Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:We are getting rid of a lot, and it sucks. Adding Mozgov to the deal makes it difficult because collectively it is so much to lose. But at the end of the day, Mozgov can and should not be the deal-breaker. He has some upside, but is an projected rotation player at best. Also, Sheldon Williams inclusion in the deal will somewhat supplement it. We should wait this thing out, but cannot let Mozgov get in the way of this deal. We are still retaining Fields, who is our best prospect along with Gallo. Just the fact that we are keeping one of the two is great.

No no no no--thats a deal breaker--its not the one piece its the collective.. walkway dolan and go to FA. f ridiculous now. I was going to back the trade of what was mentioned but this tipped the boat. If someone argues that Mosgov shouldnt be a deal beaker---you havent been in business a long time.
the volume of talented young assets is way too much if we give up Mosgov--its collective not one piece.

The volume of talent does not equal Melo in any way. Let's not overrate what we have here. We have very good young player, but no superstar talents. We have 2 great young chips in Gallo and Fields, we would only be trading 1. If you shop this entire package of players around the league, you won't get a player anywhere near as good as Melo, let alone Billups too, who is a 5-time all-star and finals MVP. Sometimes you have to take chances. I'm willing to chance a superstar for a group of good role players.

You sound like an idiot. Mosgov 24 gallo 22 WC 22 Randolph 21 felton 26 pick 2014. My man you dont give up a whole team for a non 5. If it was 23 YO Shaq--i would do it--this has tipped the scales--dont be s tupid think about it.

I can't believe some of you are content being stuck as a mediocre team. What is the plan going forward? Wait for our players to develop into great role players while Stoudemire's prime fades away? It is time to take a chance and get stars. We have an opportunity to add 2 more in the next 2 years. Let's go for it. We are not letting role players get in the way. We are retaining arguable our best young player in Fields and have a mid first round pick this summer to add talent. You have to give to get. Read this article if you need a second opinion. Mozgov, Gallo, and Chandler are not the answer to winning a championship in the near future.

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:We are getting rid of a lot, and it sucks. Adding Mozgov to the deal makes it difficult because collectively it is so much to lose. But at the end of the day, Mozgov can and should not be the deal-breaker. He has some upside, but is an projected rotation player at best. Also, Sheldon Williams inclusion in the deal will somewhat supplement it. We should wait this thing out, but cannot let Mozgov get in the way of this deal. We are still retaining Fields, who is our best prospect along with Gallo. Just the fact that we are keeping one of the two is great.

No no no no--thats a deal breaker--its not the one piece its the collective.. walkway dolan and go to FA. f ridiculous now. I was going to back the trade of what was mentioned but this tipped the boat. If someone argues that Mosgov shouldnt be a deal beaker---you havent been in business a long time.
the volume of talented young assets is way too much if we give up Mosgov--its collective not one piece.

The volume of talent does not equal Melo in any way. Let's not overrate what we have here. We have very good young player, but no superstar talents. We have 2 great young chips in Gallo and Fields, we would only be trading 1. If you shop this entire package of players around the league, you won't get a player anywhere near as good as Melo, let alone Billups too, who is a 5-time all-star and finals MVP. Sometimes you have to take chances. I'm willing to chance a superstar for a group of good role players.

You sound like an idiot. Mosgov 24 gallo 22 WC 22 Randolph 21 felton 26 pick 2014. My man you dont give up a whole team for a non 5. If it was 23 YO Shaq--i would do it--this has tipped the scales--dont be s tupid think about it.

I can't believe some of you are content being stuck as a mediocre team. What is the plan going forward? Wait for our players to develop into great role players while Stoudemire's prime fades away? It is time to take a chance and get stars. We have an opportunity to add 2 more in the next 2 years. Let's go for it. We are not letting role players get in the way. We are retaining arguable our best young player in Fields and have a mid first round pick this summer to add talent. You have to give to get. Read this article if you need a second opinion. Mozgov, Gallo, and Chandler are not the answer to winning a championship in the near future.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=oconnor_ian&id=6142327

It's sad that you've been a member here since 2001, went through the Isiah Era, and still want to continue to do Isiah-esque moves.

crzymdups wrote:GUYS WHAT YOU FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT DENVER HAS NO INTENTION OF TRADING WITH THE KNICKS.

Papabear Says

Agreed!

This mean Knicks are gonna have no problem including Turiaf?

FeltonandAmare wrote:Guys, calm the f down. Talk about being a prisoner of the moment. Will all of you man up when it's proven that Isiah isn't pulling strings behind the scene and when Mosgov isn't included in the deal??? Geez. Take a look at this reasoned approach to the situation.

http://knickerblogger.net/knicks-shoot-down-isiah-rumors/

What this guy is writing is denial, nothing more.

VDesai wrote:WojYahooNBA A front office executive with knowledge of 'Melo talks between Denver-New York says: "Knicks won't lose this deal over a reserve big man."

This mean Knicks are gonna have no problem including Turiaf?

hahaha, Woj just asked someone in New Jersey's front office. Lame.

VDesai wrote:WojYahooNBA A front office executive with knowledge of 'Melo talks between Denver-New York says: "Knicks won't lose this deal over a reserve big man."

This mean Knicks are gonna have no problem including Turiaf?

Once we include Mozgov, Denver will demand Fields.

martin wrote:

VDesai wrote:WojYahooNBA A front office executive with knowledge of 'Melo talks between Denver-New York says: "Knicks won't lose this deal over a reserve big man."

This mean Knicks are gonna have no problem including Turiaf?

hahaha, Woj just asked someone in New Jersey's front office. Lame.

Denver spins around and trades Mosgov to thr nets for a future 2 in 2030 Prokhov i love it when a plan come s together.

nixluva wrote:In the end Timo is about the future. He's not ready now and he's not going to be the difference between contending this year or not. This is a starting point. I don't like the deal, but at the same time if this is it, I might have to suck it up and do the deal. It's not like you can't find an adequate big man to replace what Timo gives us now. It's not about this season. It's about the next 5 seasons. Maybe they can work something out to add in Nene. IDK anymore. This is just turning into a crazy deal. What I do know is that the idea of Timo is better than the actual player he is right now. There's a reason we're still looking for big man help.

Denver is not going to deal with the Knicks. Just face it. They're asking for piece after piece and Dolan keeps emptying the cupboard.

This is not about what Denver wants anymore - this is about what they DON'T want. And what they don't want is to send Melo where he wants to go, to see him on national TV, to feel like they lost the deal.

They will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER trade him to the Knicks.

NEVER.

VDesai wrote:And as the world turns....

Chris_Broussard Sources say Den has not given NYK ultimatum that if Mozgov's not in deal, they'll trade him to NJ

Are Broussard's "sources" Alan Hahn's twitter feed? Hahn said that an hour or more ago.

Denver doesn't want to really trade Melo at all.