CashMoney wrote:STAT is a better overall player than Pau, plain and simple. Think of it this way....replace STAT with Pau on the Knicks and throw STAT in LA with Kobe and company and what do you have? Pau is a good player but not close to STAT IMHO.

They are differnt types of players and who surrounds them is pivital.

Give Amare Bynum and he will shine beyond comparison if healthy.

GO watch the games where Amare felt good and the Moz was playing effectively and see how much easier it was for him.

If im the knicks I have an $80 million dollar investment/liabilty that has no insurance on it. I would see it as a priority to get him some protection/inhancement ASAP!

I don't want Amare playing the 5 next to Shawn williams.

INstad of blowing all the cap space on CP3 I be looking into rounding out the roster with quality. We can win with Two stars.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Last year Amare for most of the season was the focal point of the offense where Lakers have Kobe and a more balanced attack.

They are differnt types of players and who surrounds them is pivital.

Give Amare Bynum and he will shine beyond comparison if healthy.

GO watch the games where Amare felt good and the Moz was playing effectively and see how much easier it was for him.

If im the knicks I have an $80 million dollar investment/liabilty that has no insurance on it. I would see it as a priority to get him some protection/inhancement ASAP!

I don't want Amare playing the 5 next to Shawn williams.

INstad of blowing all the cap space on CP3 I be looking into rounding out the roster with quality. We can win with Two stars.

If Amare is healthy and has Bynum as a teammate, that would be awesome. My comments in this thread are not criticism of Amare. He's an excellent player, although I have substantial concerns about his health.

Nobody is critial of Amare. We comparing Apples to Valencias!

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:STAT is a better overall player than Pau, plain and simple. Think of it this way....replace STAT with Pau on the Knicks and throw STAT in LA with Kobe and company and what do you have? Pau is a good player but not close to STAT IMHO.

The Lakers have won two championships and made it to the finals three times in the past four years with Pau. Are you really saying that they would have won more than that with Amare? Do you think Lakers fans wish they could have replaced Pau with Amare over the past 4 years?

The Lakers would have had the same success. How hard is to play 2nd fiddle to Kobe? Pau isn't going to carry a team. What I'm saying is that put Pau on the Knicks and does Pau have a MVP type season? Nope.

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:STAT is a better overall player than Pau, plain and simple. Think of it this way....replace STAT with Pau on the Knicks and throw STAT in LA with Kobe and company and what do you have? Pau is a good player but not close to STAT IMHO.

The Lakers have won two championships and made it to the finals three times in the past four years with Pau. Are you really saying that they would have won more than that with Amare? Do you think Lakers fans wish they could have replaced Pau with Amare over the past 4 years?

The Lakers would have had the same success. How hard is to play 2nd fiddle to Kobe? Pau isn't going to carry a team. What I'm saying is that put Pau on the Knicks and does Pau have a MVP type season? Nope.

Amare didn't have an MVP type season either. It's quite bold to say the Lakers would have won the championships with Amare. To win a championship, you have to have everything fall into place perfectly. If you change one thing, especially the 2nd best player on the team, then all bets are off as to what would happen. We'll see. Amare is supposedly MVP material and he supposedly has an MVP level teammate too. The teams should certainly be competing for a conference final soon - no more excuses.

You say "no more excuses" like STAT and Melo have been together for years or something. Why are you taking this aggressive tone towards STAT? Sounds like you're gonna be rooting against him almost. Comments like "Amar'e is supposedly MVP material" sound very negative. I'm sorry you don't like your current team. It must suck not to be able to root for your team 100% cuz you don't like the main players.

You need to come to grips with the fact that even if you think Gasol is better there's no way he's WAY better than Amar'e and there's not a statistic you can show that would support such a claim. yea Gasol won a couple of titles, but let's not make it sound like the Lakers were his team and he's Olajuwon. Dude was Robin, not Batman.

STAT and Melo probably will be able to take the team deep into the playoffs, but unlike the Lakers during their 3 years of finals appearances, the Knicks aren't the most talented team in the East. This team is still being built. Chicago has been together longer, as have the Celtics. It's never easy to throw guys together and have them beat more experienced teams that are just as talented. We'll see if they can pull it together despite the short time they'll have to prepare this year. IMO I think this team can finish 4/5 this year and should definitely be a 2nd rd. team. More than that is hard to say. Depends on who they can add to the mix.

nixluva wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:STAT is a better overall player than Pau, plain and simple. Think of it this way....replace STAT with Pau on the Knicks and throw STAT in LA with Kobe and company and what do you have? Pau is a good player but not close to STAT IMHO.

The Lakers have won two championships and made it to the finals three times in the past four years with Pau. Are you really saying that they would have won more than that with Amare? Do you think Lakers fans wish they could have replaced Pau with Amare over the past 4 years?

The Lakers would have had the same success. How hard is to play 2nd fiddle to Kobe? Pau isn't going to carry a team. What I'm saying is that put Pau on the Knicks and does Pau have a MVP type season? Nope.

Amare didn't have an MVP type season either. It's quite bold to say the Lakers would have won the championships with Amare. To win a championship, you have to have everything fall into place perfectly. If you change one thing, especially the 2nd best player on the team, then all bets are off as to what would happen. We'll see. Amare is supposedly MVP material and he supposedly has an MVP level teammate too. The teams should certainly be competing for a conference final soon - no more excuses.

You say "no more excuses" like STAT and Melo have been together for years or something. Why are you taking this aggressive tone towards STAT? Sounds like you're gonna be rooting against him almost. Comments like "Amar'e is supposedly MVP material" sound very negative. I'm sorry you don't like your current team. It must suck not to be able to root for your team 100% cuz you don't like the main players.

You need to come to grips with the fact that even if you think Gasol is better there's no way he's WAY better than Amar'e and there's not a statistic you can show that would support such a claim. yea Gasol won a couple of titles, but let's not make it sound like the Lakers were his team and he's Olajuwon. Dude was Robin, not Batman.

STAT and Melo probably will be able to take the team deep into the playoffs, but unlike the Lakers during their 3 years of finals appearances, the Knicks aren't the most talented team in the East. This team is still being built. Chicago has been together longer, as have the Celtics. It's never easy to throw guys together and have them beat more experienced teams that are just as talented. We'll see if they can pull it together despite the short time they'll have to prepare this year. IMO I think this team can finish 4/5 this year and should definitely be a 2nd rd. team. More than that is hard to say. Depends on who they can add to the mix.

I meant "excuses" in this thread about Amare not having the opportunities Pau has had even though Amare's Suns teams without Amare probably beat or at least be competitive with Pau's teams without Pau. By the reasoning here, Carmelo is Amare's second MVP level teammate and we're one of the few teams with two MVP level players. Fan expectations and demands and should be high.

You're right that it has sucked to be a Knicks fan for the past ten years and sometimes I feel disappointed about it for a few minutes but then I find something more productive to do.