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jrodmc
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7/16/2012  1:44 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Vmart wrote:Melo said the correct thing. What I don't understand is why Lin restructured the deal again after the Knicks said they would match it. I'm not sure Lin wanted to be a Knick as bad as some here think he did. Sorry guys but Lin screwed the Knicks over big time. He put a dagger into the team that gave him the shot and twisted it.

Boomer and Carton are saying the same thing right now about the restructured deal.

Exactly. Maybe Lin Lovers should take a step back, take a breath, and maybe see that Lin isn't innocent in all this? $15mill is still $15mill, it's more than Rajon Rondo for god's sakes!

One should think twice before citing Boomer and Carton as reliable sources of logic. Boomer spends his time trying to match wits with a co-host second banana who makes Mad Dog Russo sound like a brain surgeon.

This morning I wanted to rip the radio out of my car and thow it under a semi when Boomer started making hockey analogies to the Lin drama.

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7/16/2012  2:39 PM
Uptown wrote:Syniko is a clown.

No, Dolan is a clown.
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7/16/2012  2:55 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
misterearl wrote:For cap purposes, Lin’s three-year salary would count as an average for Houston, or $8.4 million a year. But the Knicks would be charged the full amount in 2014-15, costing them $50 million to $60 million in a combination of salary and luxury taxes - Howard Beck, NYT

Carmelo Anthony Has Freedom Of Speech

“It’s not up to me. It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract.”

Who says that paying a 25 game NBA rookie $60M is ridiculous?

PREACH EARL PREACH!!! 25 games only man, and this guy will be making more than proven MVPS/all stars Nash, Rondo, and Tony Parker!

You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

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7/16/2012  2:58 PM
JamesLin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
misterearl wrote:For cap purposes, Lin’s three-year salary would count as an average for Houston, or $8.4 million a year. But the Knicks would be charged the full amount in 2014-15, costing them $50 million to $60 million in a combination of salary and luxury taxes - Howard Beck, NYT

Carmelo Anthony Has Freedom Of Speech

“It’s not up to me. It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract.”

Who says that paying a 25 game NBA rookie $60M is ridiculous?

PREACH EARL PREACH!!! 25 games only man, and this guy will be making more than proven MVPS/all stars Nash, Rondo, and Tony Parker!

You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

Eh, Yao still had to produce, and did when he was healthy. You sure Lin's the next Yao and not the next Wang Zhi Zhi or Yi Jianlian? The marketing only works if there's some substance behind it, not fluff.

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7/16/2012  2:58 PM
Lebron could have made a billion coming to NYC. Lol
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7/16/2012  3:02 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
JamesLin wrote:
You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

Eh, Yao still had to produce, and did when he was healthy. You sure Lin's the next Yao and not the next Wang Zhi Zhi or Yi Jianlian? The marketing only works if there's some substance behind it, not fluff.

Lin is not the next Yao. One is American and one is Chinese property. HUGE difference. Whichever team gets Lin, will capitalize on that because Lin is NOT Chinese property.

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7/16/2012  3:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/16/2012  3:03 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Lebron could have made a billion coming to NYC. Lol

Yeah, but rumor was Delonte West slept with his mom and so LeBron doesn't want to come to the media mecca and made that The Decision on ESPN..

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7/16/2012  3:08 PM
JamesLin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
JamesLin wrote:
You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

Eh, Yao still had to produce, and did when he was healthy. You sure Lin's the next Yao and not the next Wang Zhi Zhi or Yi Jianlian? The marketing only works if there's some substance behind it, not fluff.

Lin is not the next Yao. One is American and one is Chinese property. HUGE difference. Whichever team gets Lin, will capitalize on that because Lin is NOT Chinese property.

Why do you think he signed with Houston? Because of the direct marketing pipeline to China, Yao established. Yao's popularity in China is unmatched, you don't think Harvard educated Lin isn't going to tap into that? That whole "Yao's my big brother" crap Lin said, and oh "I speak to Yao after every game". Lin's smart as hell to take advantage of this.

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7/16/2012  3:10 PM
JamesLin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
misterearl wrote:For cap purposes, Lin’s three-year salary would count as an average for Houston, or $8.4 million a year. But the Knicks would be charged the full amount in 2014-15, costing them $50 million to $60 million in a combination of salary and luxury taxes - Howard Beck, NYT

Carmelo Anthony Has Freedom Of Speech

“It’s not up to me. It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract.”

Who says that paying a 25 game NBA rookie $60M is ridiculous?

PREACH EARL PREACH!!! 25 games only man, and this guy will be making more than proven MVPS/all stars Nash, Rondo, and Tony Parker!

You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

People fail to acknowledge that Lin is a massive gold mine for any team. It's one reason why I think a max deal is probably fair for him.

If the Knicks are good for the next three years, the pressence of Lin (provided he's still starting and playing well) will make the Knicks easily 10 times what they spend on his contract.

Any money argument about not signing Lin is a crock of horse sh!t.

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7/16/2012  3:13 PM
crzymdups wrote:
JamesLin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
misterearl wrote:For cap purposes, Lin’s three-year salary would count as an average for Houston, or $8.4 million a year. But the Knicks would be charged the full amount in 2014-15, costing them $50 million to $60 million in a combination of salary and luxury taxes - Howard Beck, NYT

Carmelo Anthony Has Freedom Of Speech

“It’s not up to me. It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract.”

Who says that paying a 25 game NBA rookie $60M is ridiculous?

PREACH EARL PREACH!!! 25 games only man, and this guy will be making more than proven MVPS/all stars Nash, Rondo, and Tony Parker!

You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

People fail to acknowledge that Lin is a massive gold mine for any team. It's one reason why I think a max deal is probably fair for him.

If the Knicks are good for the next three years, the pressence of Lin (provided he's still starting and playing well) will make the Knicks easily 10 times what they spend on his contract.

Any money argument about not signing Lin is a crock of horse sh!t.

Its always about money (at least partly)

What contract (amount) would you deem too much for him?

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7/16/2012  3:16 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
JamesLin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
misterearl wrote:For cap purposes, Lin’s three-year salary would count as an average for Houston, or $8.4 million a year. But the Knicks would be charged the full amount in 2014-15, costing them $50 million to $60 million in a combination of salary and luxury taxes - Howard Beck, NYT

Carmelo Anthony Has Freedom Of Speech

“It’s not up to me. It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract.”

Who says that paying a 25 game NBA rookie $60M is ridiculous?

PREACH EARL PREACH!!! 25 games only man, and this guy will be making more than proven MVPS/all stars Nash, Rondo, and Tony Parker!

You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

People fail to acknowledge that Lin is a massive gold mine for any team. It's one reason why I think a max deal is probably fair for him.

If the Knicks are good for the next three years, the pressence of Lin (provided he's still starting and playing well) will make the Knicks easily 10 times what they spend on his contract.

Any money argument about not signing Lin is a crock of horse sh!t.

Its always about money (at least partly)

What contract (amount) would you deem too much for him?

I don't know, but $25M over three years is a fair price and will probably wind up being a bargain in terms of how much they'll make from MSG stock, advertising, apparel, international deals.

So making this a money deal is absurd.

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7/16/2012  3:17 PM
crzymdups wrote:
JamesLin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
misterearl wrote:For cap purposes, Lin’s three-year salary would count as an average for Houston, or $8.4 million a year. But the Knicks would be charged the full amount in 2014-15, costing them $50 million to $60 million in a combination of salary and luxury taxes - Howard Beck, NYT

Carmelo Anthony Has Freedom Of Speech

“It’s not up to me. It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract.”

Who says that paying a 25 game NBA rookie $60M is ridiculous?

PREACH EARL PREACH!!! 25 games only man, and this guy will be making more than proven MVPS/all stars Nash, Rondo, and Tony Parker!

You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

People fail to acknowledge that Lin is a massive gold mine for any team. It's one reason why I think a max deal is probably fair for him.

If the Knicks are good for the next three years, the pressence of Lin (provided he's still starting and playing well) will make the Knicks easily 10 times what they spend on his contract.

Any money argument about not signing Lin is a crock of horse sh!t.

Not really. It hinges on him being the real deal, not a better Yi Jianlian.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/07/how-much-is-jeremy-lin-really-worth-to-an-nba-team/259876/

But once Yao retired, the effect wore off. Between 2001 and 2011, the Rockets' net worth grew 93.6%; the average NBA team grew by 88.2%. Let's say Lin's presence were worth 5% over a decade. In that event, he'd be worth $39.5 million for the Knicks, a considerably more modest sum.

These back-of-the-envelope calculations hinge on Jeremy Lin actually being a good basketball player, which Yao indisputably was, making one of the All-NBA teams on five separate occasions. But Yao's biggest asset -- his, um, size -- also made it hard for him to stay healthy. Lin, at a more normal-human size, shouldn't have the same biomechanical issues that plagued the 7'6" Yao. So perhaps Lin will be worth more both on and off the court than Yao Ming thanks to better longevity.

Nevertheless, this is the upside scenario. Don't forget the other hyped Chinese import in the past decade, Yi Jianlian. NBA officials expected a 200-million plus viewing TV audience for his first hardcourt meeting with Yao Ming. But there was a problem: Yi wasn't very good at basketball. He never lived up to his lofty draft status, and is out of the league now -- toiling in the NBA's developmental league five years after being drafted. While Yi was with his original NBA team, the Bucks actually grew slower about half a percentage point slower than the average team.

However, Jeremy Lin is likely already a better player than Yi. The latter never had a stretch of play as sweet as Lin's during Linsanity, when the point guard looked like the best avatar of Mike D'Antoni's helter-skelter offense since Steve Nash. And it's perhaps significant that the team most ardently after Lin is the Rockets, one of the teams that cut him during his time in the wilderness. If there were anyone predisposed to thinking Lin a fluke, it would be them. (Houston's GM, Daryl Morey, is the most famous statistically-inclined general manager in the NBA currently, so it's safe to assume Lin scores highly in the Rockets' proprietary stat system).

So, is Lin worth it? The answer is: Only if he's a good player--and even then, if his financial value is fleeting, not at a premium rate. Only your play pays the bills.

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7/16/2012  3:18 PM
crzymdups wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
JamesLin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
misterearl wrote:For cap purposes, Lin’s three-year salary would count as an average for Houston, or $8.4 million a year. But the Knicks would be charged the full amount in 2014-15, costing them $50 million to $60 million in a combination of salary and luxury taxes - Howard Beck, NYT

Carmelo Anthony Has Freedom Of Speech

“It’s not up to me. It’s up to the organization to say that they want to match that ridiculous contract.”

Who says that paying a 25 game NBA rookie $60M is ridiculous?

PREACH EARL PREACH!!! 25 games only man, and this guy will be making more than proven MVPS/all stars Nash, Rondo, and Tony Parker!

You're right.. 25 games in and already financial report indicated he can make 600 million next year on marketing mostly from Asia.

People fail to acknowledge that Lin is a massive gold mine for any team. It's one reason why I think a max deal is probably fair for him.

If the Knicks are good for the next three years, the pressence of Lin (provided he's still starting and playing well) will make the Knicks easily 10 times what they spend on his contract.

Any money argument about not signing Lin is a crock of horse sh!t.

Its always about money (at least partly)

What contract (amount) would you deem too much for him?

I don't know, but $25M over three years is a fair price and will probably wind up being a bargain in terms of how much they'll make from MSG stock, advertising, apparel, international deals.

So making this a money deal is absurd.

Even if the 3rd year cost them 58 million? What if it cost them 120 million in year 3?

How are you quantifying this?

I am with you and hope they match but it ain't my money so its easy for me to say.

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7/16/2012  3:21 PM
Because he is far and stupid, just kidding with the name calling.

Seriously though, I don't think he that smart. He also said that he wants everyone to get paid or something to that effect so he didn't mean ridiculous in a bad way. Just a Melo way.

Had enough Melo?
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7/16/2012  5:05 PM

So many jealous twerps in the NBA and so many jealous teammates that screws up team chemistry. Is it too much to ask to play 82 games like brothers in arms and carry the team to victory? Melo was annoyed his spotlight dimmed a little and New York, for 2 weeks or so became Lin's team. Now Melo is annoyed that Lin is going to make millions. Melo, you don't talk about another player's salary. You make your money and he make his and let that be the end of it.


I hope Lin goes to Houston so Melo can be happy making New York his team again. I thought this was a team sport, not a one man sport.

Why is Melo opening his fat mouth?

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