My choice for coach would be Lionel Hollins - same type of personnel in Memphis and i'll take being as good as the Griz are. That would make us 2nd or 3rd best team in the East. If not Hollins then Sloan but I'm guessing that's a long shot.

Phil Jackson would work out just as bad as Larry Brown. We do not have one person who can understand the triangle let alone 5 guys who can run it.

gunsnewing wrote:

Clean wrote:I like what Woody did during the regular season. My problem with him is he forgets to run plays for other people besides Melo. He is not good making adjustments in the playoffs. We made the same mistakes every game with the exception being that melo got the ball on the wing a little more. The team had no idea how to use a damn zone! The one thing that can be kryptonite to the heat and we could not use it. Don't get me wrong, if a clear upgrade is not available I would love to have woody back. I just hope woody grows as a coach.

Run plays for who Novak? Who can even get open after a screen because he is not quick enough against a lightning quick miami defense? Lin's penetration will help a little.

Run plays for Landry Fields?

Smith had a ton of plays run for him and he shot 3-15!

So who exactly are we running plays for other than Melo, Amare, Smith and Chandler on occasion???

Besides, this is not football where plays are scripted in precise detail.

Basketball "plays" require a lead guard who can improvise on the fly.

We could use one.

misterearl wrote:Running Plays

gunsnewing wrote:

Clean wrote:I like what Woody did during the regular season. My problem with him is he forgets to run plays for other people besides Melo. He is not good making adjustments in the playoffs. We made the same mistakes every game with the exception being that melo got the ball on the wing a little more. The team had no idea how to use a damn zone! The one thing that can be kryptonite to the heat and we could not use it. Don't get me wrong, if a clear upgrade is not available I would love to have woody back. I just hope woody grows as a coach.

Run plays for who Novak? Who can even get open after a screen because he is not quick enough against a lightning quick miami defense? Lin's penetration will help a little.

Run plays for Landry Fields?

Smith had a ton of plays run for him and he shot 3-15!

So who exactly are we running plays for other than Melo, Amare, Smith and Chandler on occasion???

Besides, this is not football where plays are scripted in precise detail.

Basketball "plays" require a lead guard who can improvise on the fly.

We could use one.

We have one named Lin that was unfortunately injured. We had another that can at least drive a bit and play great d named Shumpert and he blew his knee out the first game of his series. Obviously, all these injuries are Woodson's fault and therefore he is a horrible coach.....

ideally i'd give woody 2yrs but i've a feeling he wants 4.

AnubisADL wrote:How is Jackson going to change anything?

- Is he going to heal Amare's back
- Is he going to give Chandler or Amare a post game?
- Is he going to make Fields good?
- Is he going to make Bibby young?

Pretty sure Jackson will be a waste of money like D'Antoni with this current team.

Seriously Phil Jackson doesnt get the Knicks past the 1st round either

nixluva wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Vmart wrote:

ATrain wrote:I agree 10,000%. He should be welcomed to continue as an assistant though

gunsnewing wrote:Amazing when was the last time a Knicks coach had a stretch of 18-6 against tough teams oh wait JVG

I wouldn't mind JVG if he'd like to come back.

That 18-6 was awesome but the loss to Cleveland let me know everything I needed to know.

1 really bad game? How about the losses to the 2 losses each to the Raptors & bucks? Losses to the bobcats, hornets, wizards, cavs, suns, rockets, nuggets, warriors, Nets? All under Dantoni that helped bury the team and cement a 7th seed 1st round matchup with the best team in the NBA?

I can bet that if Melo had played worth a damn all year that it would've made a huge difference in those games. The team got back to .500 and Melo promptly destroyed the momentum they had when he came back!! KILLED IT DEAD!!! 2-8 when Melo came back. Then Melo decides to play hard and the team goes on a win streak, but the offense devolves into ISO Melo and we see that we have a real problem going forward.

If the coach don't coach worth a DAMN and he don't talk to da playas den da playas don't look like day give a damn cause day don't know what hell do give a damn about

Question:

What was the schedule before he came back and what was the schedule after huh? What? I didn't hear you! Can you say it louder?

Go ahead, run away - run Nixluva run!

WTF are you talking about? Did Melo play like ISH when he came back or not??? The teams defense which had been stellar thru Linsanity and much of the year dropped from only allowing 93ppg during Linsanity to 110 when Melo came back, then when Melo decided to actually give a Max Effort the day MDA resigned the team when back to only allowing 91ppg during Woody's coaching tenure. This myth that the team only started playing D after MDA left is utter NONSENSE!!! Stick that in your pipe.

Under MDA when things were going well they defended at a high level and everyone was involved offensively. That is how this team needs to work in the future. If they hire Woody he MUST figure out a way to make sure they play team ball most of the time and rely less on Melo Ball except when it makes sense for him to take the lead.

okaaaaaaaaay let me ask this sloweeeeeer . What was the

phuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckin schedule during LINSANITY and what

was the phuckin schedule when

Melo came back?

RUN NIXLUVA RUN!

We all know that we lost Lin, but that doesn't mean you can't run better sets and have motion and ball movement to create better shots for everyone. The entire reason for running the spread offense with off the ball motion is to keep the middle open for attacking the basket!!!
You don't want the opposing D to be able to setup and stay in position. You want them to have to move and shift so that you can attack them for high % shots. You can't do that with strict Melo Ball. He's not some quick guard that can breakdown a defense by himself. So he ended up taking a lot of perimeter shots and didn't get to the line enough. That's low % BB. You want to get STAT and Tyson involved because they shoot closer to the basket and draw fouls. So not only do STAT and Tyson shoot a higher % from the floor, but they get to the Free Throw line too, which is even higher %.

So my concern about Woody is will he be capable of figuring out how to use STAT, Melo and Tyson? He certainly failed at doing that this go round. People are putting too much into the 18-6. It's a historical fact that often coaches get a boost from the coaching change and teams will go on a run but eventually settle back down into the mean. Woody had the coaching change Bump and Melo got HOT during April. Those things combined were fools gold. It wasn't real. That's not a winning formula for a normal 82 game schedule!!! Woody still has a problem similar to what MDA faced. His team plays best in a different style from that of his best player. The rest of the team thrives in uptempo, spread offense with PnR and ball movement and Melo thrives in ISO. That's a structural problem IMO. MDA wanted Melo to adjust a bit and I don't believe he was wrong. PJax would also want Melo to adjust IMO. Not totally change, but realize that the team has to be involved for most of the game and then when it's crunchtime Melo can get more ISO plays to seal a win.

We could do a whole lot worse than Woody, but his post season offensive sets were brutal to watch. My chief complaint is Novak...9 FGA the entire series. Now I know the Heat paid him close attention, but you can't just wait for Miami to leave him open...RUN A DAMN PLAY FOR HIM!

I'd definitely welcome him back, but if one of the Grumpy Old Men decide to come back to coach, make it happen.

JamesKPolk wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:He's coming back. It's over. Dolan runs this show and his new yes-man (Grunwald) is giving Dolan A+ grades to Woodson.

Grunwald brought in Lin, Novak, Davis, Smith, Jeffries, amnestied Chauncey to get Tyson and brought in Woodson as the defensive assistant. All sound basketball moves in my opinion. What makes him a yes man? Is it because he is a low profile guy?

Davis and Smith sucked here. Not sure why he's praised for those moves.

Not sure why he deserves all the credit for Lin and Novak either, since I highly doubt he saw them being major pieces to this team.

Jeffries was coming back regardless.

The only legit move he made was for Tyson Chandler. The jury is still out on Grunwald. The majority of this team is still Walsh's.

Don't forget, these guys didn't pan out, after the fact. Each was hailed as great pickups to a limited team. If Davis was not too far gone and Smith showed higher Bball IQ, we would still be in the hunt.

nyk4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Its funny. Novak had plenty of open looks in the regular season under woodson who everyone wants gone. I wonder if the Heat fast defense and Novaks lack of speed to get open on them had anything to do with it? Please explain

it's not about that. it's about doing something to get novak open when he can't do it on his own. how about running some plays for him? how about having someone setting a few screens and having him come off those? the pacers routinely set reggie miller a ton of screens to get him open against teams that were blanketing him defensively.

Reggie Miller is a comical comparison to Novak - Miller was very agile