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The Future, a time not today, but the day after today.
Yes, Felton can drop the buckets and dish the rocks for the next 6-8 years
No, Felton is just slightly better than Duhon, we're still searching for a worthy leader
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2/4/2011  10:05 PM
KNICKSdom wrote:
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KNICKSdom wrote:I would extend Felton next year and keep him for the long run until he comes down to Charlie Ward levels.

i wouldn't extend Felton until i knew what was gonna happen w/CP3 & Deron in 2012 & if the Knicks have any chance of going after them.

Why? I don't want be burned again. Chances are they will resign with their own team or go to Miami. Felton has proven himself this year and I'm betting my left nut he will play at an even higher level next year after having one year of D'antoni ball under his belt.

u won't get burned... Felton's contract will be expiring which makes him a very valuable potential piece to use in a trade to acquire 1 of those guys should they decide to opt out & seek trades elsewhere... if they decide to re-up w/their teams then u just sign Felton to an extension.

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2/4/2011  10:12 PM
TMS wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:
TMS wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:I would extend Felton next year and keep him for the long run until he comes down to Charlie Ward levels.

i wouldn't extend Felton until i knew what was gonna happen w/CP3 & Deron in 2012 & if the Knicks have any chance of going after them.

Why? I don't want be burned again. Chances are they will resign with their own team or go to Miami. Felton has proven himself this year and I'm betting my left nut he will play at an even higher level next year after having one year of D'antoni ball under his belt.

u won't get burned... Felton's contract will be expiring which makes him a very valuable potential piece to use in a trade to acquire 1 of those guys should they decide to opt out & seek trades elsewhere... if they decide to re-up w/their teams then u just sign Felton to an extension.


Since you put it that way, I'm ok with it.
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2/4/2011  10:14 PM
KNICKSdom wrote:
TMS wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:
TMS wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:I would extend Felton next year and keep him for the long run until he comes down to Charlie Ward levels.

i wouldn't extend Felton until i knew what was gonna happen w/CP3 & Deron in 2012 & if the Knicks have any chance of going after them.

Why? I don't want be burned again. Chances are they will resign with their own team or go to Miami. Felton has proven himself this year and I'm betting my left nut he will play at an even higher level next year after having one year of D'antoni ball under his belt.

u won't get burned... Felton's contract will be expiring which makes him a very valuable potential piece to use in a trade to acquire 1 of those guys should they decide to opt out & seek trades elsewhere... if they decide to re-up w/their teams then u just sign Felton to an extension.


Since you put it that way, I'm ok with it.

i think DW probably has an eye on that... might explain why he only signed Felton to a 2 year deal.

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2/4/2011  11:14 PM
TMS wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:
TMS wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:
TMS wrote:
KNICKSdom wrote:I would extend Felton next year and keep him for the long run until he comes down to Charlie Ward levels.

i wouldn't extend Felton until i knew what was gonna happen w/CP3 & Deron in 2012 & if the Knicks have any chance of going after them.

Why? I don't want be burned again. Chances are they will resign with their own team or go to Miami. Felton has proven himself this year and I'm betting my left nut he will play at an even higher level next year after having one year of D'antoni ball under his belt.

u won't get burned... Felton's contract will be expiring which makes him a very valuable potential piece to use in a trade to acquire 1 of those guys should they decide to opt out & seek trades elsewhere... if they decide to re-up w/their teams then u just sign Felton to an extension.


Since you put it that way, I'm ok with it.

i think DW probably has an eye on that... might explain why he only signed Felton to a 2 year deal.

Yup he does but plans can change. Now DW need to be resigned to finish the job.

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2/5/2011  10:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/5/2011  10:29 AM
I am now more convinced than ever that Felton is a terrible point guard, he's not the type of point we need here, and we'll never win anything with him. He needs to go when an upgrade is possible.

The guy took 20 shots last night, averages 15, 15!!! shots per game on the season and shoots 42%. The guy is a selfish man, he looks for his own way too much instead of looking to get everyone else going. He's slightly better than Marbury in that regard.

Steve Nash, he averaged over 13 shots a game only once with the Suns, mostly keeping it in the 12s and 11s.

This guy, Felton, he doesn't have it.

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2/7/2011  4:33 AM
-4th highest scoring pg
-6th in assists
-one of the better defensive pg's in the league.
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2/7/2011  6:31 AM
-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

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2/7/2011  6:43 AM
orangeblobman wrote:-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

I think I know!
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2/7/2011  7:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2011  10:40 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

I think I know!

Haha

It's like, all these fellas here, saying Felton 'does a lot of other things', but he has trouble doing the most important thing, he lacks the proper GameView (GV). GV is a way of seeing the game, not the court, it's the way a player visualizes his role in the team, the offense, and this dictates how he acts in a game.

Let's say there is a murderer, guy offs people with a butcher knife or something, maybe a blunt object. But he attends church every Sunday and he grows his own vegetables; he tutors diseased kids in algebra. But he's still a murderer!! You see?

He took 12 shots yesterday and dropped a bunch of dimes, that's great. Let's see him do that more often, consistently. But I don't see that happening. Such radical changes in GV take a lot of energy and effort, it takes a lot of honesty, honesty with yourself, and possibly psychedelic drugs.

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2/7/2011  10:34 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

I think I know!

Haha

It's like, all these fellas here, saying Felton 'does a lot of other things', but he has trouble doing the most important thing, he lacks the proper GameView (GV). GV is a way of seeing the game, not the court, it's the way a player visualizes his role in the team, the offense, and this dictates how he acts in a game.

Let's say there is a murderer, guy offs people with a butcher knife or something, maybe a blunt object. But he attended church every Sunday and he grows his own vegetables; he tutors diseased kids in algebra. But he's still a murderer!! You see?

He took 12 shots yesterday and dropped a bunch of dimes, that's great. Let's see him do that more often, consistently. But I don't see that happening. Such radical changes in GV take a lot of energy and effort, it takes a lot of honesty, honesty with yourself, and possibly psychedelic drugs.

Now that the All Star dreams have passed, as well as the blues from not being selected has passed also, maybe his GV settles on a new horizon and he can become an effective and useful cog in our playoff aspirations

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2/7/2011  11:10 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

I think I know!

Haha

It's like, all these fellas here, saying Felton 'does a lot of other things', but he has trouble doing the most important thing, he lacks the proper GameView (GV). GV is a way of seeing the game, not the court, it's the way a player visualizes his role in the team, the offense, and this dictates how he acts in a game.

Let's say there is a murderer, guy offs people with a butcher knife or something, maybe a blunt object. But he attends church every Sunday and he grows his own vegetables; he tutors diseased kids in algebra. But he's still a murderer!! You see?

He took 12 shots yesterday and dropped a bunch of dimes, that's great. Let's see him do that more often, consistently. But I don't see that happening. Such radical changes in GV take a lot of energy and effort, it takes a lot of honesty, honesty with yourself, and possibly psychedelic drugs.


LMFAO, You're saying someone needs to kidnap Ray and take him to a Furthur show in order to get him to overcome his recent stretch of mediocre decision making.
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2/7/2011  12:24 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

I think I know!

Haha

It's like, all these fellas here, saying Felton 'does a lot of other things', but he has trouble doing the most important thing, he lacks the proper GameView (GV). GV is a way of seeing the game, not the court, it's the way a player visualizes his role in the team, the offense, and this dictates how he acts in a game.

Let's say there is a murderer, guy offs people with a butcher knife or something, maybe a blunt object. But he attends church every Sunday and he grows his own vegetables; he tutors diseased kids in algebra. But he's still a murderer!! You see?

He took 12 shots yesterday and dropped a bunch of dimes, that's great. Let's see him do that more often, consistently. But I don't see that happening. Such radical changes in GV take a lot of energy and effort, it takes a lot of honesty, honesty with yourself, and possibly psychedelic drugs.


That said, if Marbury actually had a good attitude and played hard on both ends (like Felton does), then having him on a cheap 3 year contract would have been awesome.
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2/7/2011  12:51 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

I think I know!

Haha

It's like, all these fellas here, saying Felton 'does a lot of other things', but he has trouble doing the most important thing, he lacks the proper GameView (GV). GV is a way of seeing the game, not the court, it's the way a player visualizes his role in the team, the offense, and this dictates how he acts in a game.

Let's say there is a murderer, guy offs people with a butcher knife or something, maybe a blunt object. But he attends church every Sunday and he grows his own vegetables; he tutors diseased kids in algebra. But he's still a murderer!! You see?

He took 12 shots yesterday and dropped a bunch of dimes, that's great. Let's see him do that more often, consistently. But I don't see that happening. Such radical changes in GV take a lot of energy and effort, it takes a lot of honesty, honesty with yourself, and possibly psychedelic drugs.


LMFAO, You're saying someone needs to kidnap Ray and take him to a Furthur show in order to get him to overcome his recent stretch of mediocre decision making.

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2/7/2011  4:29 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:-2nd highest scoring pg
-2nd in assists

guess who held these two distinctions not too many years ago.

I think I know!

Haha

It's like, all these fellas here, saying Felton 'does a lot of other things', but he has trouble doing the most important thing, he lacks the proper GameView (GV). GV is a way of seeing the game, not the court, it's the way a player visualizes his role in the team, the offense, and this dictates how he acts in a game.

Let's say there is a murderer, guy offs people with a butcher knife or something, maybe a blunt object. But he attends church every Sunday and he grows his own vegetables; he tutors diseased kids in algebra. But he's still a murderer!! You see?

He took 12 shots yesterday and dropped a bunch of dimes, that's great. Let's see him do that more often, consistently. But I don't see that happening. Such radical changes in GV take a lot of energy and effort, it takes a lot of honesty, honesty with yourself, and possibly psychedelic drugs.


That said, if Marbury actually had a good attitude and played hard on both ends (like Felton does), then having him on a cheap 3 year contract would have been awesome.

It would have been awesome for a mediocre team.

Is Felton the right guy for a mediocre team? A team that squeaks into the playoffs and bows out with a whimper in the first round? Yes, he's the ideal point guard for that type of team.

Will Felton lead the Knicks to the Conference Finals and beyond? Never, not in 3.6 million years.

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Is Felton the right guy for a mediocre team?

you answered your own question... this team as currently constructed is mediocre... we need an influx of some major talent to take the step to the next level... Felton is a good enough PG if you have the talent... he's not good enough to be the 2nd best player on a championship contending squad... that much was obvious before we ever got him... Charlie Ward wasn't exactly the PG anyone thought would lead the Knicks to an NBA Finals, but he got the job done... it's about the overall talent level of the team, we're trying to build up to get to that level... questioning whether Felton is good enough to be our PG of the future is pointless until u have the other pieces in place.

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2/7/2011  5:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2011  5:00 PM
TMS wrote:
Is Felton the right guy for a mediocre team?

you answered your own question... this team as currently constructed is mediocre... we need an influx of some major talent to take the step to the next level... Felton is a good enough PG if you have the talent... he's not good enough to be the 2nd best player on a championship contending squad... that much was obvious before we ever got him... Charlie Ward wasn't exactly the PG anyone thought would lead the Knicks to an NBA Finals, but he got the job done... it's about the overall talent level of the team, we're trying to build up to get to that level... questioning whether Felton is good enough to be our PG of the future is pointless until u have the other pieces in place.

He's a part of the reason they're mediocre.

For example, put Nash on this team instead of Felton and you're at 35 games right now easy. No questions asked.

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orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:
Is Felton the right guy for a mediocre team?

you answered your own question... this team as currently constructed is mediocre... we need an influx of some major talent to take the step to the next level... Felton is a good enough PG if you have the talent... he's not good enough to be the 2nd best player on a championship contending squad... that much was obvious before we ever got him... Charlie Ward wasn't exactly the PG anyone thought would lead the Knicks to an NBA Finals, but he got the job done... it's about the overall talent level of the team, we're trying to build up to get to that level... questioning whether Felton is good enough to be our PG of the future is pointless until u have the other pieces in place.

He's a part of the reason they're mediocre.

For example, put Nash on this team instead of Felton and you're at 35 games right now easy. No questions asked.

Why stop at Nash? How about CP3, Williams and the other elite PG's? Felton is playing to the system. If he were asked to slow down the tempo and control the game he'd do it much like he do with his years in Charlotte. I could say that the Knicks would be a 35 if they had Pau in the middle. If the Knicks get Melo you'll see Felton change his game.

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2/24/2011  2:51 PM
I guess the answer is NO.
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2/24/2011  8:49 PM
He could be back for the 2012-2013 season as our superstar 3rd star at PG.
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technomaster wrote:He could be back for the 2012-2013 season as our superstar 3rd star at PG.

Hmm interesting thought. We should start leaking that the Knicks want Felton. Woo.

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