gunsnewing wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

knickscity wrote:

blackisblack wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I don't think Phil Jackson is playing hard to get. I believe he really doesn't want to coach Knicks. It's not like he needs more rings or more money. He's already rich and retired. And when you are in his position, you can say what you want and not give a damn.

Whereas I think he wanted to coach the Knicks but would never be given the type of control he had in LA, by baby Huey and isiah. He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently. Phil is aware of how that ended in NY. And he understood he would have the same fate because the inmates in charge of the asylum are going to throw out anyone their precious little diva bitch doesn't agree with.

Pretty much nailed it. Phil knows there is a reason why George Karl is still talking about melo to this day and MDA resigned. Its unfortunate because even though im not a Jackspn fan obviously he would bring championship credibility even though i like Woodson. But looks like at best we will get to the second round i guess

I agree with both of you. I am not a Phil Jackson fan either but I have to agree with him. Superstars have become so big-headed that they can cause their coaches fired. This has happened a lot in recent years. What happened to the good old days when the coach is respected and listened to?

You mean the days when Magic and Jordan got their coaches fired?

The classic argument. Magic and Jordan so it must be the right thing to do. This league is a joke and fans who support this type of rationale are the reason why.

Didn't D'Antoni resign and receive his salary for the remainder of his contract?

WOW!!! I'm rarely shocked but this is something extraordinary. Did you just TOTALLY miss the point of the conversation or what???

LOL. You can't have a conversation with someone so blinded by hate. And he has obviously decided to carry the MDA baggage for the rest of his life, hope it serves him well. Seems like a bitter old man. It's sad, because he used to be a good poster. I will continue to keep him on ignore, wish it would work on "quoted" posts as well.

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

sure ignore the fact that the entire team was injured but Melo

cant keep making excuses for everybody. this is not about melo its about amare as well. next Year its time to come in focused in shape and have the best year of their careers

we get it the following people are to blame:
melo
woodson
amare
dolan
eddy curry
jerome james
bill bradley

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

knickscity wrote:

blackisblack wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I don't think Phil Jackson is playing hard to get. I believe he really doesn't want to coach Knicks. It's not like he needs more rings or more money. He's already rich and retired. And when you are in his position, you can say what you want and not give a damn.

Whereas I think he wanted to coach the Knicks but would never be given the type of control he had in LA, by baby Huey and isiah. He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently. Phil is aware of how that ended in NY. And he understood he would have the same fate because the inmates in charge of the asylum are going to throw out anyone their precious little diva bitch doesn't agree with.

Pretty much nailed it. Phil knows there is a reason why George Karl is still talking about melo to this day and MDA resigned. Its unfortunate because even though im not a Jackspn fan obviously he would bring championship credibility even though i like Woodson. But looks like at best we will get to the second round i guess

I agree with both of you. I am not a Phil Jackson fan either but I have to agree with him. Superstars have become so big-headed that they can cause their coaches fired. This has happened a lot in recent years. What happened to the good old days when the coach is respected and listened to?

You mean the days when Magic and Jordan got their coaches fired?

The classic argument. Magic and Jordan so it must be the right thing to do. This league is a joke and fans who support this type of rationale are the reason why.

Didn't D'Antoni resign and receive his salary for the remainder of his contract?

WOW!!! I'm rarely shocked but this is something extraordinary. Did you just TOTALLY miss the point of the conversation or what???

LOL. You can't have a conversation with someone so blinded by hate. And he has obviously decided to carry the MDA baggage for the rest of his life, hope it serves him well. Seems like a bitter old man. It's sad, because he used to be a good poster. I will continue to keep him on ignore, wish it would work on "quoted" posts as well.

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

IrishKnickFan wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

knickscity wrote:

blackisblack wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I don't think Phil Jackson is playing hard to get. I believe he really doesn't want to coach Knicks. It's not like he needs more rings or more money. He's already rich and retired. And when you are in his position, you can say what you want and not give a damn.

Whereas I think he wanted to coach the Knicks but would never be given the type of control he had in LA, by baby Huey and isiah. He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently. Phil is aware of how that ended in NY. And he understood he would have the same fate because the inmates in charge of the asylum are going to throw out anyone their precious little diva bitch doesn't agree with.

Pretty much nailed it. Phil knows there is a reason why George Karl is still talking about melo to this day and MDA resigned. Its unfortunate because even though im not a Jackspn fan obviously he would bring championship credibility even though i like Woodson. But looks like at best we will get to the second round i guess

I agree with both of you. I am not a Phil Jackson fan either but I have to agree with him. Superstars have become so big-headed that they can cause their coaches fired. This has happened a lot in recent years. What happened to the good old days when the coach is respected and listened to?

You mean the days when Magic and Jordan got their coaches fired?

The classic argument. Magic and Jordan so it must be the right thing to do. This league is a joke and fans who support this type of rationale are the reason why.

Didn't D'Antoni resign and receive his salary for the remainder of his contract?

WOW!!! I'm rarely shocked but this is something extraordinary. Did you just TOTALLY miss the point of the conversation or what???

LOL. You can't have a conversation with someone so blinded by hate. And he has obviously decided to carry the MDA baggage for the rest of his life, hope it serves him well. Seems like a bitter old man. It's sad, because he used to be a good poster. I will continue to keep him on ignore, wish it would work on "quoted" posts as well.

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

sure ignore the fact that the entire team was injured but Melo

cant keep making excuses for everybody. this is not about melo its about amare as well. next Year its time to come in focused in shape and have the best year of their careers

we get it the following people are to blame:
melo
woodson
amare
dolan
eddy curry
jerome james
bill bradley

They are our stars for godsakes they are being paid over 20 million I mean i dont get why you feel you have to protect them. Im as big of knicks fan as anybody here and i wnat to win. I am rooting for melo and amare to lead us i mean if i didnt care i wouldnt even talk about it

Amare lucks out and rarely gets any of the blame cos he is MDA's boy

IrishKnickFan wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

knickscity wrote:

blackisblack wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I don't think Phil Jackson is playing hard to get. I believe he really doesn't want to coach Knicks. It's not like he needs more rings or more money. He's already rich and retired. And when you are in his position, you can say what you want and not give a damn.

Whereas I think he wanted to coach the Knicks but would never be given the type of control he had in LA, by baby Huey and isiah. He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently. Phil is aware of how that ended in NY. And he understood he would have the same fate because the inmates in charge of the asylum are going to throw out anyone their precious little diva bitch doesn't agree with.

Pretty much nailed it. Phil knows there is a reason why George Karl is still talking about melo to this day and MDA resigned. Its unfortunate because even though im not a Jackspn fan obviously he would bring championship credibility even though i like Woodson. But looks like at best we will get to the second round i guess

I agree with both of you. I am not a Phil Jackson fan either but I have to agree with him. Superstars have become so big-headed that they can cause their coaches fired. This has happened a lot in recent years. What happened to the good old days when the coach is respected and listened to?

You mean the days when Magic and Jordan got their coaches fired?

The classic argument. Magic and Jordan so it must be the right thing to do. This league is a joke and fans who support this type of rationale are the reason why.

Didn't D'Antoni resign and receive his salary for the remainder of his contract?

WOW!!! I'm rarely shocked but this is something extraordinary. Did you just TOTALLY miss the point of the conversation or what???

LOL. You can't have a conversation with someone so blinded by hate. And he has obviously decided to carry the MDA baggage for the rest of his life, hope it serves him well. Seems like a bitter old man. It's sad, because he used to be a good poster. I will continue to keep him on ignore, wish it would work on "quoted" posts as well.

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

I am not sure what you are saying. I was against the Melo trade and outspoken about it. I do think the Knicks played better with Woodson and I don't think that is debatable. Did they win a playoff with D'Antoni? Would you be happier if he stayed and Houston got a lottery pick and the Knicks didn't make the playoffs?

Crush read carefully. I like Woodson and wanted him to be the coach even when MDA was still here. Did i ever say i wanted MDA? No I didnt i said I WANTED Woodson to be our coach and i think he did a great job. Stop making stuff up

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

knickscity wrote:

blackisblack wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I don't think Phil Jackson is playing hard to get. I believe he really doesn't want to coach Knicks. It's not like he needs more rings or more money. He's already rich and retired. And when you are in his position, you can say what you want and not give a damn.

Whereas I think he wanted to coach the Knicks but would never be given the type of control he had in LA, by baby Huey and isiah. He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently. Phil is aware of how that ended in NY. And he understood he would have the same fate because the inmates in charge of the asylum are going to throw out anyone their precious little diva bitch doesn't agree with.

Pretty much nailed it. Phil knows there is a reason why George Karl is still talking about melo to this day and MDA resigned. Its unfortunate because even though im not a Jackspn fan obviously he would bring championship credibility even though i like Woodson. But looks like at best we will get to the second round i guess

I agree with both of you. I am not a Phil Jackson fan either but I have to agree with him. Superstars have become so big-headed that they can cause their coaches fired. This has happened a lot in recent years. What happened to the good old days when the coach is respected and listened to?

You mean the days when Magic and Jordan got their coaches fired?

The classic argument. Magic and Jordan so it must be the right thing to do. This league is a joke and fans who support this type of rationale are the reason why.

Didn't D'Antoni resign and receive his salary for the remainder of his contract?

WOW!!! I'm rarely shocked but this is something extraordinary. Did you just TOTALLY miss the point of the conversation or what???

LOL. You can't have a conversation with someone so blinded by hate. And he has obviously decided to carry the MDA baggage for the rest of his life, hope it serves him well. Seems like a bitter old man. It's sad, because he used to be a good poster. I will continue to keep him on ignore, wish it would work on "quoted" posts as well.

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

I am not sure what you are saying. I was against the Melo trade and outspoken about it. I do think the Knicks played better with Woodson and I don't think that is debatable. Did they win a playoff with D'Antoni? Would you be happier if he stayed and Houston got a lottery pick and the Knicks didn't make the playoffs?

Crush read carefully. I like Woodson and wanted him to be the coach even when MDA was still here. Did i ever say i wanted MDA? No I didnt i said I WANTED Woodson to be our coach and i think he did a great job. Stop making stuff up

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

I guess this confused me a bit. If someone is going to post that a previous coach tried to get Melo to pass and imply that Melo got that coach fired I am going to respond. The coach that resigned was losing at an incredible rate with a talented roster and had the Knicks headed for another non playoff season.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

knickscity wrote:

blackisblack wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I don't think Phil Jackson is playing hard to get. I believe he really doesn't want to coach Knicks. It's not like he needs more rings or more money. He's already rich and retired. And when you are in his position, you can say what you want and not give a damn.

Whereas I think he wanted to coach the Knicks but would never be given the type of control he had in LA, by baby Huey and isiah. He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently. Phil is aware of how that ended in NY. And he understood he would have the same fate because the inmates in charge of the asylum are going to throw out anyone their precious little diva bitch doesn't agree with.

Pretty much nailed it. Phil knows there is a reason why George Karl is still talking about melo to this day and MDA resigned. Its unfortunate because even though im not a Jackspn fan obviously he would bring championship credibility even though i like Woodson. But looks like at best we will get to the second round i guess

I agree with both of you. I am not a Phil Jackson fan either but I have to agree with him. Superstars have become so big-headed that they can cause their coaches fired. This has happened a lot in recent years. What happened to the good old days when the coach is respected and listened to?

You mean the days when Magic and Jordan got their coaches fired?

The classic argument. Magic and Jordan so it must be the right thing to do. This league is a joke and fans who support this type of rationale are the reason why.

Didn't D'Antoni resign and receive his salary for the remainder of his contract?

WOW!!! I'm rarely shocked but this is something extraordinary. Did you just TOTALLY miss the point of the conversation or what???

LOL. You can't have a conversation with someone so blinded by hate. And he has obviously decided to carry the MDA baggage for the rest of his life, hope it serves him well. Seems like a bitter old man. It's sad, because he used to be a good poster. I will continue to keep him on ignore, wish it would work on "quoted" posts as well.

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

I am not sure what you are saying. I was against the Melo trade and outspoken about it. I do think the Knicks played better with Woodson and I don't think that is debatable. Did they win a playoff with D'Antoni? Would you be happier if he stayed and Houston got a lottery pick and the Knicks didn't make the playoffs?

Crush read carefully. I like Woodson and wanted him to be the coach even when MDA was still here. Did i ever say i wanted MDA? No I didnt i said I WANTED Woodson to be our coach and i think he did a great job. Stop making stuff up

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

I guess this confused me a bit. If someone is going to post that a previous coach tried to get Melo to pass and imply that Melo got that coach fired I am going to respond. The coach that resigned was losing at an incredible rate with a talented roster and had the Knicks headed for another non playoff season.

i wasnt talking about woodson i was talking about Melo. In fact i wanted Woodson since last summer,. Crush dont claim things that arent true it aint right and is disrespectful

He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

knickscity wrote:

blackisblack wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I don't think Phil Jackson is playing hard to get. I believe he really doesn't want to coach Knicks. It's not like he needs more rings or more money. He's already rich and retired. And when you are in his position, you can say what you want and not give a damn.

Whereas I think he wanted to coach the Knicks but would never be given the type of control he had in LA, by baby Huey and isiah. He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently. Phil is aware of how that ended in NY. And he understood he would have the same fate because the inmates in charge of the asylum are going to throw out anyone their precious little diva bitch doesn't agree with.

Pretty much nailed it. Phil knows there is a reason why George Karl is still talking about melo to this day and MDA resigned. Its unfortunate because even though im not a Jackspn fan obviously he would bring championship credibility even though i like Woodson. But looks like at best we will get to the second round i guess

I agree with both of you. I am not a Phil Jackson fan either but I have to agree with him. Superstars have become so big-headed that they can cause their coaches fired. This has happened a lot in recent years. What happened to the good old days when the coach is respected and listened to?

You mean the days when Magic and Jordan got their coaches fired?

The classic argument. Magic and Jordan so it must be the right thing to do. This league is a joke and fans who support this type of rationale are the reason why.

Didn't D'Antoni resign and receive his salary for the remainder of his contract?

WOW!!! I'm rarely shocked but this is something extraordinary. Did you just TOTALLY miss the point of the conversation or what???

LOL. You can't have a conversation with someone so blinded by hate. And he has obviously decided to carry the MDA baggage for the rest of his life, hope it serves him well. Seems like a bitter old man. It's sad, because he used to be a good poster. I will continue to keep him on ignore, wish it would work on "quoted" posts as well.

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

I am not sure what you are saying. I was against the Melo trade and outspoken about it. I do think the Knicks played better with Woodson and I don't think that is debatable. Did they win a playoff with D'Antoni? Would you be happier if he stayed and Houston got a lottery pick and the Knicks didn't make the playoffs?

Crush read carefully. I like Woodson and wanted him to be the coach even when MDA was still here. Did i ever say i wanted MDA? No I didnt i said I WANTED Woodson to be our coach and i think he did a great job. Stop making stuff up

Yeah i mean MDA is gone he has to let it go. Also he claims we are so much better yet we won one damn playoff agme and also gave away the cavs game that could have gotten us a betetr seed. Wow major improvement lol

I guess this confused me a bit. If someone is going to post that a previous coach tried to get Melo to pass and imply that Melo got that coach fired I am going to respond. The coach that resigned was losing at an incredible rate with a talented roster and had the Knicks headed for another non playoff season.

i wasnt talking about woodson i was talking about Melo. In fact i wanted Woodson since last summer,. Crush dont claim things that arent true it aint right and is disrespectful

I think you or I are missing something but I think when you tell someone to move on and end the post with lol you are being disrespectful. I was refering to this:

He said clearly that the only way to make this work is for Melo to play team oriented basketball and NOT rely on isolation plays. He also mentioned Melo needs to PASS the ball more. Two things another coach tried to make Melo do pretty recently.

when I said D'Antoni was brought into the discussion. What are you referring to that I referred to that wasn't true? I quoted your post.

Crush I think we are gonna win this year I have a feeling. I think if the bird rights case goes in our favor it will be huge.

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Woodson is not a good coach yet Dantoni is?

Yes that's right. MDA has been to the WCF's 2x. Woody has been swept in 2 straight playoffs and this year just squeezed out one win. He has not had a better career than MDA even with the losing MDA had added to his career here in NY. MDA took a team with Boris Diaw as the Center to the WCF's. Just imagine how hard that is to do given the size in the West back then.

Look Woody will have his shot to do well but he will have something MDA never really had for an entire season, a good PG and a star that is actually trying his hardest to win. Melo didn't give his all for MDA and no coach can win if his best player isn't leading and buying in.

Swishfm3 wrote:He sounds butt hurt that he WASN'T contacted..lol.

That was my first thought once I saw the story on ESPN and I'm surprised that no story took this angle.

According to everything we've heard the Knicks never contacted him and so a week or so later he starts talking about how he wouldn't have considered the position anyway. Even if he was asked in the context of whether they contacted him or if he was interested, he could have just said no instead of attacking the team and its players.

This may be off the cuff, but it certainly comes off more like he's annoyed on some level. You know who didn't initially fit together well and then came apart again? Shaq and Kobe...just saying. His coaching could potentially make it work and have them fit. But it's clear since the Bulls that he's not as interested in putting in the work. He got lucky with those last two rings in LA, he and Kobe.