Grunfeld-Tapscott-Laydon-Isiah-Donnie-Grunwald all in the last 10 years.

Currently, there is no voice. There is no one building a culture. Dolan has them all on an interim basis and compliant to his egotistical whim.

Great thread title.

You have Melo, who I think will gravitate to a brand of style that is good for him, his brand and longevity. Is this no constant to his career?

Melo, his statistics and maintaining his star.

Donnie did not want it and when it happened, he left.

MDA did not want it.

We all know you need superstar talent to win, but there are others that could have been had. Paul and Howard came up. Like my momma always said, "Son, there is always another sale!".

Now we got Grunwald and MDA all expiring, weak with expiring juice cards, and no one to even publicly support its coach or the team.

No voice.

MDA should go upstairs and ask if he is building something or not. If not, let him go. If so, then empower him to put his footprint on the franchise. Thats not going to happen because this is not a "Team".

Its a show.

nixluva wrote:Stephen A. doesn't know that the Mike has made adjustments? What do you call slowing the offense down and trying to use Melo as a Point Forward to try and cover for the lack of a PG? In previous seasons he's adjusted to the roster too. How soon we forget that he had to change things when Duhon refused to push the ball. He had to change things when he realized Gallo and Chandler weren't ready to play at a SSOL pace. This is just more nonsense knee jerk reactions to a complex situation. Stephen A. like a lot of media guys LOVES when coaches get fired. They love the drama and the new story lines and really they are ALWAYS the 1st ones to push the idea of a coach being on the brink of being fired.

Cheez Doodles has an agenda. I try to ignore his ramblings. They are kinda entertaining but not much else.

anrst wrote:well that's on him then. poor mike, he has a team that doesn't fit his precious system. you're making millions to coach what you have. greg anthony wasn't showtime, but riley made it work.

chandler, douglas and shumpert are defensive players. are you telling me those 3 along with melo and stat can't get stops? look, it's not all on mike. the players aren't doing their job either. but enough excuses. everyone must pay, and is the most readily available to take a hit ... that doesn't mean he is the most to blame, the team is poorly constructed, but so are a lot of teams that still find ways to win.

Pat riley had 3 first ballot hall of famers when he coach the lakers, and he had arguably the best player (magic) in the league running his offense, and kareem, and worthy..are you kidding me..

The knick squad he took over had a perfect balance and adequate depth..

MDA has no depth, no pg, and anything but a balance roster..Don't give me a car with no gas, and tell me to get there how ever i can..

Nalod wrote:
Melo playing slow reminds me of when Ewing's mutiny exiled Don Nelson after 17 games.

Ewings juice card was full as it was his contract year.

Dare the knicks run without him would damage his stats and diminish his negotiation leverage.

We made a deal with the devil. This is who we are.

No leadership top to bottom.

Somebody can go into the lockerroom and install the proper mindset that this is how its going to be, and run the system as the coaching staff wants.

Instead we have a GM and coach whose contract expires at seasons end.

Amare calling out other players for not running the sytem. Seems like a shot at Melo.

Just my take.

I agree completely. The only thing I complain about MDA is his stubborness with TD and Bibby. People complain that he does not make adjustments. Someone already posted, MDA has made adjustments. We resulted in Bully Ball and our Bully just could not carry us.

This is why I was so fed up with Donnie's departure as it truly indicated how screwed this franchise is under Dolan.

Under Walsh, everyone was working together and evident progress was being made. Now, you have several authority figures who truly have no "authority" and are doing what they can to keep their jobs. This is all on Dolan....

I would be sad to see D'Antoni go as I truly believe he is the best offensive mind in basketball and I love that his offense preaches efficiency but I just don't see how he can win here. He has been given a faulty roster and has little/no support in the front office. On top of that, his best player has been hurt for most of the season at this point and clearly this team was not built to be deep enough to withstand such an injury.

s3231 wrote:Agree with Nalod 100%.

This is why I was so fed up with Donnie's departure as it truly indicated how screwed this franchise is under Dolan.

Under Walsh, everyone was working together and evident progress was being made. Now, you have several authority figures who truly have no "authority" and are doing what they can to keep their jobs. This is all on Dolan....

I would be sad to see D'Antoni go as I truly believe he is the best offensive mind in basketball and I love that his offense preaches efficiency but I just don't see how he can win here. He has been given a faulty roster and has little/no support in the front office. On top of that, his best player has been hurt for most of the season at this point and clearly this team was not built to be deep enough to withstand such an injury.

To me, its amazing how quickly all of that hard work under Donnie came undone. All it took was a single trade and the franchise is set back at least 3-5 years.

I have really lost a lot of respect for Melo too. The guy forced a trade so he could get paid, even though he says he wanted to win. The team was gutted so he could collect a pay check and now we have another dysfunctional product on the court.

Melo coming home = Marbury pt. II? I certainly hope not.

Nalod wrote:

OasisBU wrote:

s3231 wrote:Agree with Nalod 100%.

This is why I was so fed up with Donnie's departure as it truly indicated how screwed this franchise is under Dolan.

Under Walsh, everyone was working together and evident progress was being made. Now, you have several authority figures who truly have no "authority" and are doing what they can to keep their jobs. This is all on Dolan....

I would be sad to see D'Antoni go as I truly believe he is the best offensive mind in basketball and I love that his offense preaches efficiency but I just don't see how he can win here. He has been given a faulty roster and has little/no support in the front office. On top of that, his best player has been hurt for most of the season at this point and clearly this team was not built to be deep enough to withstand such an injury.

To me, its amazing how quickly all of that hard work under Donnie came undone. All it took was a single trade and the franchise is set back at least 3-5 years.

I have really lost a lot of respect for Melo too. The guy forced a trade so he could get paid, even though he says he wanted to win. The team was gutted so he could collect a pay check and now we have another dysfunctional product on the court.

Melo coming home = Marbury pt. II? I certainly hope not.

stop believing in what they say, its what they do that matters.

Melo or MDA is unwilling to bend.

My hope is that winning matters. That means he might not be the star night in and night out.

Jordan and Kobe evolved from high scoring players into icons of winning. If Melo wants to be a champion, he will have to adapt.

Maybe in the long run that is why Ewing never reached a champion goal. He was a hard working player but was unyielding. They made the finals once. ONly once.

Great poing about Ewing "not willing to bend"

No coach could get him to pass out of the double/triple team to the open men on the perimeter.

And as much as I love Ewing and respect that he brought us back from the Abyss, he was not enough of an adaptable player and thats what set him apart from Hakeem.

And that DAMN finger roll in Indy.!!!!!

Total continuety, accountabilty and a long range plan.

This is the extent of my starphuch coach/GM.

Its why I hope we have not replaced Grunwald yet.

Save a spot for Bill Bradley on the Cablevison/MSG board of directors.

Bippity10 wrote:hey I have an idea. Let's fire D'Antoni and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach.

yeah but what's after that?

Bippity10 wrote:

martin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:hey I have an idea. Let's fire D'Antoni and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach.

yeah but what's after that?

The world ends

It's the freakin Twilight Zone in this place!