gunsnewing wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Knicks fans are in for a rude awakening when they realize what Felton is without Dantoni's system inflating his numbers. We are talking about a guy who will average 11 inefficient points on 40% shooting 20 something % from 3. Who a few years ago couldn't get major minutes in Charlotte with Larry Brown as his coach because he could not run a halfcourt set and get everyone involved. He was let go by Denver in favor of Lawson and started on a team with Lamarcus Aldrige, Crawford & Camby and had an atrocious year statistically. A year that is more in line with his career averages, Basically you know what you are getting from Felton and the big 3 of melo, amare & tyson is not good enough to compete with Miami, Boston, OKC, LAL, San Antonio, Indy & Chicago

What about Lin his numbers arent inflated by Dantoni and being allowed to shoot as much as possible . Why is it Feltons numbers that are inflated but not Lins who by the way have virtually the exact numberes starting

Lin's numbers were 14 & 7 and he still shot well and took over some games. It wasn't so much Dantoni quitting but amare & melo returning to the lineup and we were 6-1 beat Indy twice. Showed he could play in the halfcourt with both Melo & Stat once the Dantoni/Melo problem was solved. Oh and did I mention Lin was only 23?

yep +1

What else does Lin need to do to prove he's a capable player? file your tax for you? babysit your twelve kids? direct an oscar winning film? Discover the cure for cancer?

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:LIn aint getting them passed Miami

Lin can get better. Felton is what he is. Kidd is not what he was.

I think the sole reason that this was not an insta-sign was how Miami exposed him.

Can he be good - really good? Maybe ... but thats all it is.

I hope they sign him but he certainly isn't the savior or what puts them over the top.

The knicks are alot better than they were last year though - even without him.

Lin had that one bad game and it came at a time when the minutes were really starting to get to him AND Miami threw it all at him. Can your really put so much weight on one game against the champions and forget the other incredible 25 games? I don't understand the logic you and others are using here.

Further, Lin is a top 3 player on this team. That means other players should be gone before him. You don't let a top 3 player walk. Something personal is going on and I don't doubt that nor that Lin is not a Woody kind of player.

I'm with crzydups and I think neither or us (nor the thousands of other fans who feel the same) mean this as a threat. We have waited for years for a team oriented guy like this and he fell into our laps, turned the team around, made it fun to watch the game again and now they might not match and are blaming it on tax? Hey, blame it on others contracts that are taxed as well, don't put it all on Lin's. Lin's contract in and of itself is bearable. Stat's isn't imo. We can probably be creative in that 3rd year with getting rid of other contracts.

If Lin is gone I will just go back to box score watching and catching the occasional game here and there. No more league pass, no more money to Dolan from me. And it's not to spite him, it's because the reason, the main reason, is that this team was fun to watch again.

As far as the Nets go, well, like a lot of guys here, I'm from Brooklyn. If I am sick of what Dolan has done to this team for years, this would be the last straw. I'm not saying I'd be a Nets fan, but I sure would give them a look as it would be too painful to watch this team after seeing Lin go and thinking what could have been.

ATrain wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I'm sorry, I know there are topics about this. But this team, this fanbase has HUNGERED for a young talent for YEARS. We have begged and pleaded and prayed for a young bluechip prospect, often at point guard. We FINALLY get one. We FINALLY have one. And we're going to let him go? Because of money? Because of Melo?

Whattt are you talking about?? Shumpert isn't going anywhere!

I agree with Crazy... this is going to be one of the STUPIDEST decisions ever made by this team. The others, getting Marbury and Melo.

Lin is a team player, makes his teammates better. He introduced the world to Steve Novak and Novak now has a 4 yr 15 million contract! What do you think he is thinking now? They beat the Lakers with nobody but Lin. When was the last time, NY ever beat LA?

UNreal!

Some say Knicks messed up by not offering him a contract 1st but, that is redundant since the Houston has shown that they are more than willing to overpay for his services. Signing Lin to that money would eliminate any possible flexibility in the future. We are already handcuffed with Amare, Melo and Tyson, matching for Lind would be like going from salary cap purgatory to hell.

His agent knew full well the ramifications of this deal, and if he didn't he's a fool. I hope Lin enjoys not even sniffing the playoffs because Houston is going nowhere.

This would be the last straw for me and while I wouldn't switch allegiances to another team, I would stop caring about the Knicks until Dolan sells.....would just follow the NBA generally until that happens.

I've been a diehard my whole life and bought season tickets even when David Lee was our best player. I want to believe so badly that this franchise is in good hands but after the Isiah era and everything else we've been through...if they don't match Lin, then I can't support this anymore....it's not fun rooting for evil.

I like Lin a lot as a basketball prospect but it's not because I'm emotionally tied to Linsanity that I feel this way (although will say going to the games at MSG was never more fun).....it's because if we let Lin walk, it will clearly show that Dolan is pissed and just making an emotional decision....letting him go for nothing is just a bad basketball decision and quite simply, it's just bad business period.

Even if they are pissed, match the damn offer and re-evaluate a year from now. All of his stats indicate that he will be worth more than $5MM next season. As Hahn and Clyde said on the broadcast yesterday, you match now and deal with it later.

crzymdups wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I'm not going to say I'd be done but my excitement level really dropped. I probably won't be investing much time on another mediocre to subpar Knicks team that will never win a ring or develop championship talent

dolan thinks we're idiots. he thinks we'll buy the false hope that kidd and camby offer.

i'd much rather be rooting for a team of:

Lin, Gallo, Shump, Tyson, Wilson, etc going into next season.

i'd much rather build a relationship to a team and to see young guys come up and learn how to win.

No, Dolan just wants you personally to move to Denver. Ovbviously, that's what all rich, self-centered capitalist pigs live and die for.

Good riddance. Take your whiney dreams of watching sub-par talent going nowhere elsewhere.

This "I hated the trade, I still hate the trade, I will always hate the trade, I will teach my kids to hate the trade" sh-t is what is truly so f---ing tired...and idiotic.

mrKnickShot wrote:LIn aint getting them passed Miami

CrushAlot wrote:Lin was an economics major and graduated from Harvard. He fired his agent and signed on with a shark. He recognized that this might be his one huge contract in the nba and he went all in. He was smart enough to sign with a new agent. Do you think he had a momentary lapse in judgement and didn't recognize that the revised version of his contract would be prohibitive because of the cap for the Knicks to sign him? Lin was looking out for Lin as he should. Switching team allegiance because the team you root for didn't want to get crushed by a contract for a guy coming off a menisus injury and a 25 game good stretch seems a bit dramatic in my opinion.

How are the Knickis crushed by any contract? you dont get it--Lin is making 5mm per the next two years--a very reasonable contract. If he plays anywhere near the level he was playing he would be drastically underpaid. On top of that other teams apparently like Lin--one team willing to give him the 14.8 for yr 3. That meaans is a very tradeable asset as well. Who can base their business 3 yeras from now in basketball? Anything can happen--that third year means nothing--its excuse and stupidity. This is about Dolan and Melo ego time