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3/22/2011  9:57 PM
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BigSm00th wrote:awesome article.

MDA is not the coach for this team. we have two of the top scorers in the game. we don't need his gimmick offense. we need a new coach who will garner the players respect, make them play defense, make them play as a team.

this team's gonna get stomped in the first round. adios

how is ball movement and spacing a gimmick?

I bet if we got Deanre Jordon, Reggie Evans, Raja Bell and Toney Allen we would be a good defensive team

ISO basketball is the WORST to watch.

ISO Basketball is also a thing of the past.. which is why when kobe goes into his iso mode, phil jackson digs into kobe....

it is not winning basketball.. those days are done!!

The key here is Phil openly holds Kobe accountable and calls the best basketball player out in the media without hesitation. Matter of fact recently he made an on blast statement that Ron Artest is better at running the Triangle offense than Kobe. A player who not only is the best in the sport but has also won chips with him as his feature piece....

Now ask yourself TKF or any other coach apologist what does D'AnToni do other than to make suggestions in the media that "Players may be pressing or fighting the System needing to trust each other more" and for fans to.."Take Some Prozac"......That's passive aggressive, generic, canned, bad attempt at humor, ultra sensitive, and no one will respect this approach. They will walk all over you eventually.

This coach will use up all moments of coddling on players like Duhon/Lee/Felton/Amar'e who have been extremely guilty of not playing up to expectations for long periods of time. But he sure is quick to blast young players or rookies like Hill/AR/Darko/Nate/even Gallo(at times). He's a fake bully, who needs to be bullied in the fullest sense himself. He's a good coach when it comes to offense, he just fails in so many other areas of his job which quite frankly consist a lot of PLAYER MANAGEMENT(the thing Phil Jackson gets applauded for most throughout his career).

Pringles simply sucks at defensive scheme implementation and managing of his personnel.... from egos, to rotations, to playing favorites, to appropriate disciplining, to correct player positions, to player assignments within his scheme, not assessing talent correctly, game awareness(clock and fouls) etc etc.

Brent Barry who actually is a very good in studio analyst who played probably for the best coach since 2000 in Popovich says our problems most certainly involve coaching philosophy and commitment to play the other side of the ball. He also mentions quite often teams love to play us because they know if pressure is applied to the team we'll crack eventually.

so your a player apologist... whats the difference? Is Artest played here would he played hard on defense? Raja Bell was first NBA defensive team under MDA.

When Doc told TMAc to play this way TMac quit on him and got Doc fired. It happens all the time. This notion that a "good coach" can push or bully soft players into being tough is highlarious to me. Certain coaches have made breakthoughs with certain players and helped their careers. OThers have been cannon fodder.

Phil JAckson's won 11 rings. He can say anything he wants, and the quote makes ZERO sense because just this season Artest said he doesnt understand the offense, runs to a spot and stand there not knowing what to do next. From his mouth.

Every coach here has been killed by posters. Guys killed Chaney. Guys killed Lenny. EVERYONE killed Larry. Now its MDAs turn. When the talent gets better and PLAYS better the coaching will look a lot better also.

Was Nash a great defensive player in Dallas? Is Dirk now? Cmon people

I'm not a player apologist? Not sure how you got that out of what I wrote when I touched on "coddling" and "accountability" and "favoritism"


I think Melo sucks incorporating his talents into a TEAM concept

I think Amar'e is absolutely horrible at rebounding and manning the interior

I think Douglas is one of the most thirsty players I've ever seen in my lifetime

Don't get me started on Effries

I think Billups is out to pasture... probably should play coming off the bench at this stage in his career(I was suggesting Denver trade him last year for Iggy if at all possible so Lawson could run the show)


The rest of the roster is par for course throughout the league


Doesn't matter this coach has a far better roster than he's had since coming here and he has to show he's capable of getting the most out of whatever is set before him. Otherwise you're just indicting the GM as putting a poorly constructed roster together and stamping down Amar'e and Melo as less than desirable Stars in this game. We can't keep turning the roster over to prop up the coach. That's bass ackwards philosophy here


For the record I don't think Phil truly feels Ron Artest grasp the scheme better than Kobe. It's his way of telling Kobe cut out the bullchit. If D'AnToni's lack of ring credentials is the reason he has no say to speak blunt truth about his players 1-12 in the media when appropriate, once again we have the wrong coach on the bench.

So now it's about calling out players in the press? That is how good coaches are supposed to work? Seriously? Were even watching during Larry Brown/Marbury saga?

Sure......


Rick Carlisle 2weeks ago called his whole team soft.....lol and they are having a great season and in contention.

Only the strong TEAMS and PLAYERS respond to such constructive criticism. I didn't say go to the press with personal beefs. There's a way this can be done so the point gets across.


I could name several more examples such as


Doc Rivers calling Big Baby a Big baby

Nate McMillan saying his team isn't listening to him during games and calling out Andre Miller

SVG telling Dwight Howard to stop focusing on how much he isn't getting the ball but instead maintain his high level of defensive play

Eric Spoelstra essentially telling Lebron to check his ego

Yep and I wouldn't want any of them coaching here except may be Doc and I am not wild about him. Calling players out in the media only shows they don't actually have any control on those players. Not that I expect coaches to control grown men who also happen to be multi millionaires. I just think its bad form to take your team's internal issues to the media.

If you want to call someone out do it in front of the team and that should be enough, any coach who wants to incite a media circus will get eaten alive in NY.

Okay you don't see what good that would do

I'll raise you and say...

What good does it do when Carmelo goes to the Media and informs everyone the coaches didn't prepare them to make adjustments to Tyler Hansbrough?

What good does it do when Amar'e goes to the media and informs everyone the players aren't sure what to do defensively?

Keep that ish in house right?

Yup, I hve no respect for people who do that. I am not defending Melo or Amare. What they did was a poor example of professionalism and they should be ashamed of themselves.

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