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ActionJackson
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7/15/2012  9:24 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:
ActionJackson wrote:I find it hypocritically hilarious that many of the people saying that Lin had every right to use whatever leverage necessary to get his m-o-n-e-y(aka get Pizzaid/Cash that Cheese/get his Scrilla on) were the same ones castigating Mr Melo for doing exactly the same sort of thing by wanting to get his max deal before the lockout.
Why is it that Lin is seen as an astute & savvy Harvard economics graduate & Melo as a cancerous team killing financial drain, when the objective for both athletes is exactly the same???

well said.

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BigSm00th
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7/15/2012  9:32 PM
who cares about what the players do? the team we root for is the knicks and the knicks screwed this one up. we told the guy to go negotiate a deal, gave our competitor over two weeks (free agency starts july 1, they signed him july 15) to negotiate on their own terms and got ZERO for him. we gave up second round picks and money routinely for UNRESTRICTED veteran free agents LOL. why some ppl are bummed out by this is baffling -- knicks GM/front office got caught with pants at ankles and completely spilled the drink.
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7/15/2012  9:36 PM
BigSm00th wrote:who cares about what the players do? the team we root for is the knicks and the knicks screwed this one up. we told the guy to go negotiate a deal, gave our competitor over two weeks (free agency starts july 1, they signed him july 15) to negotiate on their own terms and got ZERO for him. we gave up second round picks and money routinely for UNRESTRICTED veteran free agents LOL. why some ppl are bummed out by this is baffling -- knicks GM/front office got caught with pants at ankles and completely spilled the drink.

U truly believe Lin wasnt going to test FA. U really believe that?

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JamesLin
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7/15/2012  10:29 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
Strange that a system which supposedly allows a team to match a contract to get their RFA back, has the "poison pill" loophole which basically allows the other team to make a balloon payment contract that hurts the team who is trying to keep their player, while letting the other team get off the hook by equalizing the payments as applied toward THEIR cap.

My understanding is that as far as Houston's cap goes, you are basically paying Lin $8.3M for the 3 years. Am I incorrect about this?

This actually hurts the smaller market teams, who will not want to pay their guy because of the cap penalty. A team which has planned well with their resources and contracts can get screwed, while a team that is making the poison pill contract will not be penalized in the same way if they hit by the ballon payments.

Seems to be a player's union desired part of the contract, I would think.

Houston is #5 on NBA market I heard. Yao Ming made them some money, but China owns Yao Ming so Rockets couldn't complete profit from that. Lin is American. He owns Asian basketball market right now so Houston won't be hurting economically at all. 25 million for 3 years is a steal for Rockets consider if they market Lin right, they can probably get that back in months...

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7/15/2012  10:36 PM
JamesLin wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
Strange that a system which supposedly allows a team to match a contract to get their RFA back, has the "poison pill" loophole which basically allows the other team to make a balloon payment contract that hurts the team who is trying to keep their player, while letting the other team get off the hook by equalizing the payments as applied toward THEIR cap.

My understanding is that as far as Houston's cap goes, you are basically paying Lin $8.3M for the 3 years. Am I incorrect about this?

This actually hurts the smaller market teams, who will not want to pay their guy because of the cap penalty. A team which has planned well with their resources and contracts can get screwed, while a team that is making the poison pill contract will not be penalized in the same way if they hit by the ballon payments.

Seems to be a player's union desired part of the contract, I would think.

Houston is #5 on NBA market I heard. Yao Ming made them some money, but China owns Yao Ming so Rockets couldn't complete profit from that. Lin is American. He owns Asian basketball market right now so Houston won't be hurting economically at all. 25 million for 3 years is a steal for Rockets consider if they market Lin right, they can probably get that back in months...

Agree that he will make crazy money for his team if he lives up to Linsanity but what if he doesn't? I think that the knicks or woody might not be buying into the hype.

I think it might be somewhere in between. A decent PG. Does that make the money for his team?? That is probably what they are mulling right now.

I still think that Dolan caves for the fear that he might lose out the potential gazillions.

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7/15/2012  10:42 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Agree that he will make crazy money for his team if he lives up to Linsanity but what if he doesn't? I think that the knicks or woody might not be buying into the hype.

I think it might be somewhere in between. A decent PG. Does that make the money for his team?? That is probably what they are mulling right now.

I still think that Dolan caves for the fear that he might lose out the potential gazillions.

As long as he doesn't suck like Wang Zhizhi, he should be getting good ratings from Asian market because there's no other Asian players currently as a starter type.. but if he does end up that low, then I give props for the Knicks organization to know something nobody else knows... I don't think Jeremy will suck. I just think he's above average and is definitely someone's golden goose, whether he becomes a superstar or not.

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7/15/2012  10:44 PM
JamesLin wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Agree that he will make crazy money for his team if he lives up to Linsanity but what if he doesn't? I think that the knicks or woody might not be buying into the hype.

I think it might be somewhere in between. A decent PG. Does that make the money for his team?? That is probably what they are mulling right now.

I still think that Dolan caves for the fear that he might lose out the potential gazillions.

As long as he doesn't suck like Wang Zhizhi, he should be getting good ratings from Asian market because there's no other Asian players currently as a starter type.. but if he does end up that low, then I give props for the Knicks organization to know something nobody else knows... I don't think Jeremy will suck. I just think he's above average and is definitely someone's golden goose, whether he becomes a superstar or not.

Agreed.

I hope they match and think they will. Dolan has never shown to be disciplined enough to walk a way from a hand.

aww, lin misses nyk already...

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