Marv wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:nixluva to the rescue with the feel-good! I just can't get all doom-and-gloom just yet while we still have a winning record. How many Februaries has it been since that was the case?

I'm just being realistic. This team wasn't built to be a shutdown defensive team. We beat teams by outscoring them and playing smart and efficient BB. Now we've been looking to add Melo who will only further cement that this is an offensive team. Unless we don't get him and then can go for a big and PG. Otherwise we'd be doubling down on the offensive team we already have and making it more potent with Melo.

I know it looks like we lost on D, but really it was horrid offense. We can't miss that many open shots and expect to win.

this game against the Clips' is the first time I recall ever seeing Gallo wide open just beyond the arc and looking for someone to pass to....

TD led that comeback from 20 down when he came on the floor. BTW he was a +16 for the game. Not everyone was terrible. Noticed also once Felton expecting Moz to go one way and he goes the other so Felton ran something else. Everyone needs to be on the same page.

love gallo's runs to the hoop being his go-to move now. his 3 point shot is seriously broke. i hope he recovers it because that’s quite a combination. but in the meantime i'm seriously glad he's chilling with it.

Gallo would be an awesome mid range shooter like Dirk. He shoots 90% from the line and is 6-10. Stop basing your game beyond the 3 pt line and use your talent from 14-18 feet with an occasional 3. This is the MDA *system* to take a player and force him to extend back beyond the 3 pt line--its not sustainable. Do you think these guys go on cold streaks because they are really forced to out up so many 3's YES. The offensive and defensive themes stink. They fired Don Nelson after 30 games with a winning record. This team needs new direction. Someone who will include Randolph-- find more efficient offense devalue the 3 pt line by 50% and put more emphasis on defense and rebounding. This is not just one area--the team is coached poorly. Why didnt we call timeout the other game down 2 with 9 seconds left? Then they blame it on Shawne Williams he didnt take a difficult 3--nope coach shouldve used a time out and set up a play. Looked like Dolan was pirsed those last 2 minutes if you rewatch the tape when they happened to throw the camera on him.

BRIGGS wrote:

Marv wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:nixluva to the rescue with the feel-good! I just can't get all doom-and-gloom just yet while we still have a winning record. How many Februaries has it been since that was the case?

I'm just being realistic. This team wasn't built to be a shutdown defensive team. We beat teams by outscoring them and playing smart and efficient BB. Now we've been looking to add Melo who will only further cement that this is an offensive team. Unless we don't get him and then can go for a big and PG. Otherwise we'd be doubling down on the offensive team we already have and making it more potent with Melo.

I know it looks like we lost on D, but really it was horrid offense. We can't miss that many open shots and expect to win.

this game against the Clips' is the first time I recall ever seeing Gallo wide open just beyond the arc and looking for someone to pass to....

TD led that comeback from 20 down when he came on the floor. BTW he was a +16 for the game. Not everyone was terrible. Noticed also once Felton expecting Moz to go one way and he goes the other so Felton ran something else. Everyone needs to be on the same page.

love gallo's runs to the hoop being his go-to move now. his 3 point shot is seriously broke. i hope he recovers it because that’s quite a combination. but in the meantime i'm seriously glad he's chilling with it.

Gallo would be an awesome mid range shooter like Dirk. He shoots 90% from the line and is 6-10. Stop basing your game beyond the 3 pt line and use your talent from 14-18 feet with an occasional 3. This is the MDA *system* to take a player and force him to extend back beyond the 3 pt line--its not sustainable. Do you think these guys go on cold streaks because they are really forced to out up so many 3's YES. The offensive and defensive themes stink. They fired Don Nelson after 30 games with a winning record. This team needs new direction. Someone who will include Randolph-- find more efficient offense devalue the 3 pt line by 50% and put more emphasis on defense and rebounding. This is not just one area--the team is coached poorly. Why didnt we call timeout the other game down 2 with 9 seconds left? Then they blame it on Shawne Williams he didnt take a difficult 3--nope coach shouldve used a time out and set up a play. Looked like Dolan was pirsed those last 2 minutes if you rewatch the tape when they happened to throw the camera on him.

I like Gallo but I don't see a mid range player. To many things have to be right for him to get his shot off. His shooting form screams set shot shooter it is slow and methodical at best. That is why three point shots are his favorite type of shots he can do his little wind up and shoot. One thing you will never see from Gallo is him take two or three dribbles get to a spot and let it fly. Another thing you won't see is dribble and pull up and shoot a jumper in any ones face. Fade away jumper not likely. If you look at Gallo without biased eyes you will realize that his game is pretty weak. He has good skills.

Olbrannon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:nixluva to the rescue with the feel-good! I just can't get all doom-and-gloom just yet while we still have a winning record. How many Februaries has it been since that was the case?

I'm just being realistic. This team wasn't built to be a shutdown defensive team. We beat teams by outscoring them and playing smart and efficient BB. Now we've been looking to add Melo who will only further cement that this is an offensive team. Unless we don't get him and then can go for a big and PG. Otherwise we'd be doubling down on the offensive team we already have and making it more potent with Melo.

I know it looks like we lost on D, but really it was horrid offense. We can't miss that many open shots and expect to win.

this game against the Clips' is the first time I recall ever seeing Gallo wide open just beyond the arc and looking for someone to pass to....

TD led that comeback from 20 down when he came on the floor. BTW he was a +16 for the game. Not everyone was terrible. Noticed also once Felton expecting Moz to go one way and he goes the other so Felton ran something else. Everyone needs to be on the same page.

i agree, i noticed a lot of what you said during last night's game... it's not often you see Gallo pass up a wide open shot, he didn't even look at the basket when he got the ball in his hands... & i saw Felton talking to Moz while Griffin was shooting FT's & he looked pretty frustrated they were clearly not on the same page at points in this game... Mozgov is still learning but he's caught out of position a lot of times, often trying to set a pick on the same side where Amare's standing or running his man right into the post where Felton is trying to pass the ball inside to another teammate, Felton has had to shoo him away on more than 1 occasion... Wilson did a disappearing act for much of the game too got it going a little bit in the 4th quarter but he's still clearly in a funk... TD was really the only guy that played well in last night's game even though the stats might tell you that other guys had great nights if you watched the game closely u'd know there were tons of mistakes being made on both ends of the floor by everyone.

BRIGGS wrote:

Marv wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:nixluva to the rescue with the feel-good! I just can't get all doom-and-gloom just yet while we still have a winning record. How many Februaries has it been since that was the case?

I'm just being realistic. This team wasn't built to be a shutdown defensive team. We beat teams by outscoring them and playing smart and efficient BB. Now we've been looking to add Melo who will only further cement that this is an offensive team. Unless we don't get him and then can go for a big and PG. Otherwise we'd be doubling down on the offensive team we already have and making it more potent with Melo.

I know it looks like we lost on D, but really it was horrid offense. We can't miss that many open shots and expect to win.

this game against the Clips' is the first time I recall ever seeing Gallo wide open just beyond the arc and looking for someone to pass to....

TD led that comeback from 20 down when he came on the floor. BTW he was a +16 for the game. Not everyone was terrible. Noticed also once Felton expecting Moz to go one way and he goes the other so Felton ran something else. Everyone needs to be on the same page.

love gallo's runs to the hoop being his go-to move now. his 3 point shot is seriously broke. i hope he recovers it because that’s quite a combination. but in the meantime i'm seriously glad he's chilling with it.

Gallo would be an awesome mid range shooter like Dirk. He shoots 90% from the line and is 6-10. Stop basing your game beyond the 3 pt line and use your talent from 14-18 feet with an occasional 3. This is the MDA *system* to take a player and force him to extend back beyond the 3 pt line--its not sustainable. Do you think these guys go on cold streaks because they are really forced to out up so many 3's YES. The offensive and defensive themes stink. They fired Don Nelson after 30 games with a winning record. This team needs new direction. Someone who will include Randolph-- find more efficient offense devalue the 3 pt line by 50% and put more emphasis on defense and rebounding. This is not just one area--the team is coached poorly. Why didnt we call timeout the other game down 2 with 9 seconds left? Then they blame it on Shawne Williams he didnt take a difficult 3--nope coach shouldve used a time out and set up a play. Looked like Dolan was pirsed those last 2 minutes if you rewatch the tape when they happened to throw the camera on him.

You talking about the Philly game last friday nite?

We were out of timeouts.

In hindsight, Gallo had the time to either fake and get a better look or if he had a mid range game fake and step in to shoot. But Being the unselfish player and running a set that has the NBA's highest % shooter beyond the 3 in place he passed to Wiliams.

The last 15 games have been tough. Do we really fire a coach after a small sample with this roster?

Do we go the route of PHX when they changed to Terry Porter and found that squad was just born to run so they switched back?

I have seen this team play better Defense and win with it.

This is also the NBA and some nites any team that lights it up wins.

With Melo looming the team is not in a good head and distractions are all over. Lakes coming in don't help.

fishmike wrote:

Marv wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Marv wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:nixluva to the rescue with the feel-good! I just can't get all doom-and-gloom just yet while we still have a winning record. How many Februaries has it been since that was the case?

I'm just being realistic. This team wasn't built to be a shutdown defensive team. We beat teams by outscoring them and playing smart and efficient BB. Now we've been looking to add Melo who will only further cement that this is an offensive team. Unless we don't get him and then can go for a big and PG. Otherwise we'd be doubling down on the offensive team we already have and making it more potent with Melo.

I know it looks like we lost on D, but really it was horrid offense. We can't miss that many open shots and expect to win.

this game against the Clips' is the first time I recall ever seeing Gallo wide open just beyond the arc and looking for someone to pass to....

TD led that comeback from 20 down when he came on the floor. BTW he was a +16 for the game. Not everyone was terrible. Noticed also once Felton expecting Moz to go one way and he goes the other so Felton ran something else. Everyone needs to be on the same page.

love gallo's runs to the hoop being his go-to move now. his 3 point shot is seriously broke. i hope he recovers it because that’s quite a combination. but in the meantime i'm seriously glad he's chilling with it.

Gallo would be an awesome mid range shooter like Dirk. He shoots 90% from the line and is 6-10. Stop basing your game beyond the 3 pt line and use your talent from 14-18 feet with an occasional 3. This is the MDA *system* to take a player and force him to extend back beyond the 3 pt line--its not sustainable. Do you think these guys go on cold streaks because they are really forced to out up so many 3's YES. The offensive and defensive themes stink. They fired Don Nelson after 30 games with a winning record. This team needs new direction. Someone who will include Randolph-- find more efficient offense devalue the 3 pt line by 50% and put more emphasis on defense and rebounding. This is not just one area--the team is coached poorly. Why didnt we call timeout the other game down 2 with 9 seconds left? Then they blame it on Shawne Williams he didnt take a difficult 3--nope coach shouldve used a time out and set up a play. Looked like Dolan was pirsed those last 2 minutes if you rewatch the tape when they happened to throw the camera on him.

well by that same thinking then we have to credit mda for retooling gallo's game and having him become a driving and getting-to-the-free-throw-line machine.

do you think another coach would have this team above .500? i have my doubts. this is a very young, inconsistent and fragile team. the only guy who shows up every night with his A game is amear. every single other player is totally capable of showing up empty on any given night. look at wilson. monster borderline all-star for a while and then non-starter material. rayray is all-star for a while and then everyone wants to dump him. moz, fields, gallo, williams - inconsistent all. the team's been GREAT as in 13-1 and it's been horrible as in 2 6-game losing streaks.

this is a .500 team. it's been an illuminating season so far. you gotta target some more consistent impact players and then decide who you’re willing to give up to go after them. in the meantime we’ve gone from a 29 win team to probably a 41 win team in a year. things are going in the right direction.

you simply cant judge a team this young by month to month stretchs. This is what the whole you cant rebuild in NY mantra is all about. Young players, even good ones give you inconsistant play and effort. Its part of the struggle

would you be happy sticking with this roster with no changes?

CrushAlot wrote:D'Antoni has coached the Knicks for 215 games. When is it fair to make a judgement on his coaching?

probably when we have our next 13-1 streak

Marv wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Marv wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Marv wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:nixluva to the rescue with the feel-good! I just can't get all doom-and-gloom just yet while we still have a winning record. How many Februaries has it been since that was the case?

I'm just being realistic. This team wasn't built to be a shutdown defensive team. We beat teams by outscoring them and playing smart and efficient BB. Now we've been looking to add Melo who will only further cement that this is an offensive team. Unless we don't get him and then can go for a big and PG. Otherwise we'd be doubling down on the offensive team we already have and making it more potent with Melo.

I know it looks like we lost on D, but really it was horrid offense. We can't miss that many open shots and expect to win.

this game against the Clips' is the first time I recall ever seeing Gallo wide open just beyond the arc and looking for someone to pass to....

TD led that comeback from 20 down when he came on the floor. BTW he was a +16 for the game. Not everyone was terrible. Noticed also once Felton expecting Moz to go one way and he goes the other so Felton ran something else. Everyone needs to be on the same page.

love gallo's runs to the hoop being his go-to move now. his 3 point shot is seriously broke. i hope he recovers it because that’s quite a combination. but in the meantime i'm seriously glad he's chilling with it.

Gallo would be an awesome mid range shooter like Dirk. He shoots 90% from the line and is 6-10. Stop basing your game beyond the 3 pt line and use your talent from 14-18 feet with an occasional 3. This is the MDA *system* to take a player and force him to extend back beyond the 3 pt line--its not sustainable. Do you think these guys go on cold streaks because they are really forced to out up so many 3's YES. The offensive and defensive themes stink. They fired Don Nelson after 30 games with a winning record. This team needs new direction. Someone who will include Randolph-- find more efficient offense devalue the 3 pt line by 50% and put more emphasis on defense and rebounding. This is not just one area--the team is coached poorly. Why didnt we call timeout the other game down 2 with 9 seconds left? Then they blame it on Shawne Williams he didnt take a difficult 3--nope coach shouldve used a time out and set up a play. Looked like Dolan was pirsed those last 2 minutes if you rewatch the tape when they happened to throw the camera on him.

well by that same thinking then we have to credit mda for retooling gallo's game and having him become a driving and getting-to-the-free-throw-line machine.

do you think another coach would have this team above .500? i have my doubts. this is a very young, inconsistent and fragile team. the only guy who shows up every night with his A game is amear. every single other player is totally capable of showing up empty on any given night. look at wilson. monster borderline all-star for a while and then non-starter material. rayray is all-star for a while and then everyone wants to dump him. moz, fields, gallo, williams - inconsistent all. the team's been GREAT as in 13-1 and it's been horrible as in 2 6-game losing streaks.

this is a .500 team. it's been an illuminating season so far. you gotta target some more consistent impact players and then decide who you’re willing to give up to go after them. in the meantime we’ve gone from a 29 win team to probably a 41 win team in a year. things are going in the right direction.

you simply cant judge a team this young by month to month stretchs. This is what the whole you cant rebuild in NY mantra is all about. Young players, even good ones give you inconsistant play and effort. Its part of the struggle

would you be happy sticking with this roster with no changes?

As I showed above there are only 4-5 teams in the league who are younger and have less experience. Do you give these guys the needed time to evaluate or do trade for more consistant players who have less upside?

I would have no problem if we made no moves and just continued to focus on improving from within.

I'm happy we have Walsh. I trust him. He wont makes trades to make trades. There will be no Mo Taylors. If we can get Melo for good value you have to do that.