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Anji
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5/1/2012  1:54 AM
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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5/1/2012  3:23 AM
Amar'e Stoudemire ‏ @Amareisreal Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
We all have done thing out of anger that we regret. That makes us human. Bad timing on my part. Sorry guys. This to shall pass.
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5/1/2012  5:37 AM
He has completely f***ed up- he knows it, we know it, his team mates know it- a complete and utter f*** up. But yeah, he's human. It's been an absolute disaster of a season for him physically, professionally and personally, and I guess in that moment it all got to him and he made a huge mistake. I get it, but I am really disappointed in him too.

Can he recover from this season? I really don't know. I say, in the offseason, he needs to be glued to LJ. Up until now his main worry has been whether he can still dominate offensively with Melo. That's a red herring- he needs to do what LJ did when he played with Ewing- find another way to contribute and be a vital player, and that's going to be on the defensive end. That's what he needs to lock in on- defense and rebounding, maybe learn some post up moves, but that needs to be his focus going forward.

All this talk of trading him- we can't, that's a fact- no one will have him- the knee's were bad enough, but now he has back woes too. The reality is he's here for the next 3 seasons and we have to figure out a way for him to be productive.
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5/1/2012  6:51 AM
He was a canidate for league MVP before Melo came. Now he's a good player trying to fit in. Him and Fields. Its a shame. Smh
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5/1/2012  6:58 AM
Well, really, against the heat this is a good thing. Amare needs a PG to set him up against a team that plays defense like the heat. Hopefully we go back to playing on a tear like when he was out. Woody is too thick headed to bring Amare off the bench. I think this is a blessing in disguise, as long as Jared can play some minutes.
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5/1/2012  7:05 AM
you have to be ****ing kidding me
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5/1/2012  7:09 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
MinsHeartsReezy wrote:Unbelievable. Amare couldn't have just freakin thrown something?? What is it with men..why hit things??? It makes no sense. I've always given him the benefit of the doubt about his struggles this season but it was killing me how he was unable to put a hand up in a guys face who was a foot away from him on defense. That's the least one can do.

But to hear this??? This is so unlike him!! Completely unacceptable. I don't care how angry or passionate you are. Honestly, as much as I sympathize with him, he needs to be fined by the Knicks. That's a 100,000,000 investment that he intentionally, even if it was in the heat of the moment, jeopardized. And btw that's a very generous HUNDRED MILLION UNINSURED DOLLARS that they risked on him. He might not even need a suspension if he has muscle, nerve or ligament damage (its hard to imagine ligament damage unless the laceration is nearer to the wrist or knuckle on the side of the hand but I guess its still speculation). I doubt he wanted to seriously hurt himself but this was a terrible decision. You don't f'in punch glass. You just don't. He has to be smarter than that. We know he is.

I hope the injury isn't serious. He's def. still struggling mentally with everything that happened this year and I'm sure as much as we complain he's gotta be feeling horrible about the poor play and now worse about this idiotic act.

It kinda of reminds me of Plaxico shooting himself except he waited until after he had a ring damnit!!! All the players we shell out the big $$ for get hurt...in no way shape or form should a player be the one doing it to himself in this kind of manner.

That's Amare.

Well ... its better than Kidd and jordan hill who hit their woman instead

At least women are soft

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5/1/2012  7:14 AM
BasketballJones wrote:
MinsHeartsReezy wrote:Unbelievable. Amare couldn't have just freakin thrown something?? What is it with men..why hit things??? It makes no sense. I've always given him the benefit of the doubt about his struggles this season but it was killing me how he was unable to put a hand up in a guys face who was a foot away from him on defense. That's the least one can do.

But to hear this??? This is so unlike him!! Completely unacceptable. I don't care how angry or passionate you are. Honestly, as much as I sympathize with him, he needs to be fined by the Knicks. That's a 100,000,000 investment that he intentionally, even if it was in the heat of the moment, jeopardized. And btw that's a very generous HUNDRED MILLION UNINSURED DOLLARS that they risked on him. He might not even need a suspension if he has muscle, nerve or ligament damage (its hard to imagine ligament damage unless the laceration is nearer to the wrist or knuckle on the side of the hand but I guess its still speculation). I doubt he wanted to seriously hurt himself but this was a terrible decision. You don't f'in punch glass. You just don't. He has to be smarter than that. We know he is.

I hope the injury isn't serious. He's def. still struggling mentally with everything that happened this year and I'm sure as much as we complain he's gotta be feeling horrible about the poor play and now worse about this idiotic act.

It kinda of reminds me of Plaxico shooting himself except he waited until after he had a ring damnit!!! All the players we shell out the big $$ for get hurt...in no way shape or form should a player be the one doing it to himself in this kind of manner.

That's Amare.

when your fist hits some glass and you can't go to the dance, that's Amar'e

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5/1/2012  7:27 AM
Void his contract. Find a way. This is beyond inexcusable and idiotic.

WTF where you thinking, Amar'e? First of all, you should've been ashamed of yourself BEFORE hitting the extinguisher. Why? Because of your sorry defense. Second, yes, what you did last night is a disgrace to the team. You MAD? Throw something! Scream your being out! Get a bat and smash something! But to cut your hand? That is so pathetic for a basketball player.

This team is showing their true weakness. They have the talent to compete and if they put their all on it, they'd be able to win some games. But they are mentally weak. They are a mentally soft team that will talk about beating the world but at the first sign of adversity they will fold. The fact that is playoff time is eating their brains out. Miami should fear an upset, but instead its us, already underdogs, beating ourselves mentally.

That's why, for his really remarkable season run of 18-6, Woodson isn't the guy this team needs. They need a SOAB that will REALLY bring accountability along with toughness.

They might actually play better in Game 3 without Amar'e, but this series is already over. The Knick never arrived, mentally.

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5/1/2012  8:36 AM
Anji wrote:

Awesome!!
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5/1/2012  8:40 AM
In Amare's defense....the case to the fire extinguisher does say "break glass in case of an emergency"...he was just following directions.
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5/1/2012  9:05 AM
knickslions wrote:
Anji wrote:

Awesome!!


Yeah that is hilarious!
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5/1/2012  10:15 AM
VDesai wrote:Might actually be some addition by subtraction since he and Melo can't figure out how to space the floor and play together anyway. Maybe we can get some better ball movement.

Yup. Although he did somehow get game 2 #s we'd be ecstatic about we're it anyone else.
Maybe we' re being way too hard on STAT but I feel like our defense will be way better without him, chandle can be the roll man on PNR, more minutes for Novak is a good thing and Melo can go back to the 4. Even Jeffries and jorts being out there is better for our D

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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5/1/2012  10:28 AM

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5/1/2012  10:34 AM
No no no, you guys just dont get it. Amare was making a demonstrative plea to his comrades by using an illustration about putting out the fire that the heat have caught at the expense of the Knicks. In order to show the Knicks the proper fire prevention techniques necessary Amare needed a visual aid, something hard, something made of metal, something encased in flesh tearing glass of some sort.
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5/1/2012  10:52 AM
I may not even care about the series anymore. If you tell me Amar'es contract can be voided because of this, our postseason would be a huge success.

This killed ANY respect I had for this guy. Cue to all the excuses for Stat about his tough year, family issues, injuries and all. Guess what? We ALL go through tough times and have to keep working hard, doing our best and making sure we are able to respond for our responsibilities. What Amar'e did wasn't only childish, which shows his immaturity, but is the worst a player can do to a team that is already down, which shows how foolish it is to expect any leader quality out of this defenseless bum.

I know many will defend him and have their good arguments. More power to you if you keep rooting for this guy and still want him on the team. Not me. Defense is about effort and willingness to put your body in position to stop the other player. He plays none of it. Teamwork is about understanding you are an important part of a team and willing to do whatever it takes to make the team prosper. Truth is, Amar'e HAD the responsibility to his teammates and his franchise to take care of himself. For a guy that missed time during last playoffs for trying to help, is so disappointing that he will probably miss time this playoffs for such a stupid thing to do. Im trough with this guy. Would hate to see him stay in orange and blue.

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5/1/2012  12:03 PM
Oh c'mon. I suppose none of you guys has ever done something stupid in a moment of anger or frustration.
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5/1/2012  12:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/1/2012  12:46 PM
Knicksfan wrote:I may not even care about the series anymore. If you tell me Amar'es contract can be voided because of this, our postseason would be a huge success.

This killed ANY respect I had for this guy. Cue to all the excuses for Stat about his tough year, family issues, injuries and all. Guess what? We ALL go through tough times and have to keep working hard, doing our best and making sure we are able to respond for our responsibilities. What Amar'e did wasn't only childish, which shows his immaturity, but is the worst a player can do to a team that is already down, which shows how foolish it is to expect any leader quality out of this defenseless bum.

I know many will defend him and have their good arguments. More power to you if you keep rooting for this guy and still want him on the team. Not me. Defense is about effort and willingness to put your body in position to stop the other player. He plays none of it. Teamwork is about understanding you are an important part of a team and willing to do whatever it takes to make the team prosper. Truth is, Amar'e HAD the responsibility to his teammates and his franchise to take care of himself. For a guy that missed time during last playoffs for trying to help, is so disappointing that he will probably miss time this playoffs for such a stupid thing to do. Im trough with this guy. Would hate to see him stay in orange and blue.

And I think that kind of expectation from everyone is one of the reasons for his outburst. All season long, despite his brother dying, his back problems, his failure to be picked for the all star game etc etc, he's always tried to maintain a positive spin on things and hide any frustration, and deny any problems because he's expected to be a leader- eventually that bottled up frustrations going to come out and it did.

I'm annoyed about it, but I understand it and I don't think it's an unforgivable mistake! And he's not even the only Knick player to go bone-head in the playoffs- what about Ewing and co leaving the bench in 1997?! Was that an unforgivable crime?

We as fans put way too much pressure on these guys- we do, we're so conditional with our support and turn on players so quickly and demand more out of them than is realistic. Honestly, if you polled every ex-knick, I'll bet hardly any of them enjoyed playing here. And you can say "oh that's because they weren't tough enough to play in NY", but I think the fact that we can be absolute a**holes to them is just as much to blame.
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5/1/2012  12:57 PM
This may get its own thread:

Source: Amar’e to visit hand specialist
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/source-amar-e-stoudemire-visit-hand-specialist-manhattan-determine-extent-damage-hand-article-1.1070553?localLinksEnabled=false

It only gets better!

It would have been better if he had just Metta World Peaced Lebrons head and gotten suspended for 30 games.
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5/1/2012  1:02 PM
franco12 wrote:This may get its own thread:

Source: Amar’e to visit hand specialist
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/source-amar-e-stoudemire-visit-hand-specialist-manhattan-determine-extent-damage-hand-article-1.1070553?localLinksEnabled=false

It only gets better!

It would have been better if he had just Metta World Peaced Lebrons head and gotten suspended for 30 games.

Slightly off topic, but if you go to that article, you see a picture of the fire extinguisher. My question is, how are you actually meant to get the extinguisher out of the metal case if there was a fire? There's a lock on it and the glass bit (aside from cutting your hand if broken) isn't big enough to get it out of.
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