MS wrote:This forum is becoming embarrassing. Defending Melo? The guy sucked all game until 5 minutes left. We played bad because he takes the entire team concept and ****s all over it. The team played a great second quarter when they were moving it around. Shooting in triple teams taking contested fadeaways?

Blaming the refs? Is that a joke? Gallo was getting guys in the air and being aggressive going to the basket. And mind you he wasn't forcing a shot everytime down the court.

And you don't take chandler over moz 9/10 when moz is making 3MM and chandler is making 13MM especially when chandler has zero offensive game and isn't a top 10 center in this league.

If you take a poll, I guarantee 80% of the posters here do not defend Melo. Not sure what you are reading. Also, Gallo doesnt get anyone in the air, he jerks and snaps his body everytime he drives to the lane as if it was hit in the back by a sniper. Good for him if the refs buy into the flopping...

AnubisADL wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Answer Man, Like Most New Yorkers, Digs The Assist

Q. AnubisADL - Who else would you prefer take the 20 missed shots? Fields, Shumpert, Amare, Chandler?

A. You are missing the point entirely. If you are suggesting an offensive pecking order than you need to explain why Toney Douglas gets more attempts than an MVP calibre player.

Do you have something against passing to an open man?

I have something against passing to brick masons. I rather Melo take a contested mid range shot than Shumpert or Fields take a wide open 3-point shot. I like Melo's odds better.

Narrow thinking. Both Shumpert and Fields have demonstrated an ability to go strong to the rack. The three pointer is crack, which we all know is wack... and is a false crutch. Layups win games.

Melo not sharing the ball hurts everyone. Basketball is NOT a one-man game.

mrKnickShot wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

misterearl wrote:Taking 30 shots, and only making a third of them, is NEVER cool.

Who else would you prefer take the 20 missed shots? Fields, Shumpert, Amare, Chandler?

Seriously our entire team is struggling with their jumper including Melo. Would you prefer Melo sits and lets the wrist heal?

Melo is playing hurt and isn't going to continue to shoot 30% all season.

if he is hurt then it would be highly constructive for him NOT to take 30 shots. His teamates would have more confidence and shoot better if he trusted them a bit more. There is no excuse for all this selfish play and it would be cancerous to any team regardless of their quality of shooters. The funny thing is, they played really cohesive basketball when he sat.

Really so trusting his teammate is going to magically make them better shooters.

Source: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/gametracker/shotchart/NBA_20120121_DEN@NY

Please look at the shot chart. Landry Fields made a whopping 2 Jumpers while missing 5. Iman Shumpert made 5 jumpers while missing 7. Harrelson missed all his jumpers.

AnubisADL wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

misterearl wrote:Taking 30 shots, and only making a third of them, is NEVER cool.

Who else would you prefer take the 20 missed shots? Fields, Shumpert, Amare, Chandler?

Seriously our entire team is struggling with their jumper including Melo. Would you prefer Melo sits and lets the wrist heal?

Melo is playing hurt and isn't going to continue to shoot 30% all season.

if he is hurt then it would be highly constructive for him NOT to take 30 shots. His teamates would have more confidence and shoot better if he trusted them a bit more. There is no excuse for all this selfish play and it would be cancerous to any team regardless of their quality of shooters. The funny thing is, they played really cohesive basketball when he sat.

Really so trusting his teammate is going to magically make them better shooters.

Source: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/gametracker/shotchart/NBA_20120121_DEN@NY

Please look at the shot chart. Landry Fields made a whopping 2 Jumpers while missing 5. Iman Shumpert made 5 jumpers while missing 7. Harrelson missed all his jumpers.

AnubisADL - stop it. do you REALLY want one player hoisting 30 shots a night?

C'mon son, Stoudemire had 9 attempts from the field. Total. Nine. How can you defend such a blatant disparity with a straight face?

misterearl wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

misterearl wrote:Taking 30 shots, and only making a third of them, is NEVER cool.

Who else would you prefer take the 20 missed shots? Fields, Shumpert, Amare, Chandler?

Seriously our entire team is struggling with their jumper including Melo. Would you prefer Melo sits and lets the wrist heal?

Melo is playing hurt and isn't going to continue to shoot 30% all season.

if he is hurt then it would be highly constructive for him NOT to take 30 shots. His teamates would have more confidence and shoot better if he trusted them a bit more. There is no excuse for all this selfish play and it would be cancerous to any team regardless of their quality of shooters. The funny thing is, they played really cohesive basketball when he sat.

Really so trusting his teammate is going to magically make them better shooters.

Source: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/gametracker/shotchart/NBA_20120121_DEN@NY

Please look at the shot chart. Landry Fields made a whopping 2 Jumpers while missing 5. Iman Shumpert made 5 jumpers while missing 7. Harrelson missed all his jumpers.

AnubisADL - stop it. do you REALLY want one player hoisting 30 shots a night?

C'mon son, Stoudemire had 9 attempts from the field. Total. Nine. How can you defend such a blatant disparity with a straight face?

Who's fault is it that Stat only took 8 shots? Is it the scoring forwards job to get easy shots for his counterpart a forward, or is it the coaches fault for not designing plays for Stat and yanking him out of the pick and roll, his bread and butter. Or is it the pg's fault for not controlling tempo, breaking down the D, getting into the lane and dishing to him? Or is it Stats fault for not being more assertive?

mrKnickShot wrote:
"Really so trusting his teammate is going to magically make them better shooters."

Yes it will. If he does not have confidence in them, they will not shoot with confidence. There must be a flow to an offense for shooters to knock down their shots and sucks the flow right out of the game.

Suprisingly, Fields was shooting great (check the numbers on that) before Melo got here. Is that just a coincidence? Maybe - but I think not.

Shooting great for half a season makes you a great shooter?

Melo is the reason everyone is shooting bad. I guess you forgot the Knicks record BEFORE Melo got here.

Amare playing like complete trash isnt helping.

This is why the Knicks needed scoring but dudes were penciling Toney Douglas to take Billups place. Thing is Toney cant score or run the point right now. So I guess that is Melo's fault too.

The funny thing is the Carmelo trade was worth "it", whatever "it" is. The fundamental problem? The assets needed, to replace what was given up, will require at least two more years of pain and suffering. Two years?

By 2013, the head coach will have been replaced and the plot thickens once again.

AnubisADL wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:
"Really so trusting his teammate is going to magically make them better shooters."

Yes it will. If he does not have confidence in them, they will not shoot with confidence. There must be a flow to an offense for shooters to knock down their shots and sucks the flow right out of the game.

Suprisingly, Fields was shooting great (check the numbers on that) before Melo got here. Is that just a coincidence? Maybe - but I think not.

Shooting great for half a season makes you a great shooter?

Melo is the reason everyone is shooting bad. I guess you forgot the Knicks record BEFORE Melo got here.

Amare playing like complete trash isnt helping.

This is why the Knicks needed scoring but dudes were penciling Toney Douglas to take Billups place. Thing is Toney cant score or run the point right now. So I guess that is Melo's fault too.

You keep skirting the issue. Yes, the knicks have issues - we can all see that. However, it is obvious that ultra-selfish basketball is not helpful either. You really cannot defend that. Let him make the correct pass(es) when he gets doubled and tripled and let the chips fall where they may. 10-30? Really? C'mon! I was a fan of the trade (though I think they caved and gaved up too much when they did not need to) and I am a Melo fan and think he can be a stud but this is BS and is not basketball.

AnubisADL wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:
"Really so trusting his teammate is going to magically make them better shooters."

Yes it will. If he does not have confidence in them, they will not shoot with confidence. There must be a flow to an offense for shooters to knock down their shots and sucks the flow right out of the game.

Suprisingly, Fields was shooting great (check the numbers on that) before Melo got here. Is that just a coincidence? Maybe - but I think not.

Shooting great for half a season makes you a great shooter?

Melo is the reason everyone is shooting bad. I guess you forgot the Knicks record BEFORE Melo got here.

Amare playing like complete trash isnt helping.

This is why the Knicks needed scoring but dudes were penciling Toney Douglas to take Billups place. Thing is Toney cant score or run the point right now. So I guess that is Melo's fault too.

You keep skirting the issue. Yes, the knicks have issues - we can all see that. However, it is obvious that ultra-selfish basketball is not helpful either. You really cannot defend that. Let him make the correct pass(es) when he gets doubled and tripled and let the chips fall where they may. 10-30? Really? C'mon! I was a fan of the trade (though I think they caved and gaved up too much when they did not need to) and I am a Melo fan and think he can be a stud but this is BS and is not basketball.

Dude is he makes the correct passes he is STILL going to get blamed for the losses. That is the plight of a franchise player.

We need to trade for a better backcourt of at least 3rd year players. Shumpert and Fields are ok but we need some proven help at the guard position.

I completely agree but he still has to make the right plays and he gets blamed since he is the Diva then so be it.