mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think there is a legit concern with the chemistry in the starting 5. Im kind of thinking back prior to Lin when we were not good. There is something wrong--balance-wise. Yes they can look good--but I dont know if this is the ultimate starting unit for this team. I think well be ok but there are a LOT of moving parts here. I think we could use another athletic strong 4/5 and a good player who specializes in defense is going to get minutes cit. Walker wont play

I think your right about chemistry. My solution...bring Amare off the bench, insert Jeffries and the defense and chemistry in the first unit will be ok. Amare was better off when he was playing center last season which, might have a little bit (not much) of the dip in production. Bring him off the bench at center to anchor the 2nd unit.

i think amar'e off the bench is what needs to happen. but it can't happen. it. can't. happen.

d'antoni needs amar'e on his side for locker room stuff. even tyson calls amar'e the team leader.

there's just no way it can happen.

i think best case scenario d'antoni plays amar'e like 28 minutes to keep him "fresh".

Sad when your fearless leader has no interest in playing defense or boxing out.

looking at his lateral movement, i'm worried it's more a case of "is no longer able to"...

but, yeah, you have a point. BUT, if you listen to the player's comments all year, amar'e has been preaching d'antoni's system - almost sounds like he's talking to melo directly. the knicks need someone to talk to melo. in that sense amar'e is needed.

Amare seems like a good guy but he is more of the problem than Melo. Melo plays defense (at least sometimes) and I think will eventually blend. You can't be a true leader if it does not start on Defense. Tyson is a leader because he quaterbacks the defense. Amare just backs away on opposing layups and dunks. And, can he once put his ASS on a guy and BOX OUT!! What the Phuck!!

NOT COOL!

sadly, i agree.

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think there is a legit concern with the chemistry in the starting 5. Im kind of thinking back prior to Lin when we were not good. There is something wrong--balance-wise. Yes they can look good--but I dont know if this is the ultimate starting unit for this team. I think well be ok but there are a LOT of moving parts here. I think we could use another athletic strong 4/5 and a good player who specializes in defense is going to get minutes cit. Walker wont play

I think your right about chemistry. My solution...bring Amare off the bench, insert Jeffries and the defense and chemistry in the first unit will be ok. Amare was better off when he was playing center last season which, might have a little bit (not much) of the dip in production. Bring him off the bench at center to anchor the 2nd unit.

i think amar'e off the bench is what needs to happen. but it can't happen. it. can't. happen.

d'antoni needs amar'e on his side for locker room stuff. even tyson calls amar'e the team leader.

there's just no way it can happen.

i think best case scenario d'antoni plays amar'e like 28 minutes to keep him "fresh".

Sad when your fearless leader has no interest in playing defense or boxing out.

looking at his lateral movement, i'm worried it's more a case of "is no longer able to"...

but, yeah, you have a point. BUT, if you listen to the player's comments all year, amar'e has been preaching d'antoni's system - almost sounds like he's talking to melo directly. the knicks need someone to talk to melo. in that sense amar'e is needed.

Amare seems like a good guy but he is more of the problem than Melo. Melo plays defense (at least sometimes) and I think will eventually blend. You can't be a true leader if it does not start on Defense. Tyson is a leader because he quaterbacks the defense. Amare just backs away on opposing layups and dunks. And, can he once put his ASS on a guy and BOX OUT!! What the Phuck!!

NOT COOL!

sadly, i agree.

Funny that when Amare was doing well last year, everyone was saying "so glad we did not get Bosh and got Amare - Bosh sucks!". I said, maybe they should wait a season or 2 before making that proclamation.

How I drool over the thought of Bosh over Amare. In every facet of the game. Sad ... I still hope and believe that Amare will do better, he is a notoriously slow starter but he will never again sniff Bosh's jock strap.

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think there is a legit concern with the chemistry in the starting 5. Im kind of thinking back prior to Lin when we were not good. There is something wrong--balance-wise. Yes they can look good--but I dont know if this is the ultimate starting unit for this team. I think well be ok but there are a LOT of moving parts here. I think we could use another athletic strong 4/5 and a good player who specializes in defense is going to get minutes cit. Walker wont play

I think your right about chemistry. My solution...bring Amare off the bench, insert Jeffries and the defense and chemistry in the first unit will be ok. Amare was better off when he was playing center last season which, might have a little bit (not much) of the dip in production. Bring him off the bench at center to anchor the 2nd unit.

i think amar'e off the bench is what needs to happen. but it can't happen. it. can't. happen.

d'antoni needs amar'e on his side for locker room stuff. even tyson calls amar'e the team leader.

there's just no way it can happen.

i think best case scenario d'antoni plays amar'e like 28 minutes to keep him "fresh".

Sad when your fearless leader has no interest in playing defense or boxing out.

looking at his lateral movement, i'm worried it's more a case of "is no longer able to"...

but, yeah, you have a point. BUT, if you listen to the player's comments all year, amar'e has been preaching d'antoni's system - almost sounds like he's talking to melo directly. the knicks need someone to talk to melo. in that sense amar'e is needed.

Amare seems like a good guy but he is more of the problem than Melo. Melo plays defense (at least sometimes) and I think will eventually blend. You can't be a true leader if it does not start on Defense. Tyson is a leader because he quaterbacks the defense. Amare just backs away on opposing layups and dunks. And, can he once put his ASS on a guy and BOX OUT!! What the Phuck!!

NOT COOL!

sadly, i agree.

Funny that when Amare was doing well last year, everyone was saying "so glad we did not get Bosh and got Amare - Bosh sucks!". I said, maybe they should wait a season or 2 before making that proclamation.

How I drool over the thought of Bosh over Amare. In every facet of the game. Sad ... I still hope and believe that Amare will do better, he is a notoriously slow starter but he will never again sniff Bosh's jock strap.

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think there is a legit concern with the chemistry in the starting 5. Im kind of thinking back prior to Lin when we were not good. There is something wrong--balance-wise. Yes they can look good--but I dont know if this is the ultimate starting unit for this team. I think well be ok but there are a LOT of moving parts here. I think we could use another athletic strong 4/5 and a good player who specializes in defense is going to get minutes cit. Walker wont play

I think your right about chemistry. My solution...bring Amare off the bench, insert Jeffries and the defense and chemistry in the first unit will be ok. Amare was better off when he was playing center last season which, might have a little bit (not much) of the dip in production. Bring him off the bench at center to anchor the 2nd unit.

i think amar'e off the bench is what needs to happen. but it can't happen. it. can't. happen.

d'antoni needs amar'e on his side for locker room stuff. even tyson calls amar'e the team leader.

there's just no way it can happen.

i think best case scenario d'antoni plays amar'e like 28 minutes to keep him "fresh".

Sad when your fearless leader has no interest in playing defense or boxing out.

looking at his lateral movement, i'm worried it's more a case of "is no longer able to"...

but, yeah, you have a point. BUT, if you listen to the player's comments all year, amar'e has been preaching d'antoni's system - almost sounds like he's talking to melo directly. the knicks need someone to talk to melo. in that sense amar'e is needed.

Amare seems like a good guy but he is more of the problem than Melo. Melo plays defense (at least sometimes) and I think will eventually blend. You can't be a true leader if it does not start on Defense. Tyson is a leader because he quaterbacks the defense. Amare just backs away on opposing layups and dunks. And, can he once put his ASS on a guy and BOX OUT!! What the Phuck!!

NOT COOL!

sadly, i agree.

Funny that when Amare was doing well last year, everyone was saying "so glad we did not get Bosh and got Amare - Bosh sucks!". I said, maybe they should wait a season or 2 before making that proclamation.

How I drool over the thought of Bosh over Amare. In every facet of the game. Sad ... I still hope and believe that Amare will do better, he is a notoriously slow starter but he will never again sniff Bosh's jock strap.

mrKnickShot wrote:If - Big IF. He has not been doing any of those things so far.

What can we do but hope his offense comes around? It doesn't seem like after this many years in the league he'll suddenly become more aware defensively and box out/fight for rebounding position if it's not already a reflex. for him.

The Knicks have no plan. Never have never will. Just think for a moment without this miracle they feel into with Lin they were missing the playoffs and likely would have been beat out by the Cavs. There is a reason you don't use your amnesty on a guy with a one year deal. Because there is a good chance if the medical staff with the Suns didn't sign off on Amare there was a serious problem,

And let's cut the **** about Amare taking on the challenge. The bulls wanted boozer and bosh was going to the heat which left amare with NJ and New York to choose from. He wanted to be the man not lead a team. If he wanted to lead a team he would play defense. The guy is one of the biggest chumps in the entire league. He doesn't box out, he doesn't fit through screens and never takes a charge and without his offensive production he isn't a top 40 player in the NBA.

So at the end of the day there guys like Lee, Milshap, Scola, etc will be more valuable than Amare. It's sad to see what has happened to his game. He was a tremendous offensive player, but his explosion is gone, he gets blocked by guards and small forwards and can't hit his jumper.

So there is no over reaction on this board. We still suck, we have shown signs of being a team that can contend then we follow it up with losses to lottery teams. Go through our schedule we should be well above .500. Everyone is trying to gel, adding pieces, dealing with injuries. It's becoming way to common to settle for **** basketball.

When you get out hustled there is no excuse.

nyk4ever wrote:melo and lin looked fine together last night - if anything melo tried too hard to fit into the offense, if melo isn't rusty and converts on like 4 out of the 6 layups he had, this game is a much different story. melo and lin looked good out there together, melo had a few beautiful passes for assists and the first team started off the game very nicely. melo was not a ball-stopper in the least, whenever he got the ball, he made quick decisions with the it and didn't really venture out of the offense. he's rusty, so there's obviously going to be an adjustment for him, especially now with the team changing so drastically since the last time he was out there with them. you can do all the bridge-jumping, all the bitching and moaning, but when it comes down to it, the team ran into a hot player (deron williams) who had a big game and killed us. they also made a million 3's, what are you going to do? sometimes you run into a team like that, especially with a top player with a chip on his shoulder.

i just don't know whats happened here, maybe it's the influx of all new people but god damn. people need to chill the **** out.

Best post last two days

umynot wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:melo and lin looked fine together last night - if anything melo tried too hard to fit into the offense, if melo isn't rusty and converts on like 4 out of the 6 layups he had, this game is a much different story. melo and lin looked good out there together, melo had a few beautiful passes for assists and the first team started off the game very nicely. melo was not a ball-stopper in the least, whenever he got the ball, he made quick decisions with the it and didn't really venture out of the offense. he's rusty, so there's obviously going to be an adjustment for him, especially now with the team changing so drastically since the last time he was out there with them. you can do all the bridge-jumping, all the bitching and moaning, but when it comes down to it, the team ran into a hot player (deron williams) who had a big game and killed us. they also made a million 3's, what are you going to do? sometimes you run into a team like that, especially with a top player with a chip on his shoulder.

i just don't know whats happened here, maybe it's the influx of all new people but god damn. people need to chill the **** out.

Best post last two days

Absolutely POD material