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Kenyon Martin has agreed to a buyout with his Chinese team. Hello, room exception.
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TheSage
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12/25/2011  8:41 AM

THis like some "Green eggs and ham" kind of rant!

I do not like Kmart and his game, I do think its really quite lame!

I don't like with face and tats, with his spats, that is that!

I don not like Kenyon Martin at all, I don like KMART whose is tall!....

I do not like that he ugly and sweat, I do not like he was a Net!

I don like His game of Mean, or that he he's old and likes to preen!

I do not like This Kenyon Martin whose mind is small, I don like This KMART, no not at all!....

I do no this sonofaBITCH PRICK......

I would not like him as a KNICK!

I would not like him for a veteran min....

I would not like him if he was next of kin!

I do not like this Kenyon Martin, not even one bit!

This KMart fella go to hell and eat SHIT!
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12/25/2011  8:56 AM
Ugh no thank you. I agree with everything misterearl and Nalod(lol) said.
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12/25/2011  9:23 AM
Be patient.

Wait for Wilson Chandler. He is the perfect swing player to provide scoring (with three point range), rebounding and ball movement. The Mayor is strong enough to defend some centers and quick enough to get out on skill forwards. He is one of our yoots.

The only problem is he's gotta pay Shump Shump for his jersey numeral.

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12/25/2011  9:44 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
loweyecue wrote:The return of Fugazi?! Yuck.

Tim Thomas is back?! J/K

Tim Thomas had called K-Mart Fugazi, if I remember correctly.

Yeah but we all started calling TT a fugazy afterward, mostly because of his awful play during the end of his first stint with us.

Ah! That explains why I never understood the Fugazi connection. :)

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12/25/2011  9:49 AM
misterearl wrote:Be patient.

Wait for Wilson Chandler. He is the perfect swing player to provide scoring (with three point range), rebounding and ball movement. The Mayor is strong enough to defend some centers and quick enough to get out on skill forwards. He is one of our yoots.

The only problem is he's gotta pay Shump Shump for his jersey numeral.

He a RFA, so the earliest we'd be able to get Wilson is next year, and that's if signs the QO from the Nuggets. The only way RFA's ever switch teams is if their original team doesn't want them or another team gives them an insane contract so that it won't get matched. I don't believe Denver would just let him go for nothing, and we can't, and shouldn't, offer a contract large enough that it wouldn't be matched.

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12/25/2011  10:50 AM
VCoug wrote:
misterearl wrote:Be patient.

Wait for Wilson Chandler. He is the perfect swing player to provide scoring (with three point range), rebounding and ball movement. The Mayor is strong enough to defend some centers and quick enough to get out on skill forwards. He is one of our yoots.

The only problem is he's gotta pay Shump Shump for his jersey numeral.

He a RFA, so the earliest we'd be able to get Wilson is next year, and that's if signs the QO from the Nuggets. The only way RFA's ever switch teams is if their original team doesn't want them or another team gives them an insane contract so that it won't get matched. I don't believe Denver would just let him go for nothing, and we can't, and shouldn't, offer a contract large enough that it wouldn't be matched.

Likely, once he's finished in China in March, he'll take the QO from the Nuggets for the rest of this season, then become a restricted free agent this offseason. I don't think the Nuggets will resign him to a long term deal, as Nene and Affalo cost them a fair bit- they still have Gallo to give a big contract to in a couple of years, plus Ty Lawson- likely they'll end up dealing him via a sign and trade for a pick or something.

It would be great if we could sign Wilson Chandler to the MLE in the offseason- he could be our starting 2, plus back up at SF and PF- he'd just be great to have as a starter or sixth man. Unfortunately, he'll get offers that are much more than the MLE (for all the hype, 2012 FA crop isn't actually that good, as the main stars are either restricted or will be dealt during this season), so I think it's very doubtful- sure he loved playing in NY, but so did Shawne Williams- at the end of the day, basketball players have relatively short careers so I don't hold it against them at all that they usually opt for the money option.

Also, we need to bare in mind that our options to improve the roster are really limited- if we blew the MLE on Wilson Chandler, then how would we resign Baron davis if he plays well this year? Or how would we get Steve Nash?

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12/25/2011  12:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/25/2011  1:37 PM
I wouldn't be very surprised if Lakers threw their trade exemption for Lamor Odom at Wilson Chandler at all.
Chandler isn't as skilled as Odom but he is quite versatile, more importantly he is 8 years younger.

Depending on how the Lakers are playing this year (if they are in contention with playoffs or in for a big drop off), with Kobe injured, what happens with Dwight Howard, and if the Nets improve this year. (with Deron Williams being a target as well)

In the summer, the Lakers will have at most 7 players under contract, if not moves are made, a combination of $60,608,000 million of committed salary.
They still have their

Assets of Lakers
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Amnesty clause *next year or future to use*
their own first round picks
with Dallas's 1st round pick for Odom
Odom's trade exemption to use or lose this year

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Lakers Roster for next year with no moves

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Kobe Bryant 3years 84million, with next year making 29m
Pau Gasol 3years 58million, with next year making 19m
Bynum 2years 32million, with next year making 16.5m, *team option*

Walton 2years 12million, with next year making 6.1m
Blake 3years 12million, with next year making 4m

MWP/RonRon 3years 22million, with next year making 7.3m *player option*
Fisher 2year 6.8million, with next year making 3.4m *player option*

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They have quite a few options, they have assets team just might pay for, including Bryant.
It wouldn't be impossible, at his age, and if someone is still willing to give the farm for him.
It would instantly bring them under the cap, with room to sign almost 2 max players.

With Bryant even being a possibility, its fair to say NO ONE is safe.
It's possible they will still throw a package to Orlando at the deadline, possibly might need a 3rd team, throwing both Pau and Bynum.
It seems like a big price to pay but Dwight Howard is the best center on both ends, with great durability from injuries, which, with his skills at that size is RARE and Unique.
They would look to trade Bynum before not picking up his team option. However, depending on if they trade Kobe, and who makes it to FA in the summer, they are a franchise players
would love to play for.

I don't think MWP aka Artest, would opt out of his 3 year deal with the way the market has gone down and his game has slowed down.
Fisher wouldn't be much of a surprise, if he goes to another team after Phil Jackson is gone, or even retirement.

Walton is considered a bad contract but is in the final year so it might have some value at the deadline or next year. Blake's contract isn't too bad with 3years, 4m each.
They have a lot of option, they can change their whole core, and having the ability to add a couple All Star level talents. Again, the amnesty clause can free up a lot of their salary cap, with Artest being the likely target next year if he doesn't opt out. If a team is willing to give a a nice package for Kobe, it would be a possibility as well, with
all of these high caliber talents available FA's in the summer.

While I would love to add Wilson Chandler back to our core, the only realistic way to acquire him, is to sign and trade for him with Denver.
If Lakers keep their exception from Dallas, depending on what happens, there is a chance they will use it on him, depending on many factors during the season and trades throughout the league. If Lakers can trade for Dwight Howard, for Bynum and 3 future 1st round picks,(one being Dallas's) maybe even 4, while not picking up Turkeglu's contract, it would be a great addition for the Lakers, while keeping Pau Gasol with the addition of Superman. It would be a lot of 1st round picks but with DH, it would well worth it.
For Orlando, they would like to get rid of some contracts as well, but Bynum can help them remain competitive, while adding a couple extra 1st rounders to help them rebuild.

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12/25/2011  12:30 PM
Wilson Chandler please. Kmart sucks!
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12/25/2011  3:28 PM
A PG!
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12/25/2011  3:36 PM
Knicksfan wrote:A PG!

Preach bro.

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12/26/2011  1:11 AM
misterearl wrote:Be patient.

Wait for Wilson Chandler. He is the perfect swing player to provide scoring (with three point range), rebounding and ball movement. The Mayor is strong enough to defend some centers and quick enough to get out on skill forwards. He is one of our yoots.

The only problem is he's gotta pay Shump Shump for his jersey numeral.

that and that his market value is $7-$9 million a year and we can't pay him that. and he's restricted.

what does signing kmart for the room exception have to do with the pipe dream of signing wilson?


if we offer wilson the room exception this season, wilson accepts, denver says great bargain, we'll match that. wilson is RFA


if you're saying wait until the summer to sign wilson, again, i ask what does that have to do with giving kmart the room exception this season. we'll have the MLE next summer either way. (i happen to believe wilson will never come to this team for the MLE and we'd be better served using the MLE on a point guard. but again, this thread is about the room exception for this season.)

either way, wilson has very very very little to do with the room exception this season.

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12/26/2011  9:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/26/2011  11:29 AM
Crzymdups is exactly right. The 2.5M exception is available this year only, and Wilson is not. Isn't there a euro PG or something we can get? I guess K-Mart's OK Tyson/Stat need to keep his negativity in check. If he sends out a couple of gripes against MDA the the three ring circus will be back in full flow.
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12/26/2011  2:12 PM
"The Knicks have one roster spot still open entering tomorrow’s season opener, and Carmelo Anthony hopes it eventually goes to his former Nuggets teammate Kenyon Martin, according to an NBA source.

According to the source, Anthony wants Martin in New York, though he is not permitted to sign a contract until March, when his Chinese team is through with the playoffs. The rugged forward was bought out earlier this week and was expected home for the holidays.

The source said Martin considers the Knicks his top choice, partly because of his friendship with Anthony. They became tight during their nearly seven seasons together in Denver. Martin could fill the role of another gritty big man off the bench with athleticism.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/melo_backs_mart_shop_HyuuyujsUgZlgLJUGX9x2K#ixzz1hfXZXa73"

The article above answers the crzymdups question about whether Melo encouraged Martin to join the Knicks. I have frequently seen that an opposing basketball player who you dislike greatly can turn into someone you root for, by simply joining your team. I even bet that almost all of us would be Kevin Garnett fans, if he played for the Knicks instead of the Celtics. My bet is the Knicks want to make Melo happy, and are holding their $2.5 million slot for Martin later this year.

Kenyon Martin has agreed to a buyout with his Chinese team. Hello, room exception.

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