mrKnickShot wrote:

JamesLin wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

JamesLin wrote:I was never a believer in D'Antoni's system, but set it aside, can you really blame him for this losing streak?

1. Jeremy Lin was a surprise. D'Antoni does not know how to handle that or work with it on top of his head (or just given a few weeks)
2. Amar'e sibling death (more like a dead son) is not something D'Antoni can handle and encourage Amar'e to play well, just can't. Think how Jordan handled his dad's murder, by being out for a while and he was a superstar.
3. Melo, melo, melo. ... that was ALL Jim Dumblan and NOBODY ELSE TO BLAME. D'Antoni was just cleaning up the mess and couldn't do a good job wiping Jim's butt
4. Whole new bench players and some got injured. D'Antoni is probably saying to himself "Why don't you just shoot me god?"

That said, I still think we need new owner...Jim Dumblan looks more and more like the naked from waist down skinny white dude in prison screaming "Please boss, gimme some more!"

Of course you can! Everyone gets blame and it starts with the coach. It always does - thats why they make a sh1tload of money

I understand everything starts with the coach. However, I think the only thing D'Antoni should be blamed for is his inability to gel team chemistry with all the players coming back, as well as there were no leaders all this time, and now the team is crumbling. Also, D'Antoni made less than many players, so don't think the money is the focus here. Besides, letting D'Antoni go might cause the same situation 49ers faced: 7 different coach each year and look at the team (before this year), it might be disastrous if we let D'Antoni go now.. we'll have to wait til season ends, and judging the trend, the season might end when playoff starts.

I would not fire him now. I would wait to the end of the season and judge him then.

The lakers had 11 coaches since 1990, we had 10.

11 of those years in LA were PJax and the still had time to hire and fire 10 other coaches.

Last I saw, they one 6 rings with their coaching carousel. We need the right coach and his name is Phil Jackson. He wants this job and we need him as well.

JCrusher wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

JamesLin wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

JamesLin wrote:I was never a believer in D'Antoni's system, but set it aside, can you really blame him for this losing streak?

1. Jeremy Lin was a surprise. D'Antoni does not know how to handle that or work with it on top of his head (or just given a few weeks)
2. Amar'e sibling death (more like a dead son) is not something D'Antoni can handle and encourage Amar'e to play well, just can't. Think how Jordan handled his dad's murder, by being out for a while and he was a superstar.
3. Melo, melo, melo. ... that was ALL Jim Dumblan and NOBODY ELSE TO BLAME. D'Antoni was just cleaning up the mess and couldn't do a good job wiping Jim's butt
4. Whole new bench players and some got injured. D'Antoni is probably saying to himself "Why don't you just shoot me god?"

That said, I still think we need new owner...Jim Dumblan looks more and more like the naked from waist down skinny white dude in prison screaming "Please boss, gimme some more!"

Of course you can! Everyone gets blame and it starts with the coach. It always does - thats why they make a sh1tload of money

I understand everything starts with the coach. However, I think the only thing D'Antoni should be blamed for is his inability to gel team chemistry with all the players coming back, as well as there were no leaders all this time, and now the team is crumbling. Also, D'Antoni made less than many players, so don't think the money is the focus here. Besides, letting D'Antoni go might cause the same situation 49ers faced: 7 different coach each year and look at the team (before this year), it might be disastrous if we let D'Antoni go now.. we'll have to wait til season ends, and judging the trend, the season might end when playoff starts.

I would not fire him now. I would wait to the end of the season and judge him then.

The lakers had 11 coaches since 1990, we had 10.

11 of those years in LA were PJax and the still had time to hire and fire 10 other coaches.

Last I saw, they one 6 rings with their coaching carousel. We need the right coach and his name is Phil Jackson. He wants this job and we need him as well.

How do you know Phil wants this job?

I don't. I am hoping he does. I don't KNOW anything.

I THINK that he might want to be a hero in NY. He won with Kobe/Shaq, Kobe/Gasol, Jordan/Pippen ...

I think he thinks that he might still have something to prove. What better place than in NY where he was a beloved scrappy knick. Where everyone fails.

If you can make it here you can make it anywhere.

nixluva wrote:Phil Jax isn't a miracle worker. He's a manager of title level talent. You'll end up disappointed if you think he can work miracles with teams that don't have best in league, elite talent. I'm more impressed with what Rick Carlisle did than I am with Jax. It's much easier to seem like a card shark when you have a loaded hand every game.

Whatever ...

10 rings and he will always have people like you say he always had a loaded hand. How'd the lakers do before PJax? After? In between?

But, its that opinion that hopefully makes PJax want to come here and prove something. He does have a huge ego.

I would much rather be disappointed with Pjax than with MDA. At least I will know that we tried the best.

Bonn1997 wrote:I would stay as far away from this as I could if I were Phil Jackson.

Maybe. But you are not him - where

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I would stay as far away from this as I could if I were Phil Jackson.

Maybe. But you are not him - where

But maybe I am!

Then maybe I don't want Phil Jackson

nixluva wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:Phil Jax isn't a miracle worker. He's a manager of title level talent. You'll end up disappointed if you think he can work miracles with teams that don't have best in league, elite talent. I'm more impressed with what Rick Carlisle did than I am with Jax. It's much easier to seem like a card shark when you have a loaded hand every game.

Whatever ...

10 rings and he will always have people like you say he always had a loaded hand. How'd the lakers do before PJax? After? In between?

But, its that opinion that hopefully makes PJax want to come here and prove something. He does have a huge ego.

I would much rather be disappointed with Pjax than with MDA. At least I will know that we tried the best.

I still can't give Jax that kind of credit. Yes he's a great coach, but let's not get it twisted, when you have a Kobe, Shaq or an MJ & Pippen that can just take over and make something out of nothing, that's not about coaching. Jax gets credit for getting his players to buy in and that's a valuable ability. He may be the best ever at that part of the game. Still when you talk about coming into a fight with a M1 Tank verses your competition that only has pistols, that is the kind of advantage Jax has had. Jax won't have that here in NY.

Besides Jax will have something MDA never had. A settled roster that has been together and not having all the trade drama and having to mix in new players that he doesn't know. Very unfair advantage when comparing the jobs they could do. If Jax had to coach 66 different players in less than 4 years how do you think he'd do? No coach has ever done that before!

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I would stay as far away from this as I could if I were Phil Jackson.

Maybe. But you are not him - where

But maybe I am!

Then maybe I don't want Phil Jackson

LOL!

nixluva wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:Phil Jax isn't a miracle worker. He's a manager of title level talent. You'll end up disappointed if you think he can work miracles with teams that don't have best in league, elite talent. I'm more impressed with what Rick Carlisle did than I am with Jax. It's much easier to seem like a card shark when you have a loaded hand every game.

Whatever ...

10 rings and he will always have people like you say he always had a loaded hand. How'd the lakers do before PJax? After? In between?

But, its that opinion that hopefully makes PJax want to come here and prove something. He does have a huge ego.

I would much rather be disappointed with Pjax than with MDA. At least I will know that we tried the best.

I still can't give Jax that kind of credit. Yes he's a great coach, but let's not get it twisted, when you have a Kobe, Shaq or an MJ & Pippen that can just take over and make something out of nothing, that's not about coaching. Jax gets credit for getting his players to buy in and that's a valuable ability. He may be the best ever at that part of the game. Still when you talk about coming into a fight with a M1 Tank verses your competition that only has pistols, that is the kind of advantage Jax has had. Jax won't have that here in NY.

Besides Jax will have something MDA never had. A settled roster that has been together and not having all the trade drama and having to mix in new players that he doesn't know. Very unfair advantage when comparing the jobs they could do. If Jax had to coach 66 different players in less than 4 years how do you think he'd do? No coach has ever done that before!

Nice argument Nix!

What did PJax do without Jordan in 1994? Went to the conference final and lost in 7 - would have won it if it were not for the Hue Hollins / Hubert Davis INFAMOUS call (I love Hue Hollins forever!). The bulls won 55 games and the year before with Jordan, they won 57!

Very stacked deck!! People are shamefully sad and in denial sometimes but that's life.