gunsnewing wrote:

VCoug wrote:

blkexec wrote:If we can win a championship without Lin, why does it matter if we match?

To be honest, Lin is a scoring PG....Thats what he does best. Passing only leads to more turnovers for him.

Lin is the best young pg for a Mike Dantoni system with no superstars.

With Woodsons system, why pay somebody 15 mil just to pass the ball to Melo on every possession.

I like what our new GM is doing. Surrounding Melo and Stat with old school defensive players = CHAMPIONSHIPS.....

Felton is a scoring PG as well. And, he was 34th in the league last year in assist/turnover ratio.

And Felton is what he is. Lin has more way more potential

Yeah, I know. I want Lin back.

blkexec wrote:

nixluva wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i mean we are all figuring here that there's no way that dolan would tell grunwald to let lin walk because of the whole international $$$ thing. i would be shocked beyond belief if we don't match on lin. absolutely shocked if we don't.

Just think about it. Lin will cost nearly $57 million in year 3!!!! His $14.8 mil plus the $42 mil in Luxury Tax. There's no way that they can do a deal like that. It's not practical even with Lin being a money maker. They don't even know how long that will last. Suppose he has a bad year and all the excitement and Asian Corporate Sponsors dry up? I think this is the end of Lin in NY.

Then you have the idea that Woody wasn't exactly in love with Lin to begin with. I think he wants to play slow it down ball and Lin makes him nervous.

Even though we are the minority, I agree....

I think the smart move is to match Lin and see what happens in year one or two. If the jersey sales aren't enough of a draw to keep Lin, then you have the pg depth to trade Lin to a smaller market team looking to increase ticket and jersey sales.

But everybody keeps focusing on Felton and how he played in Mikes system.

Unfortunately, offense doesn't win championships. We just turned this Knick team into a strong balance of offense, defense and vet / championship experience team. With the most important positions in basketball sold up.....PG / CENTER

LIN WHO?

Unless we are getting Chris Paul even though we'd have no assets other than Lin to offer. No lottery picks etc. By then Kidd & Felton will be older and it would be wise to hold onto Lin who would still be in his mid 20s.

VCoug wrote:

nixluva wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS

Knicks have acquired Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries, Kurt Thomas and 2016 2nd-round pick, source confirms.

sounding official.

IF THEY SIGN LIN - this is a GREAT DEAL.

Lin / Felton
Kidd / JR / (Shump, JR moves to backup SF when Shump returns)
Melo / Novak
Amar'e / Kurt
Tyson / Camby

Love that 10 guy rotation with Shump taking his time.

i'm praying this is the plan.

if not, i may need to take a looong walk.

yup me too

IMO the party is over in terms of Lin and all that exciting stuff. Now it's about grind it out defensive basketball and that Detroit Pistons Ball Control style. It's what Woody is most comfortable with and if you have Melo what else can you do, cuz he doesn't fit an Uptempo, Motion and Ball movement offense. This was inevitable once they signed Melo and then Woody. So long as it leads to a title that's all that matters.

Our plan is to play grind-it-out, defensive basketball with Amare and Melo? We're ****ed.

NAW! With Tyson, Camby and KT you have a lot of tough defenders on the floor. This team is setup to be a top defensive team IMO. There will be a lot of block parties this year for sure.

DECIDING TO MATCH LIN's OFFER and see what kind of trade offers are out there if they match....
I think this would be the most cost efficient way, with what Felton/Kidd are earning, they are very cost efficient, while a trade with Lin could bring back assets.

Felton + Kidd earn barely about 7m combined a season, even if they throw in Lin, is an average of 15m a year for 3 PGs

gunsnewing wrote:

blkexec wrote:Keep in mind, if it wasn't for Mike Dantoni, there will be no Linsanity.

Lin would be playing overseas somewhere....

This is like poker....."ALL IN"

If it wasn't for Dantoni Linsanity would've started sooner and we wouldn't have played the Heat in the 1st round

what coach in their right mind would start Lin sooner than D'Antoni did? get a grip/

blkexec wrote:Keep in mind, if it wasn't for Mike Dantoni, there will be no Linsanity.

Lin would be playing overseas somewhere....

This is like poker....."ALL IN"

Huh? What? MDA almost cost us Linsanity

RonRon wrote:

nixluva wrote:I don't think they're keeping Lin! I think this is a sign that they are going to let Lin go and Start Kidd with Felton/Pablo off the bench!!!

matching and trading him just to spite HOUSTON is what I think they should do.

Can't afford it. I don't think the new trade salaries come off the cap like Lin's bird rights contract would.

martin wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:KnicksTweets ‏@KnicksTweets
RT @MMillsTKB: Knicks will get rights to Jon Diebler as well, source says. He holds the Ohio State (cont)

PURE SHOOTER

yea I def meant to post that part as well!

Will KT stay or retire?

JamesKPolk wrote:Are there people really advocating crappy fat Felton over Lin?

Do what I do and Ignore the lunacy. Focus on Lin, Kidd & Felton