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IrishKnickFan wrote:The cavs game was the dagger. The Pacers are luckiest playoff team they will sweep the Magic what an easy first round for them

It was a long shot. 18-24 killed this team. The team had to play at such a high rate just to make the playoffs.

More like 2-8 killed us. That 10 game stretch is what made the last part of the season so much harder than it had to be. They may not have been able to do much at the start of the year when STAT and Melo weren't really in great shape and TD was horrid, but after Linsanity the team was in a good spot and getting healthy. That 2-8 stretch was not what the team needed at that time.

I think the 2-11 run in January was the dagger personally.

Nah. Not when you get that back and have a chance to go over .500 with everyone coming back healthy. The early stuff was bad, but understandable, since STAT and Melo were off their game and we didn't have a PG. Heck Melo didn't get his offensive game back until March 28th. From that game forward he's been on fire, but before that he struggled offensively. I'll give him a break since it could've been health related, but that 10 game stretch when he came back was a brutal let down after the team had fought back to a high level of play.

Playoff teams don't lose at that rate. The two losing stretches mentioned account for a 4-19 record. This team was buried before Woodson.

Man WTF are you talking about? The team was 18-18 at the end of Feb. and playing well enough to get above .500 with 2 months to go!!! No season is over at that point. If they don't go 2-8 after Melo comes back, this team is most certainly going to be a higher seed.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:The cavs game was the dagger. The Pacers are luckiest playoff team they will sweep the Magic what an easy first round for them

It was a long shot. 18-24 killed this team. The team had to play at such a high rate just to make the playoffs.

More like 2-8 killed us. That 10 game stretch is what made the last part of the season so much harder than it had to be. They may not have been able to do much at the start of the year when STAT and Melo weren't really in great shape and TD was horrid, but after Linsanity the team was in a good spot and getting healthy. That 2-8 stretch was not what the team needed at that time.

I think the 2-11 run in January was the dagger personally.

Nah. Not when you get that back and have a chance to go over .500 with everyone coming back healthy. The early stuff was bad, but understandable, since STAT and Melo were off their game and we didn't have a PG. Heck Melo didn't get his offensive game back until March 28th. From that game forward he's been on fire, but before that he struggled offensively. I'll give him a break since it could've been health related, but that 10 game stretch when he came back was a brutal let down after the team had fought back to a high level of play.

Playoff teams don't lose at that rate. The two losing stretches mentioned account for a 4-19 record. This team was buried before Woodson.

Man WTF are you talking about? The team was 18-18 at the end of Feb. and playing well enough to get above .500 with 2 months to go!!! No season is over at that point. If they don't go 2-8 after Melo comes back, this team is most certainly going to be a higher seed.

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:The cavs game was the dagger. The Pacers are luckiest playoff team they will sweep the Magic what an easy first round for them

It was a long shot. 18-24 killed this team. The team had to play at such a high rate just to make the playoffs.

More like 2-8 killed us. That 10 game stretch is what made the last part of the season so much harder than it had to be. They may not have been able to do much at the start of the year when STAT and Melo weren't really in great shape and TD was horrid, but after Linsanity the team was in a good spot and getting healthy. That 2-8 stretch was not what the team needed at that time.

I think the 2-11 run in January was the dagger personally.

Nah. Not when you get that back and have a chance to go over .500 with everyone coming back healthy. The early stuff was bad, but understandable, since STAT and Melo were off their game and we didn't have a PG. Heck Melo didn't get his offensive game back until March 28th. From that game forward he's been on fire, but before that he struggled offensively. I'll give him a break since it could've been health related, but that 10 game stretch when he came back was a brutal let down after the team had fought back to a high level of play.

Playoff teams don't lose at that rate. The two losing stretches mentioned account for a 4-19 record. This team was buried before Woodson.

Man WTF are you talking about? The team was 18-18 at the end of Feb. and playing well enough to get above .500 with 2 months to go!!! No season is over at that point. If they don't go 2-8 after Melo comes back, this team is most certainly going to be a higher seed.

6 games later they are 18-24. What are you talking about?

That shouldn't have happened. You know it and I know it. The team was playing at a high level defensively and all that went away for that 10 game stretch. Everyone was hopeful that the team would get stronger when everyone came back. The fear was that when Melo came back the chemistry would fall apart and unfortunately that's what happened for a while. Literally just a few more wins would've made all the difference.

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nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:The cavs game was the dagger. The Pacers are luckiest playoff team they will sweep the Magic what an easy first round for them

It was a long shot. 18-24 killed this team. The team had to play at such a high rate just to make the playoffs.

More like 2-8 killed us. That 10 game stretch is what made the last part of the season so much harder than it had to be. They may not have been able to do much at the start of the year when STAT and Melo weren't really in great shape and TD was horrid, but after Linsanity the team was in a good spot and getting healthy. That 2-8 stretch was not what the team needed at that time.

I think the 2-11 run in January was the dagger personally.

Nah. Not when you get that back and have a chance to go over .500 with everyone coming back healthy. The early stuff was bad, but understandable, since STAT and Melo were off their game and we didn't have a PG. Heck Melo didn't get his offensive game back until March 28th. From that game forward he's been on fire, but before that he struggled offensively. I'll give him a break since it could've been health related, but that 10 game stretch when he came back was a brutal let down after the team had fought back to a high level of play.

Playoff teams don't lose at that rate. The two losing stretches mentioned account for a 4-19 record. This team was buried before Woodson.

Man WTF are you talking about? The team was 18-18 at the end of Feb. and playing well enough to get above .500 with 2 months to go!!! No season is over at that point. If they don't go 2-8 after Melo comes back, this team is most certainly going to be a higher seed.

6 games later they are 18-24. What are you talking about?

That shouldn't have happened. You know it and I know it. The team was playing at a high level defensively and all that went away for that 10 game stretch. Everyone was hopeful that the team would get stronger when everyone came back. The fear was that when Melo came back the chemistry would fall apart and unfortunately that's what happened for a while. Literally just a few more wins would've made all the difference.

It happened too many times and that is why the team was 18-24.

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nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:The cavs game was the dagger. The Pacers are luckiest playoff team they will sweep the Magic what an easy first round for them

It was a long shot. 18-24 killed this team. The team had to play at such a high rate just to make the playoffs.

More like 2-8 killed us. That 10 game stretch is what made the last part of the season so much harder than it had to be. They may not have been able to do much at the start of the year when STAT and Melo weren't really in great shape and TD was horrid, but after Linsanity the team was in a good spot and getting healthy. That 2-8 stretch was not what the team needed at that time.

I think the 2-11 run in January was the dagger personally.

Nah. Not when you get that back and have a chance to go over .500 with everyone coming back healthy. The early stuff was bad, but understandable, since STAT and Melo were off their game and we didn't have a PG. Heck Melo didn't get his offensive game back until March 28th. From that game forward he's been on fire, but before that he struggled offensively. I'll give him a break since it could've been health related, but that 10 game stretch when he came back was a brutal let down after the team had fought back to a high level of play.

Playoff teams don't lose at that rate. The two losing stretches mentioned account for a 4-19 record. This team was buried before Woodson.

Man WTF are you talking about? The team was 18-18 at the end of Feb. and playing well enough to get above .500 with 2 months to go!!! No season is over at that point. If they don't go 2-8 after Melo comes back, this team is most certainly going to be a higher seed.

6 games later they are 18-24. What are you talking about?

That shouldn't have happened. You know it and I know it. The team was playing at a high level defensively and all that went away for that 10 game stretch. Everyone was hopeful that the team would get stronger when everyone came back. The fear was that when Melo came back the chemistry would fall apart and unfortunately that's what happened for a while. Literally just a few more wins would've made all the difference.

It happened too many times and that is why the team was 18-24.

If you just plainly state why you think that the losses earlier in January were worse then I could understand your point but they clearly weren't since the team did eventually reach .500 and only the 2-8 stretch really set them back to a point where they couldn't win the div.

MY point is pretty basic. The tremendous lows this team hit with the previous coach buried them. When we can argue over whether 2-11 is worse than when he went 2-8 I think that says it all.

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:The cavs game was the dagger. The Pacers are luckiest playoff team they will sweep the Magic what an easy first round for them

It was a long shot. 18-24 killed this team. The team had to play at such a high rate just to make the playoffs.

More like 2-8 killed us. That 10 game stretch is what made the last part of the season so much harder than it had to be. They may not have been able to do much at the start of the year when STAT and Melo weren't really in great shape and TD was horrid, but after Linsanity the team was in a good spot and getting healthy. That 2-8 stretch was not what the team needed at that time.

I think the 2-11 run in January was the dagger personally.

Nah. Not when you get that back and have a chance to go over .500 with everyone coming back healthy. The early stuff was bad, but understandable, since STAT and Melo were off their game and we didn't have a PG. Heck Melo didn't get his offensive game back until March 28th. From that game forward he's been on fire, but before that he struggled offensively. I'll give him a break since it could've been health related, but that 10 game stretch when he came back was a brutal let down after the team had fought back to a high level of play.

Playoff teams don't lose at that rate. The two losing stretches mentioned account for a 4-19 record. This team was buried before Woodson.

Man WTF are you talking about? The team was 18-18 at the end of Feb. and playing well enough to get above .500 with 2 months to go!!! No season is over at that point. If they don't go 2-8 after Melo comes back, this team is most certainly going to be a higher seed.

6 games later they are 18-24. What are you talking about?

That shouldn't have happened. You know it and I know it. The team was playing at a high level defensively and all that went away for that 10 game stretch. Everyone was hopeful that the team would get stronger when everyone came back. The fear was that when Melo came back the chemistry would fall apart and unfortunately that's what happened for a while. Literally just a few more wins would've made all the difference.

It happened too many times and that is why the team was 18-24.

If you just plainly state why you think that the losses earlier in January were worse then I could understand your point but they clearly weren't since the team did eventually reach .500 and only the 2-8 stretch really set them back to a point where they couldn't win the div.

MY point is pretty basic. The tremendous lows this team hit with the previous coach buried them. When we can argue over whether 2-11 is worse than when he went 2-8 I think that says it all.

There was two 6 game losing streaks under a certain coach during different parts of the schedule. That's 12 losses of no adjusments, poor teaching, poor preparation, bad execution, no accountability. That's pretty much to blame for where we are seeding wise. If only Woody was allowed to coach sooner...

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nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

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nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:The cavs game was the dagger. The Pacers are luckiest playoff team they will sweep the Magic what an easy first round for them

It was a long shot. 18-24 killed this team. The team had to play at such a high rate just to make the playoffs.

More like 2-8 killed us. That 10 game stretch is what made the last part of the season so much harder than it had to be. They may not have been able to do much at the start of the year when STAT and Melo weren't really in great shape and TD was horrid, but after Linsanity the team was in a good spot and getting healthy. That 2-8 stretch was not what the team needed at that time.

I think the 2-11 run in January was the dagger personally.

Nah. Not when you get that back and have a chance to go over .500 with everyone coming back healthy. The early stuff was bad, but understandable, since STAT and Melo were off their game and we didn't have a PG. Heck Melo didn't get his offensive game back until March 28th. From that game forward he's been on fire, but before that he struggled offensively. I'll give him a break since it could've been health related, but that 10 game stretch when he came back was a brutal let down after the team had fought back to a high level of play.

Playoff teams don't lose at that rate. The two losing stretches mentioned account for a 4-19 record. This team was buried before Woodson.

Man WTF are you talking about? The team was 18-18 at the end of Feb. and playing well enough to get above .500 with 2 months to go!!! No season is over at that point. If they don't go 2-8 after Melo comes back, this team is most certainly going to be a higher seed.

6 games later they are 18-24. What are you talking about?

That shouldn't have happened. You know it and I know it. The team was playing at a high level defensively and all that went away for that 10 game stretch. Everyone was hopeful that the team would get stronger when everyone came back. The fear was that when Melo came back the chemistry would fall apart and unfortunately that's what happened for a while. Literally just a few more wins would've made all the difference.

It happened too many times and that is why the team was 18-24.

If you just plainly state why you think that the losses earlier in January were worse then I could understand your point but they clearly weren't since the team did eventually reach .500 and only the 2-8 stretch really set them back to a point where they couldn't win the div.

MY point is pretty basic. The tremendous lows this team hit with the previous coach buried them. When we can argue over whether 2-11 is worse than when he went 2-8 I think that says it all.

There was two 6 game losing streaks under a certain coach during different parts of the schedule. That's 12 losses of no adjusments, poor teaching, poor preparation, bad execution, no accountability. That's pretty much to blame for where we are seeding wise. If only Woody was allowed to coach sooner...

Whatever man. Just show me where the teams best player stepped up and led his team to wins over that period. Dude had the ball in his hands to do what he needed to do. Didn't get it done. Same dude is off the court and the team wins playing great D and team BB. Don't lay it all on a coach when it's almost always about the players on the court. 95% of what a team does is the talent you have on the floor. If they don't get it done no coach can help them. Not Jeff Van Gundy, Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkins, Larry Brown, Isiah Thomas, Mike D'Antoni or Mike Woodson.

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not one > 500 team (la, dal on the road < .400)

@Boston (Melo plays well finally and gets benched SMFH), @Miami, @Dallas, @SA, @Mil

Same thing right? Geez!! I love how you just keep ignoring it! Very honest. Not to mention how Lin was a bit exposed by Miami but who cares about any of this since it deflates your argument.