Bonn1997 wrote:

JCrusher wrote:the amare siging wasnt bad because we still won with that group and all we had to do was add a big man which we had much capspace for and then we all know whta happened next lol

We played like a .520 team with the Amare signing. We were a 29 win team before the trade. Signing someone with his mileage and injury history made sense if you thought there was a quick fix. It didn't make sense if you realized the team needed real rebuilding.

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yellowboy90 wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

misterearl wrote:The problem with our stars is their flaws are frustrating.

As gifted a scorer as Carmelo is, and he IS trying, he does NOT have the lateral quickness to defend with authority. No WAY Paul Pierce should KILL us like that. I could care less how much he scores. How well did he defend?

As rugged and competitive as Amar'e is, he is a below average passer, which kills the motion Lin generates. His hands have become suspect, as he seems to struggle catching and maneuvering the ball in traffic. Is it the goggles?

These flaws can be corrected. But it requires honesty and dedication to the team cause.

Knicks turnovers are public enemy number one.

Pierce got most of his points over Shump, Lin, and Smith. He barely hit a thing against Melo. Thats why they picked our D apart because we switch so much. Is Melo a locked down defender no(only at times) but he has played better defense this year and has been respectable. Although he still have those two or three brain fart moments. He is nowhere as bad as STAT.

i agree stat is bad but melo is not much betetr i've never seen him lock down anybody

of course not. Lol.

i just dont feel melo fits this team. stat gets on my nerves but he fits the offense more than melo does. We are much better on the run and in transistion. Thats nothing against melo he just isn't that type of player who likes to move uptempo style

Are you refering to Matador Amar'e of last year or this year who on D is like well a Matador but on O he turn into the bull and charges into the defender.

i never said amare has been great actually i have been just as critical of him as i have eben melo. But what have we really gained since we got melo to be fair

A built in scapegoat. It looks very bad I get it but things are not always as they seems. Just like this up- tempo notion. The knicks ran more against the Cs with Melo on the floor than without. Take Boston who big three doesn't like to run the floor a lot. Does that stop Rondo from pushing it? No. If Lin is willed enough to decline Melo Post ups then he is capable of running without Melo when he doesn't want to run and use him Like Boston uses Peirce(Just like in Denver), as the three point trailer. The way Lin likes to penetrate you need someone back anayway in case of a TO. I like Lin and he just needs to run the show like a Rondo does and MDA should command him to do so. Rondo was not a big name either but he is just a strong willed guy. I want Lin to do his thing and that includes getting his starts touches but he decides when they get the ball and when they do not. Just be the point. Also, I think the offense does work but the missed layups are covering up how well this offense is being run and thats on Melo mostly, few on Amar'e, Chandler, and etc. Melo definately has to get it together and has to defer play without the ball when Lin is in and post up when Lin is out. He has to mix his Celts game with his San Antonio game.

But like I said before though I do not care about the O. I care more about the D. Teams can get easy points because of Amar'e and Lin right now. Put Amar'e in the PnR and he is toast. Run Lin off screens and he is toast. I can live with missed jumpers and a few layups from Amar'e and Carmelo even Lin but at least one of them is playing decent defense. I do think it is more Amar'e than Lin on D though because all our guards get toast because STAT does not show or hedge and when he does he just fouls the other player. Amar'e should have fouled out of the game in the first half.

Knixkik wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

JCrusher wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

JCrusher wrote:the amare siging wasnt bad because we still won with that group and all we had to do was add a big man which we had much capspace for and then we all know whta happened next lol

We played like a .520 team with the Amare signing. We were a 29 win team before the trade. Signing someone with his mileage and injury history made sense if you thought there was a quick fix. It didn't make sense if you realized the team needed real rebuilding.

im not saying he was the answer but he does play better in that uptempo offense it seems and we still win in that offense even when he doesnt do great. Like I said i am very critical of amare but i dont at that time we needed talent

I don't think there was any chance of that working out well. You take a player with the wear and tear of a 33 year old and add him to a 29 win team? He's gonna be past his prime by the time you have a championship level supporting cast even in the best of scenarios.

Getting Stoudemire wasn't the right long term decision, but we can definitely see the value in it. He started the movement to getting good players to New York. Whether or not the outcome is good, the signing gave us light at the end of the tunnel.

misterearl wrote:Leadership is earned.

earthmansurfer wrote:At least (Carmelo) hit some shots the other night. Would be nice for him to hit shots and be more in the flow of the team. IF that happens, we got something special. That will open up things for Lin to penetrate and create shots for everyone else.

The San Antonio announcers had a field day describing the substandard defense played by the Knicks. The video of Amar'e sheepishly backing AWAY from Tony Parker on a drive, was as incrimnating as it gets.

"Stoudemire actually backed UP!"

If Tyson Chandler is THAT valuable then Amar'e AND Carmelo need to return their "Captain" parking spaces and privileges immediately.

Who is the Traffic Cop on this squad?

I agree, but you know they aren't giving that captain role to the 3rd highest paid player. Unfortunately there are the politics here to worry about.

At least we have another half of the season AND a tough schedule. We should not lose the 8th seed so we will be well tested for the playoffs. We might turn things around. CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS PLACE IF WE DON'T? Can you imagine if Melo pulls a groin again and we go on a tear? Not that I want that but whatever gets us to where we want.