NYKBocker wrote:Bismack Biyombo. Anybody know anything about this dude.

All I know is what I read in draftexpress. It sounds like he's just what we need, an aggressive defender, a great shot blocker and rebounder who gets hustle points inside. He won't be there for us unless we trade up. A friend told me he reminded him of Ben Wallace.

Juice wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:Bismarck will be long gone by 17

That's okay hopefully if Biz Markie is gone by then we'll catch Vapors from someone else talented.....

So let's review a little

We have all these binkies in the pool thus far

Tyler
Vucevic
Brooks
Burks
Darius Morris
Biz Markie
Fridette
Walker
Faried
Selby
Singleton
JuJaun Johnson
Donatas
Parsons
Jackson
Markief Morris

etc etc

Do we still feel this draft is weak?

We'll be waiting around for the scraps.

I have to pick this guy J.Johnson of Purdue Boilermakers
hands down fit Knicks needs immediately

Seriously UNDERRATED..
Seems like a combo of Ibaka (Thunder) & Sam Dalembert
but with more offensive around the post skills
Add a pinch of Dwight Howard Potential..(possible)

At 6 10' he can or still may be growing.

DJMUSIC wrote:All respect to the impressive polling list
all good

I have to pick this guy J.Johnson of Purdue Boilermakers
hands down fit Knicks needs immediately

Seriously UNDERRATED..
Seems like a combo of Ibaka (Thunder) & Sam Dalembert
but with more offensive around the post skills
Add a pinch of Dwight Howard Potential..(possible)

At 6 10' he can or still may be growing.

What do you think about this for J. Johnson:

His main issue defensively is defending the post. He does a good job of using his length to contest shots, but his lack of lower body strength really manifests itself in this aspect of his game, as he struggles to deny post position, and is easily backed down, allowing high percentage shots. Furthermore, he seems to lack a degree of toughness and aggressiveness here, as its not rare to see players pushing him around, and he doesn't always respond the way you would hope.

Johnson also struggles on the glass, averaging only 6.6 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes, pace adjusted, which places him well into the bottom half of our database. His lack of strength, toughness and inability to hold position is a clear problem here, and one that it's hard to envision him overcoming with great success.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/JaJuan-Johnson-5307/#ixzz1OAzKVv4z
http://www.draftexpress.com

I aint sure on his size (6 8' or 6 9') he seem smaller
and less taller than his indicated height. His potential
is good and he's from thunders S.Ibaka's neck of the woods

CrushAlot wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:The Bismack Biyombo guy aint bad pick either at 17th
he is raw offensively but has good instincts on the
other side of ball defensively.

I aint sure on his size (6 8' or 6 9') he seem smaller
and less taller than his indicated height. His potential
is good and he's from thunders S.Ibaka's neck of the woods

I think Biyombo measured out to have a freakish reach 7'5"? I have only watched videos and read about him but he looks like the kind of guy you trade up for. I think he is rated as going as high as 5th. He is still young and will probably end up growing a couple of more inches. Just from limited exposure to him he seems like the kind of player you try and move up to get. I know he blocks a lot of shots in the film I have seen.

Biyombo is the protypical feast or famine pick. If he works out, great, but if he doesn't, he hasn't exactly accomplished much of note.

"When you’re a projected second-round draft pick, it’s not a bad idea to work out for as many NBA teams as possible.

That seems to be the philosophy of Cleveland State guard Norris Cole.

“I’ve been around,” Cole said with a large smile and a laugh following a workout in Charlotte.

He speaks the truth. And man, does he ever.

Cole has conducted workouts with Charlotte, Detroit, Utah, Miami, Houston and Chicago. He goes to New York next.

“I think I’ve got about eight more,” Cole said, pausing long enough to count. “Yeah, eight more.”

Cole is 6-foot-2 and led the Horizon League in scoring this past season at 21.7 points per game. He was named Horizon League player of the year and defensive player of the year, with averages of 5.8 rebounds and 2.2 steals. He also set Vikings records for points scored, free throws made and free throws attempted.

Most draft experts have him pegged to be selected early in the second round, with a few saying he could go late in the first. A lot of it, of course, will boil down to how he fares on the pre-draft circuit.

The good news is, he really left an impression on the Bobcats. They own the ninth and 19th overall selections in the first round, and 39th overall in the second.

“Norris was terrific today. He passed, he shot, he’s tough,” said Bobcats coach Paul Silas. “We went out to dinner with him last night, and he’s just a terrific kid. You know, really, really smart; got everything going on.”

Silas later admitted, “I didn’t know Cole was that good.”

Cole said he’s not really doing anything differently than he did while with the Vikings. It’s just that now he’s getting the same exposure as the guys from big-name programs such as Duke or UCLA. That’s not often the case when you play for a mid-major.

“I’m just doing what I do best,” he said of the NBA workouts. “The worst thing you can do is get out there and do something new. They know who you are; they’ve seen you play enough. So I just get out there and try to show them what I’m about.”

What is Cole about? Well, one thing he wants to make clear is that he’s a true point guard. There seems to have been some debate about that, with word swirling he may be one of those “combo guards.” That often means a scorer first, passer second.

Not so, Cole insisted.

“I’m a pure point guard,” he said. “I’ve been raised up to this point to be a pure point guard, and that’s what teams are looking for from me — to be a point guard and a floor general. I’ll do whatever the team needs at this level. In college, I was the scorer, but at this level there are guys (who are) very offensively talented that I can get the ball to. That will be my job.”

The Vikings finished the season 25-9 and advanced to the second round of the NIT. Cole said he’s confident that enough NBA types were able to see him play — and appreciate what he has to offer.

“My senior year, I wanted to make sure I left no stone unturned,” he said. “I wanted to show my athleticism. I wanted to show how feisty I am on the defensive end. I wanted to show that I have a good shooting touch, that I can get everyone involved. And that I can affect the game in more than one way. When you’re a point guard, you have to affect the game in more than one way.”

None of this is to say Cole thinks he’s a finished product. Although he’s quick at getting to the basket and creating shots for himself, he’s not necessarily a pure shooter. But he is working on his perimeter game and has made improvements in that area.

And it appears that’s what pro scouts are seeking.

“They would like to see my range a little bit more, particularly on (3-pointers),” Cole said. “That will come just by getting more reps. They know my strengths. They know my speed end to end is pretty good, so it’s really just my range on my shot.”

More than anything, Cole would also like them to know that, yes, he is a capable and willing distributor. That really is the purpose of all these workouts — and something that could elevate him into the first round.

“The coaches and the scouts who have seen me play know I’m a pure (point guard),” Cole said. “They know I feel the game out. They know I’m not out there, you know, shot hunting.”

As for job hunting, well, that’s a different matter."

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