gunsnewing wrote:Yes but its not the norm and if Lebron doesnt choke they dont win

I respect you guns, but the Mavs earned their chip, Lebron choking aside. Remember the Mavs were the 3 seed and had to beat the 2 time defending NBA Champion Lakers, the upstart OKC Thunder, then the heavily favored Miami Heat who had homecourt advantage. Believe the Heat had a 2-1 Finals lead, you have to give the Mavericks Championship run credit.

Deron >> Lin
Johnson > Fields
Green < Melo
Wallace = Stat
Howard >> Chandler

Deron with talent was always valued as a top 1/2 point guard in the league and is much better than Lin. Howard is much better than Chandler, the magic are not a playoff team if you switch them, he's a better offensive and defensive player, not a shot at chandler (Chanlder, Felton, Jackson, Wallace was barely a .500 team), but the guy wasn't even locked in and his numbers are scary, top 5 player in the NBA. Crash and Stat are very similiar at this point in their career, but perhaps you can give it to Amare depending on how he comes back. The only edge we have that is considerable is Melo, and it's a big edge if he decides not to be a ball stopping selfish player.

And comparing to football is about as dumb as it gets. The Giants god bless them were lucky the Eagles decided to give Steve Smith 3MM while not giving DeSean Jackson a raise at 800k a year had they taken care of the little **** the Giants wouldn't have been a playoff team same goes if Romo makes one throw. The NFL is that close the NBA is not.

We had enough trouble beating the Nets with no Brook Lopez last year. Now you think we are going to beat them with D12, Johnson on the court?

Look for the panic trade of Fields/Shump or Lin/Douglas for Nash and Camby to follow.

Is that too much to ask???

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I don't wean to see a panic move, meant to pacify the less intelligent among Knicks fans. I want to see a SOLID move that keeps us BETTER then the godforsaken Nets and puts us in a position to BEAT the abominable Miami Heat.

Is that too much to ask???

helloharv wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I gotta admit it would be a sad day if the Nets gets done in their first year in New York what we've been trying to do for over 40yrs in the center of the universe midtown manhattan. A place that should be drawing the best talent in the world. Shame our owner is Jimmy Dolan. Frickin mindboggling

I think the Nets thriving is great news. It would force Dolan to actually build a legit team or get rid of the Knicks. It also gives us another NY option (dare I say it!)!

I honestly don't understand this post. What more do you want him to do ...... What realistic moves would you rather have seen the last two years??? Also talk about changing teams is pathetic

Note that I was distinguishing impulsive starphucking from intelligent star-acquiring when I used the phrase starphucking in that post.

ChuckBuck wrote:

MS wrote:Throwing guys on paper. You mean like we did with Chandler, Melo, Amare and no point guard. There was no ****ing plan there. Pick up some waiver wire throw away and get lucky for 18 games??? Everyone wants to give Glen all this credit for his great pickups, but the Knicks got lucky with JR Smith, foolishly used their amnesty and we are still waiting for Melo to come in with a good attitude and in shape.

The Nets have an elite defensive player in Wallace, a top 3 point guard that can shoot the three and dish the rock the best defensive player in the game that is at the top of the league in rebounding and shot blocking and albeit the worst contract in sports, but Johnson can still shoot the rock and handle the ball. That seems like a number of players that will actually fit together and be better than the knicks.

Fortunately games aren't won in paper, so annointing the Nets as championship challengers is extremely premature. Philadelphia Eagles of last year anyone? Just because you won the offseason championship means ****. Didn't the NY Giants win the whole thing barely getting into the postseason? Didn't the LA Kings win the Stanley Cup as an 8th seed? Let's not drool over the Nets even if they do get Dwight, they still have to make it work out on the court.

The NBA is a completly different animal then the other leagues. Most talent wins.The Nets might not win in year 1 but by year 2 thety will be battling the Heat for the ECF championship

gunsnewing wrote:Marc stein done deal Deron gets 5yrs 100mil wow 190m backcourt. Better hope they get Howard although im starting to doubt it. Feeling a lot better than I did this morn

If they dont get Howard they will be a good team but they could still beat them. Howard would make them much better then the Knicks

CrushAlot wrote:Billy King is making a mockery of the new cba. If he gets Howard you could make the argument that he outdid Riley.

King isn't really doing much. Howard going to the Nets has way more to do with Howard then anything Knings pulls off. Williams was not leaving 24 mil on the table to go to Dallas, a tam thata losing players anyway, and the Nets were one of a select few that would bite on the horrendous salary of Johnson's. Nets lucked into ATL getting a new GM who wanted to clear the cap...