ATrain wrote:

"We all know what's going on," one team executive said recently. "Who can't see the handwriting on the wall? When you're paying guys that kind of money, the coach who's not winning games always goes before the players. That's anywhere, but especially in a market like New York. There are no surprises here."

I don't understand why this is so hard to comprehend for some..

Because it's a knee-jerk reaction.

Everyone sees what's wrong and it's not D'Antoni.

First winning season since Van Gundy in 2001. Then you cripple his legs.

We can't get fidgety now and make hurried decisions. You stick with Mike D'Antoni and you will not regret it when Knicks are running through the league for 60 wins next season.

They will not see the solution but push for a more provocative story.

The wise thing to do is stick with D'Antoni. Give him his legs back.

Guy had Felton playing borderline All-Star on a winning team.

First winning season since Van Gundy a decade ago.

Then you take the point guard off his team. You throw the point guard position away and expect him to fill it with a 40 year old Mike Bibby.

Nalod wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Ok so CHandler was adowngrade from Turiaf and JJ. Really? Melo trade was not good but that ship has sailed. I don't think that not playing defense turns us into an offensive juggernaut. Do you really think that? It's not like we've had a world class defensive team this year too.

Nalod wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

Nalod wrote:Maybe was right?

We don't need a defensive coach!

seems we did better playing little defense.

Just saying.

Sure...that's it don't play defense. The magic solution. That's what all good teams do. Let's get rid of Tyson Chandler.

Well, yeah, add melo....Team degrades.....Add Chandler, Further degradation.

Sarcasm. Desperate for Solutions.

But in real scheme of things, maybe better to play to your strengths then progress from there.

I would appear the is team is ambitious and thats not a bad thing. Its not working, but there are many reasons. Im sure fans know better and better answers.

Better to forge thru with a plan or just play a simplified system by which make fans happier in the short run until Phil Jax comes on board?

Someone is gonna have to get this right and the players will have to respond.

Proof is on the court, until otherwise.

On paper is one thing. What happens on the court is another.

But, lets be real, I have moved on. Im not watching the games until they play better. Not have to win, just get some chemistry.

The product is out of kilter for now. Like musical show where the singers are very good but together they don't fit.

Bring in the right singers or keep working on it until it fits.

I think you keep working on what you got.

Melo can adapt. Its just basketball.

knicks1248 wrote:Is anybody paying attention to a wide open fields waiting for a 3 in his sweet spot, but toney eneds up blowing a layup

Is anybody noticing on a simple PnR our pg's can't get anybody the ball, weather it's the sceener rolling, or the wide open three in the corner. And if they do find them, 9 times out of 10 it's either to late(results in a TO) or a contested shot..

Record the games and look at them a second time, and you can easily see why we shoot so many three's..Our PG's miss the cutter on every screen play, miss amare curling to the basket, you only have a second to get that guy rolling to the basket, and we miss amare all the time..

No need to rewatch the nightmare, I see it. Douglas is worthless as far as I'm concerned. Nice guy, but I cannot stomach watching him try to play professional basketball, whether at the 1 or 2. We already have one guy like that: JJ.

Anji wrote:I look forward to seeing what Mike Woodson can bring to this team. Maybe some more set plays and offense. Also maybe some post ups and decent rotations.

You ever see a Woodson coached team play? Go back and look at the offense the Hawks had under Woodson.
careful what you wish for.

During the 2009-10 season, Hawks owners implored then-coach Mike Woodson to give more minutes to rookie guard Jeff Teague and less to All-Star guard Joe Johnson. The owners also wanted Woodson to steer the Hawks away from the isolation-heavy offense, the people knowledgeable of the conversations said.

Woodson didn't do any of those things to the owners' satisfaction, which were major reasons he was not retained after the season

s3231 wrote:For the people saying that D'Antoni should have drastically changed the offense once he realized he had no PG, when would he have had the time to do that?

We literally traded for Tyson Chandler as training camp opened (a shortened TC at that) and you expect him to implement a brand new offense on days when we're not playing 4 games in 5 days? Come on, there was no time for that. Not to mention, no one on here thought Douglas would be this bad and we were all hoping he could at least keep us going until Davis stepped in to run SSOL.

Plus, D'Antoni actually did try to adjust to life without a decent PG early on by calling Melo his "point forward" and having the ball run through him.

To say that the guy hasn't been trying to adjust is ridiculous. If Melo is healthy, we're probably a game or 2 over .500 at this point at worst and hoping that Davis could take us to the next level. This team wasn't build to withstand a major injury to one of our top guns and we're seeing why....

When you are depending on 2nd round picks to be good rotation players, you have no depth. When a rookie performs well and earns a rotation spot, that is supposed to be a bonus, not a given.

You're using REASON and LOGIC. There are those around here that will say your making excuses. In their world it's only Black or White. There are no Grey areas.

misterearl wrote:

sealy wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Is anybody paying attention to a wide open fields waiting for a 3 in his sweet spot, but toney eneds up blowing a layup

Is anybody noticing on a simple PnR our pg's can't get anybody the ball, weather it's the sceener rolling, or the wide open three in the corner. And if they do find them, 9 times out of 10 it's either to late(results in a TO) or a contested shot..

Record the games and look at them a second time, and you can easily see why we shoot so many three's..Our PG's miss the cutter on every screen play, miss amare curling to the basket, you only have a second to get that guy rolling to the basket, and we miss amare all the time..

No need to rewatch the nightmare, I see it. Douglas is worthless as far as I'm concerned. Nice guy, but I cannot stomach watching him try to play professional basketball, whether at the 1 or 2. We already have one guy like that: JJ.

Strictly Business

Sealy - The Answer Man moves that we get eliminate the "nice guy" preface for ANY Knicks player. Character is a nice bonus, but at the end of the day all that matters is skill sets meshing as one.

Douglas is simply another player with such pronounced limitations that he does not help make anyone better.

To paraphrase the immortal words of former 49ers head man, Mike Singletary, "I'd rather play with (four) people and just get penalized all the way until we have to do something else rather than play with 9 when I know that right now that everyone is not sold out to be a part of this team... It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win."

STATMELO wrote:D'Antoni knew he would have no PG yet he never implemented a motion offense to help us out. I never liked this guy because he never preached defense, didn't substitute right, benched impact players (Nate Robinson) and fell in love with bad ones (Chris Duhon). NYK management is gonna see how the team does when Baron Davis comes back. If we continue to lose he'll be fire we have a more than capable assistant in Mike Woodson.

He hoped Duhon would return to the player he was when he 1st signed in NY. Duhon was ballin then. That's his problem. He barely adjusts or adapts. I think he's tried with this group but he can't change the way melo or stat play and they cant create or get Amy good looks