MSG3 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:MSG3 wrote:http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&career=1&player_ids%5B%5D=215&player_ids%5B%5D=261There's a comparison between Melo and Vince Carter over the span of their careers. Very similar numbers. THey vary in certain areas due to their positions, ie more assists for the guard and more rebounds for the forward. Melo has bhetter shooting percentages but not by a lot. All in all very similar numbers.
What does this prove? Absolutely nothing. Vince never achieved much in his NBA career. Melo has yet to take his team to the heights we all want and expect. But to say Vince was far superior (Bonn) is a testament to how much you dislike Melo. And there's nothing wrong with disliking him to this point. So far it's hard to argue your longstanding judgement that he's no good for the Knicks.
I just think there's enough to show that when you put him on this roster it could be special. But he has to become a smarter ball player. I think he can and has shown a lot of flashes.
I cited statistics to justify my comments. I didn't just state subjective opinions. Give some info. (not a link with a thousand #s on it) if you want to question my conclusions.
Where did you cite even a single statistic? You mentioned "PER" and Win Shares during "prime years". What are prime ytears? Why can't you look at their complete body of work? And the link I posted compares both of the players to every statistics including the ones you mentioned, which are almost identical for both players.
If you're going to claim you cited numbers when you actaully didn't don't come down on me when I shared a link that showed incredibly thorough statistics to prove the point that STATISTICALLY there is barely a disparity between Melo and VC.
Don't be a baby....
OK, if you want to nit-pick, I referred to them but I didn't put the exact numbers in the post. Here they are:
Vince Carter
WS career: .145
WS best 3 years: .208, .184, .182
PER career: 20.5
PER best 3 years: 25.0, 24.5, 23.4
Carmelo Anthony
WS career: .126
WS best 3 years: .153, .145, .140
PER career: 20.2
PER best 3 years: 22.2, 22.1, 22.0
Why am I looking at prime years? The career #s (which still do favor Vince in the case of WS and marginally in the case of PER) give a distorted picture because Vince has played for several years beyond his prime. Also, in my comparisons of the players, I said Vince *in his prime* was significantly better than Carmelo.