mrKnickShot wrote:

tj23 wrote:What do his teammates have to do with his horrific shot % before he hit this good stretch? Or his unwillingness to give up the ball when double teamed against Boston in the playoffs? Or just the fact that he wasn't playing as hard for D'Antoni?

Haha - that pretty funny? Give up the ball to WHOM in the playoffs if I may ask?? Jared Jefferies? Uh ... that worked out great. 26 points and 10 rebounds per game with zero supporting cast.

Olbrannon wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

tj23 wrote:He's playing like one tonight. SUPERstars do it every night. Melo is an all star...

"There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”

Michael Jordan

http://thinkexist.com/quotes/michael_jordan/

Yeah good point. Tell me which SUPERSTAR won with a team like this POS? With no PG or even worse BD? Please!!

Bryant without Shaq

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Did anyone here specifically criticize his ISO playing? I criticized taking contested, low percentage shots but not specifically ISO playing. And if I were to make those comments only after bad games, you would claim I was "hiding" after the good games. I pay attention to the quality of the shot, not whether it goes in on any one night. (All of that said, I didn't see the first 3 quarters and am commenting only on the 4th quarter.)

Figures you would HAPPEN to miss the first 3 quarters HOW CONVENIENT!!

17 for 31 and you are still bitching. Cause that's what you like to do.

And if I don't comment for 3 quarters you claim I'm in hiding. If I do say anything negative after a game, you say I'm a hater. Maybe you're the one who is bitching.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Did anyone here specifically criticize his ISO playing? I criticized taking contested, low percentage shots but not specifically ISO playing. And if I were to make those comments only after bad games, you would claim I was "hiding" after the good games. I pay attention to the quality of the shot, not whether it goes in on any one night. (All of that said, I didn't see the first 3 quarters and am commenting only on the 4th quarter.)

Figures you would HAPPEN to miss the first 3 quarters HOW CONVENIENT!!

17 for 31 and you are still bitching. Cause that's what you like to do.

Why would it make sense to adjust one's opinion of the player after every game? Why would it make sense to change one's mind about whether a low percentage shot is a good one just because it went in in one game?

And if I don't comment for 3 quarters you claim I'm in hiding. If I do say anything negative after a game, you say I'm a hater. Maybe you're the one who is bitching.

I am a bitcher but at least I admit it when I do.

I suggest you go back and watch the game then. I can really see how much you would hate Kobe on this team even in his prime cause of all the horrendous shots that he takes.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Did anyone here specifically criticize his ISO playing? I criticized taking contested, low percentage shots but not specifically ISO playing. And if I were to make those comments only after bad games, you would claim I was "hiding" after the good games. I pay attention to the quality of the shot, not whether it goes in on any one night. (All of that said, I didn't see the first 3 quarters and am commenting only on the 4th quarter.)

Figures you would HAPPEN to miss the first 3 quarters HOW CONVENIENT!!

17 for 31 and you are still bitching. Cause that's what you like to do.

Why would it make sense to adjust one's opinion of the player after every game? Why would it make sense to change one's mind about whether a low percentage shot is a good one just because it went in in one game?

And if I don't comment for 3 quarters you claim I'm in hiding. If I do say anything negative after a game, you say I'm a hater. Maybe you're the one who is bitching.

I am a bitcher but at least I admit it when I do.

I suggest you go back and watch the game then. I can really see how much you would hate Kobe on this team even in his prime cause of all the horrendous shots that he takes.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Did anyone here specifically criticize his ISO playing? I criticized taking contested, low percentage shots but not specifically ISO playing. And if I were to make those comments only after bad games, you would claim I was "hiding" after the good games. I pay attention to the quality of the shot, not whether it goes in on any one night. (All of that said, I didn't see the first 3 quarters and am commenting only on the 4th quarter.)

Figures you would HAPPEN to miss the first 3 quarters HOW CONVENIENT!!

17 for 31 and you are still bitching. Cause that's what you like to do.

Why would it make sense to adjust one's opinion of the player after every game? Why would it make sense to change one's mind about whether a low percentage shot is a good one just because it went in in one game?

And if I don't comment for 3 quarters you claim I'm in hiding. If I do say anything negative after a game, you say I'm a hater. Maybe you're the one who is bitching.

I am a bitcher but at least I admit it when I do.

I suggest you go back and watch the game then. I can really see how much you would hate Kobe on this team even in his prime cause of all the horrendous shots that he takes.

So you're not going to answer my questions?

A shot that goes in is a high pct shot.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Did anyone here specifically criticize his ISO playing? I criticized taking contested, low percentage shots but not specifically ISO playing. And if I were to make those comments only after bad games, you would claim I was "hiding" after the good games. I pay attention to the quality of the shot, not whether it goes in on any one night. (All of that said, I didn't see the first 3 quarters and am commenting only on the 4th quarter.)

Figures you would HAPPEN to miss the first 3 quarters HOW CONVENIENT!!

17 for 31 and you are still bitching. Cause that's what you like to do.

And if Melo really is a superstar, he should expect criticism even in games when he puts up big numbers. How many times have Lebron, Kobe, MJ, and other superstars put up big numbers but gotten criticized for one reason or another. Are you sure you want him to be held to the standards of a superstar?

Nope. Don't care for your standards - I care much more about winning than bitching but thats just me

And you're saying this after a team loss? Honestly you seem more concerned about bragging about Melo's stat line than about winning.

If you care so much about winning, than you should hold judgment on Melo, we were an 8th playoff seat before the trade; we are still an 8th playoff seat after. Usually true superstars tend to increase the winning percentage of the team they are traded to, not make it worst.

Bonn1997 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Some of you guys are too much. Melo played his ass off last night and he's still getting crap for ISO ball. NEWSFLASH - We gave up too many points in the paint and way too many second chance points. Our defense was horrible in the 1st and the 4th.

Terrible lose and I'm pissed but to say the Knicks lost the game becuase of ISO ball confirms your status as a Melo hater.

Did anyone here specifically criticize his ISO playing? I criticized taking contested, low percentage shots but not specifically ISO playing. And if I were to make those comments only after bad games, you would claim I was "hiding" after the good games. I pay attention to the quality of the shot, not whether it goes in on any one night. (All of that said, I didn't see the first 3 quarters and am commenting only on the 4th quarter.)

Figures you would HAPPEN to miss the first 3 quarters HOW CONVENIENT!!

17 for 31 and you are still bitching. Cause that's what you like to do.

And if Melo really is a superstar, he should expect criticism even in games when he puts up big numbers. How many times have Lebron, Kobe, MJ, and other superstars put up big numbers but gotten criticized for one reason or another. Are you sure you want him to be held to the standards of a superstar?

Nope. Don't care for your standards - I care much more about winning than bitching but thats just me

And you're saying this after a team loss? Honestly you seem more concerned about bragging about Melo's stat line than about winning.

If you care so much about winning, than you should hold judgment on Melo, we were an 8th playoff seat before the trade; we are still an 8th playoff seat after. Usually true superstars tend to increase the winning percentage of the team they are traded to, not make it worst.

I'm judging Melo based on his career performance. What else is there to judge a player on?

That wasn’t for you my friend Bonn1997; it was for mrKnickShot, “who care much more about winning” yet for a supposedly superstar Melo hasn’t won much in the NBA. Just saying.

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:Superstars don't win Championships. Teams do.

Good point. Who's our team?

Baron Davis? SUCKS!
Shumpert? Alot of promise, great defender, cant rely on him offensively other than some spurts at this point. Again, HUGE upside but not yet and not without a PG
JR? HA!
Oh Jorts? Ha Ha!
Fields? Couldn't throw the ball in the ocean if he was sitting on a boat.
TD? Ok maybe you have something there

Chandler = GREAT! but very limited offensively outside of 5 feet. Badly needs a 10-15 foot jumper - PJax will not stand for that if he comes here.

Billy Walker - we miss his timely offensive fouls
Bibby - He was great for us IN THE CIVIL WAR!

JJ - sorely missed - can't score a lick but getting a bit better at not looking SO BAD (like last years playoffs - nice pass MELO)

Novak - great shot but nobody is leaving him opened anymore and we don't have guards to break down the offense enough to get him opened

OUR BEST PLAY AND PRETTY MUCH ONLY PLAY NOW IS ISO MELO! Followed by a TD 3 pointer, followed by a BD fade away from half court while the clock is winding down cause thats as far as he got being that he is so FUKKING FAST!

Lin seemed to do well with a bunch of so called "bums"

So has Melo, 9-3 since you know who quit. With the same bunch of bums. so what is your point?