knicks1248 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

sealy wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:watched that baron interview.. it was an absolute pleasure to listen to him talk about the team and what not only he can bring but what the team as a whole can bring. if anyone thought not having a real PG run this team wasn't a big deal, just by listening to baron you can tell he's going to make a difference. offensively, all he could talk about was having an offense that works for everyone and how he can help get melo and amear the touches they need. i just hope and pray he's healthy, if he is, we are the luckiest team this offseason to have gotten him.

"our offense will catch up to our defense" wow, haven't heard that in NY in a long time lol.

Yeah he seems very even keeled and I see no doubt that he'll be the vocal leader of this team going forward.

Legacy

When professional athletes can see the end of their careers the become more aware of goals larger than individual recognition. Maturity kicks in and the minutes are savored. At 32 years old, Baron sees New York as his legacy. The choice made perfect sense. New York is his opportunity to make a dramatic career statement - which is the reason you go professional in the first place. Certainly, the money is good, the locker rooms are carpeted and the hotel rooms are all first class - but at the end of the day, all that matters is "were you a winner?"

The last time Baron was in the playoffs, 2007, he made a nice impression. Averaging 25, 7 assists and 5 rebounds does not suck that bad. But that was Golden State. Do the same thing in New York and you get to host Saturday Night Live.

Which he would probably be pretty good at.

I hope what your saying comes true..were pinning our hopes on this dude who's been worse then Camby, as far as staying healthy..a career 30% 3 point shooter, and not much better from 2pts.

Where is no fish in the lake - the lobster is a fish...

misterearl wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Baron post-practice interview on MSG:

http://www.msg.com/videos/baron-davis-post-practice-123-1.81509

Struck by Baron Davis' awareness. Note how he changes from talking about joy and freedom - to talking about the gift of teamwork that he brings to the table.

From his words, one can sense that he has a renewed appreciation of time... and opportunity to share the floor with more problematic talent than anywhere he has been.

Davis KNOWS in his heart he can be an agent of change. His eyes dance and are already looking for an open man. Note how he catches movement off camera near the end of the interview. He never loses his train of thought. Back into character.

The only caveat is his health. and the ability to wake up one more morning - with the ability to walk erect.

agree completely. he knows he can do this. if his body doesn't betray him. your new york knicks... never a dull moment.

knicks1248 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

sealy wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:watched that baron interview.. it was an absolute pleasure to listen to him talk about the team and what not only he can bring but what the team as a whole can bring. if anyone thought not having a real PG run this team wasn't a big deal, just by listening to baron you can tell he's going to make a difference. offensively, all he could talk about was having an offense that works for everyone and how he can help get melo and amear the touches they need. i just hope and pray he's healthy, if he is, we are the luckiest team this offseason to have gotten him.

"our offense will catch up to our defense" wow, haven't heard that in NY in a long time lol.

Yeah he seems very even keeled and I see no doubt that he'll be the vocal leader of this team going forward.

Legacy

When professional athletes can see the end of their careers the become more aware of goals larger than individual recognition. Maturity kicks in and the minutes are savored. At 32 years old, Baron sees New York as his legacy. The choice made perfect sense. New York is his opportunity to make a dramatic career statement - which is the reason you go professional in the first place. Certainly, the money is good, the locker rooms are carpeted and the hotel rooms are all first class - but at the end of the day, all that matters is "were you a winner?"

The last time Baron was in the playoffs, 2007, he made a nice impression. Averaging 25, 7 assists and 5 rebounds does not suck that bad. But that was Golden State. Do the same thing in New York and you get to host Saturday Night Live.

Which he would probably be pretty good at.

I hope what your saying comes true... were pinning our hopes on this dude who's been worse then Camby, as far as staying healthy..a career 30% 3 point shooter, and not much better from 2pts.

The Curse Of Bernard King?

knicks1248 - there was no prediction intended or implied. The fact that Baron has not stepped on a basketball court in nine (9) months is sobering. A body can lose a lot of muscle memory in that time. It is a a huge leap from being able to walk without pain - to sprinting on a hard surface four nights in one week, in four different cities.

The upside is that Baron's mind is sharper than anything we have on the roster. We have few players who understand angles and who KNOW, intuitively, where they are in relationship to others. That, muchachas, is the fundamental problem with this band of strangers.

Forget the stats... The best thing Baron can do is direct traffic for 20 minutes a night.

Pass the Advil.

misterearl wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Baron post-practice interview on MSG:

http://www.msg.com/videos/baron-davis-post-practice-123-1.81509

Struck by Baron Davis' awareness. Note how he changes from talking about joy and freedom - to talking about the gift of teamwork that he brings to the table.

From his words, one can sense that he has a renewed appreciation of time... and opportunity to share the floor with more problematic talent than anywhere he has been.

Davis KNOWS in his heart he can be an agent of change. His eyes dance and are already looking for an open man. Note how he catches movement off camera near the end of the interview. He never loses his train of thought. Back into character.

The only caveat is his health. and the ability to wake up one more morning - with the ability to walk erect.

The best.

Nalod wrote:Baron got this SHIT under control!

That is a really cool pic! Some photoshop talented person able to give the guy a beard and the hyena #7? ^^

misterearl wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

sealy wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:watched that baron interview.. it was an absolute pleasure to listen to him talk about the team and what not only he can bring but what the team as a whole can bring. if anyone thought not having a real PG run this team wasn't a big deal, just by listening to baron you can tell he's going to make a difference. offensively, all he could talk about was having an offense that works for everyone and how he can help get melo and amear the touches they need. i just hope and pray he's healthy, if he is, we are the luckiest team this offseason to have gotten him.

"our offense will catch up to our defense" wow, haven't heard that in NY in a long time lol.

Yeah he seems very even keeled and I see no doubt that he'll be the vocal leader of this team going forward.

Legacy

When professional athletes can see the end of their careers the become more aware of goals larger than individual recognition. Maturity kicks in and the minutes are savored. At 32 years old, Baron sees New York as his legacy. The choice made perfect sense. New York is his opportunity to make a dramatic career statement - which is the reason you go professional in the first place. Certainly, the money is good, the locker rooms are carpeted and the hotel rooms are all first class - but at the end of the day, all that matters is "were you a winner?"

The last time Baron was in the playoffs, 2007, he made a nice impression. Averaging 25, 7 assists and 5 rebounds does not suck that bad. But that was Golden State. Do the same thing in New York and you get to host Saturday Night Live.

Which he would probably be pretty good at.

I hope what your saying comes true... were pinning our hopes on this dude who's been worse then Camby, as far as staying healthy..a career 30% 3 point shooter, and not much better from 2pts.

The Curse Of Bernard King?

knicks1248 - there was no prediction intended or implied. The fact that Baron has not stepped on a basketball court in nine (9) months is sobering. A body can lose a lot of muscle memory in that time. It is a a huge leap from being able to walk without pain - to sprinting on a hard surface four nights in one week, in four different cities.

The upside is that Baron's mind is sharper than anything we have on the roster. We have few players who understand angles and who KNOW, intuitively, where they are in relationship to others. That, muchachas, is the fundamental problem with this band of strangers.

Forget the stats... The best thing Baron can do is direct traffic for 20 minutes a night.

Pass the Advil.

Your kidding yourself If you think we only need a sub par davis to make this thing work.. We need him for 30 mins avg 13ppg 4rb and 10ast..playing solid d

knicks1248 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

misterearl wrote:

sealy wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:watched that baron interview.. it was an absolute pleasure to listen to him talk about the team and what not only he can bring but what the team as a whole can bring. if anyone thought not having a real PG run this team wasn't a big deal, just by listening to baron you can tell he's going to make a difference. offensively, all he could talk about was having an offense that works for everyone and how he can help get melo and amear the touches they need. i just hope and pray he's healthy, if he is, we are the luckiest team this offseason to have gotten him.

"our offense will catch up to our defense" wow, haven't heard that in NY in a long time lol.

Yeah he seems very even keeled and I see no doubt that he'll be the vocal leader of this team going forward.

Legacy

When professional athletes can see the end of their careers the become more aware of goals larger than individual recognition. Maturity kicks in and the minutes are savored. At 32 years old, Baron sees New York as his legacy. The choice made perfect sense. New York is his opportunity to make a dramatic career statement - which is the reason you go professional in the first place. Certainly, the money is good, the locker rooms are carpeted and the hotel rooms are all first class - but at the end of the day, all that matters is "were you a winner?"

The last time Baron was in the playoffs, 2007, he made a nice impression. Averaging 25, 7 assists and 5 rebounds does not suck that bad. But that was Golden State. Do the same thing in New York and you get to host Saturday Night Live.

Which he would probably be pretty good at.

I hope what your saying comes true... were pinning our hopes on this dude who's been worse then Camby, as far as staying healthy..a career 30% 3 point shooter, and not much better from 2pts.

The Curse Of Bernard King?

knicks1248 - there was no prediction intended or implied. The fact that Baron has not stepped on a basketball court in nine (9) months is sobering. A body can lose a lot of muscle memory in that time. It is a a huge leap from being able to walk without pain - to sprinting on a hard surface four nights in one week, in four different cities.

The upside is that Baron's mind is sharper than anything we have on the roster. We have few players who understand angles and who KNOW, intuitively, where they are in relationship to others. That, muchachas, is the fundamental problem with this band of strangers.

Forget the stats... The best thing Baron can do is direct traffic for 20 minutes a night.

Pass the Advil.

Your kidding yourself If you think we only need a sub par davis to make this thing work.. We need him for 30 mins avg 13ppg 4rb and 10ast..playing solid d

1248 - we need more than Baron Davis to make the thing swing. We are missing a skill forward (Extra E), another lead guard (Mike Bibby is 87 years old), and a 6'11 stunt man for Amare Stoudemire not named Jared Jeffries.

If you think a seriously injured player who hasn't stepped on the court for 9 months can saunter on an NBA battlefield and play 30 minutes, (and manufacture a double double inside a brutal schedule) you are more delusional than Larry Brown thought Trevor Ariza was.

flipkid wrote:During the interview Baron said that just 2-3 months ago he was wondering if he'd be playing ball again, let alone walking straight.

Seems like he was fine during a charity game in late November http://ballislife.com/baron-davis-charity-game-mix-demar-derozan-james-harden-dorell-wright-many-more/

I think he actually injured his back in that charity game. Which they may have been trying to keep quiet, because I think the Cavs might have been able to void his contract if that came out.

crzymdups wrote:

misterearl wrote:1248 - we need more than Baron Davis to make the thing swing. We are missing a skill forward (Extra E), another lead guard (Mike Bibby is 87 years old), and a 6'11 stunt man for Amare Stoudemire not named Jared Jeffries.

If you think a seriously injured player who hasn't stepped on the court for 9 months can saunter on an NBA battlefield and play 30 minutes, (and manufacture a double double inside a brutal schedule) you are more delusional than Larry Brown thought Trevor Ariza was.

Agree about Baron needing to play limited minutes. I think one way to maximize his impact would be to play him during the stretches Melo rests and Amar'e is featured during the game. Usually Melo rests at the beginning of the second and fourth quarters and Amar'e and Shump are the offense. Have Baron play with those two and get Amar'e some easy looks. Then switch to a different look when Melo comes back on the floor.

Though I'm sure Baron will be in at cruchtime before long. One thing I worry about is MDA can't seem to help himself from playing guys too many minutes. He played McGrady, what 42 minutes in his first game as a Knick? It was a great game, but McGrady broke down soon after. I hope D'Antoni is realistic about the minutes Baron can play.

And anyone who puts tie the impact Baron will and can have on this team to actual stats is ridiculous. So he'll only help if it's 13ppg and 10apg. What if it's 14ppg and 7.6apg? Sheesh. Ridiculous, 1248. It's not about stats, it's about having a floor general directing traffic and not delivering the ball to Amar'e or Melo or Tyson until they're in prime position to score the ball and get some easy baskets and get some flow to the offense. Passing is contagious, hitting shots can also be contagious. Baron can have a domino effect on the team in that regard.

Excited for his first game, but hope they don't rush him back. Also, it might be a little weird if they debut him in Cleveland. A) because Cleveland gifted him to us and B) that's where Marbury debuted. I don't like that fearful symmetry.

I'm on board with all of this. I think D'Antoni needs to consider giving Bibby some additional backup minutes, playing Lin, or picking/trading for another PG (Tinsley/Sessions/etc) to help Baron get back into the flow of things.

The TD experiment is and always will be an epic failure. He seems like a good guy, but he literally shows no bball acumen when he's out there. I'm including my perception of him last year as well; I don't care how many 3s he hit.