Bonn1997 wrote:KnicksFE wrote:CrushAlot wrote:KnicksFE wrote:KnicksFE wrote:martin wrote:KnicksFE wrote:nixluva wrote:During Halftime of the Knicks/Heat Series the hosts Magic, Wilbon, Barry & Brussard all stated that they didn't like the way the Heat were playing even tho they were beating our injury riddled Knicks team. The Heat were able to take advantage of the Knicks who were having injury and chemistry problems and A coach that was struggling to find something that worked with what was left. The Heat weren't really playing that great but rather the Knicks were playing that bad. The Knicks struggled to hit shots or even run consistent offense. You can't beat the Heat with one guy. The Pacers are sharing the ball and getting major contributions from everywhere. The Pacers have size, Depth and they've dug in on D. Right now the Pacers are the better team. Wade and Lebron will have to step up several levels to make up for their weaker supporting cast. If Wade and Lebron both go off, then can beat the Pacers, but they have to do it 3 more times and i'm not sure they can. Especially since like the Knicks they have to change how they were playing all year with Bosh out.
Honestly I respect what Woodson did for the Knicks after MDA, but this exactly why I would prefer different coach for our team next season, the Indiana Pacers are moving the ball and exploiting their mismatches (size) against the Heat, they are not forcing the offense through Danny Granger arguably their best scorer the last few years. Otherwise, I don’t think they would be leading in the series.
On the other hand, the Knicks forced the offence waaaaay too much through Melo, even though he was going against MVP Lebron James, and honestly I don’t think we had the mismatch on our favor at the SF position at all. They should have shared the ball more.
And again, while I was not expecting the Knicks to win the series against the Heat, we lost four games by 18 points averages, way too poorly for whatever remaining talent the Knicks had, they should have player better. NO EXCUSES.
I agree that the Knicks forced the offense through Melo way too much, but really, what else was there?
You can't play through Chandler. Amare was down with hand. Shump's knee down. No PG who could break down defense. Baron down. Nothing else left to do.
Didn't the Knicks play the same way in game one, when we had Chandler, Amare, and Shumper for most of the game?
The botton line is tha the Knicks were losing each game by 18, Woodson should have tried something, anything, his only game plan consisted on giving the ball to Melo while and every one eslse just stad around.
After the first couple of blowout, I would assume anything,from starting JR along side Novak, to playing TD more on Chalmers, again anything.
At least I would say today that Woodson tried everything posible as supose to not changing anything at all while we were getting embarrase on national TV.
Woodson started Smith in the second half of game 4 and 5. Douglas was so maligned after the year he had that it is hard to blame Woodson for not playing him more. Injuries forced his hand and Douglas did ok but the Knicks were just too depleted to overcome a foe like the Heat. Losing Shump hurt a lot. There aren't many guys that can contain Dwayne Wade.
I wasn't asking for the outcome to be any different even if we were fully healthy, I just never understood why we were getting blown out in every lost, when we still had TC (DPOY)and Melo on this team. I was expecting a better efford.
Exactly; we had our max contract big 3 and our losses were by 10 to 35 points.
You've gotta have a plan for how you're guys will be effective together. Neither Melo, STAT or Tyson really pass to each other enough. They should be able to work off each other more than we saw. Not enough Melo/STAT two man game or Melo/Tyson either.
I also disagree that we didn't have enough other players to go to. It's not about whether they can create their own shots. It's about the amount of off the ball movement and ball movement you have. There was almost no off the ball movement as the team just stood around and went into ISO. That just makes it easier for a team like the Heat to defend us. I've said it over and over and even showed it, but there just doesn't seem to be an understanding of what I mean.
There wasn't enough of this kind of movement. Look at the play and 3 guys are in motion. Tyson, Novak and JR! This is forcing the defense to chase the play and it leaves single coverage on Melo and ends with a screen for Novak. If the defense collapses Bibby has a shot or a pass to Melo for his post up. It's not perfect, but it's better than forcing it into Melo while every other Knicks stands around and watches.
here's another set where everyone is actually moving and we haven't overplayed our hand yet with Melo in the post so the D can just park around him.
We needed more plays where guys were moving and cutting and not trying to go one on one every time like JR was doing. He needed to go with more plays where he got help like this.
In a nutshell we needed more teamwork to help make things easier for each other. That's what we've seen from the Pacers. They're actually looking for each other. As soon as the defense reacts they dump it off for a teammate who is open, rather than force it over 2 heat defenders.
