martin wrote:First 2 paragraphs of article.

We all know that Dolan has not spoken to media in like a thousand years. So mostly this info comes from someone near Isiah.

Which is about the worst way to base info in your article off of.

Despite the fact that Little Jimmy can't be trusted - I'm with martin on this one.

Starberman is now reporting it with a little extra angst on the side.

When it comes to sports, no point in worrying about **** until the **** actually happens.

What he has not done is correct that out landish rebound issue that we have, it is the most glaring weakness on the roster and has cost us a lot of games...and i mean 80% of our losses we have been completely destroyed on the boards. The problem is so bad that he should be willing to trade anyone outside of Amare, gallo and Felton, he's talking about not making a trade for the sake of making one, uhhmm excuse me, you your team got crushed on the boards by 20 the other night and that doesn't alarm you..wtf.

This has been a issue since Media day, and he's only adressed it mildly to the media at best.
IT may have over compensated teams for players he wanted, but atleast he would adress the need, like bringing in steph to replace Howard E..

If he doesn't address it by the Trade deadline, I would seriously look at other options for our GM.

knicks1248 wrote:how bout the four & 7ftrs curry mozgov randolph and milic(last yr) who mda refuses to play because his small ball offense
Here's some more food for thought, while your contemplating donnie's return..I like some of what he has done here, speaking from a culture prospective, he has shange that.

What he has not done is correct that out landish rebound issue that we have, it is the most glaring weakness on the roster and has cost us a lot of games...and i mean 80% of our losses we have been completely destroyed on the boards. The promblem is so bad that he should be willing to trade anyone outside of Amare, gallo and Felton, he's talking about not making a trade for the sake of making one, uhhmm exscuse me, you your team got crushed on the boards by 20 the other night and that doesn't alarm you..wtf.

This has been a issue since Media day, and he's only adressed mildly to the media at best.
IT may hoave over compensated teams for players he wanted, but atleast he would adress the need, like bringing in steph to replace Howard E..

If he doesn't address it by the Trade deadline, I would seriously look at other options for our GM.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/sports/basketball/04dribble.html

The Knicks’ imminent hiring of Mark Warkentien as an assistant to Walsh has generated another wave of rumors (mostly promulgated by agents and rival executives): that Dolan picked Warkentien, that Warkentien could replace Walsh and that Warkentien was chosen because he is represented by the agency that represents Carmelo Anthony.

“I don’t know where it’s coming from, because I hired Warkentien,” Walsh said, commenting on the matter for the first time. “You can call Warkentien and he can tell you that, period.”

Warkentien’s ties to Creative Artists Agency were not a factor, Walsh said. “I hired him because he’s a good basketball man and I can work with him,” he said. “And he’s been after me for a job for two years.”

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Here's some more food for thought, while your contemplating donnie's return..I like some of what he has done here, speaking from a culture prospective, he has shange that.

What he has not done is correct that out landish rebound issue that we have, it is the most glaring weakness on the roster and has cost us a lot of games...and i mean 80% of our losses we have been completely destroyed on the boards. The promblem is so bad that he should be willing to trade anyone outside of Amare, gallo and Felton, he's talking about not making a trade for the sake of making one, uhhmm exscuse me, you your team got crushed on the boards by 20 the other night and that doesn't alarm you..wtf.

This has been a issue since Media day, and he's only adressed mildly to the media at best.
IT may hoave over compensated teams for players he wanted, but atleast he would adress the need, like bringing in steph to replace Howard E..

If he doesn't address it by the Trade deadline, I would seriously look at other options for our GM.

perhaps you forgot that there was this dude out in Denver who has been pining so bad to come to NY that there are about a million threads and articles created over the past 6 months on that topic.

Google "Melo" for details.

Melo does not adress the rebound issue, he's a solid rebounder for his size, but give me a break. Were not talking a few rebounds here and there, were talking double digits almost every night, even in some of our wins, not to mention that in order to get melo we will almost certainly have to give up one of our so so rebounders.

Cmon martin we were talking about this rebound issue since the summer, so was every ananlyst in the country, how on earth did he adress it when we are being killed on a nightly basis. Mosgov, AR, and Rony won't cut it and , and everybody knew this.

Were not killing any of our opponents in any other catagory that would negate the deficiencies that we give up in the rebounding area. I could see if we led the league in steals, fast break points, and had the fewest TO's per game, but thats not the case at all.

you are missing the point.

Donnie ain't doing anything with any assets or players on this team until all the Melo actions pans out this trade deadline and/or perhaps if he becomes a FA this summer. End of story.

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Here's some more food for thought, while your contemplating donnie's return..I like some of what he has done here, speaking from a culture prospective, he has shange that.

What he has not done is correct that out landish rebound issue that we have, it is the most glaring weakness on the roster and has cost us a lot of games...and i mean 80% of our losses we have been completely destroyed on the boards. The promblem is so bad that he should be willing to trade anyone outside of Amare, gallo and Felton, he's talking about not making a trade for the sake of making one, uhhmm exscuse me, you your team got crushed on the boards by 20 the other night and that doesn't alarm you..wtf.

This has been a issue since Media day, and he's only adressed mildly to the media at best.
IT may hoave over compensated teams for players he wanted, but atleast he would adress the need, like bringing in steph to replace Howard E..

If he doesn't address it by the Trade deadline, I would seriously look at other options for our GM.

perhaps you forgot that there was this dude out in Denver who has been pining so bad to come to NY that there are about a million threads and articles created over the past 6 months on that topic.

Google "Melo" for details.

Melo does not adress the rebound issue, he's a solid rebounder for his size, but give me a break. Were not talking a few rebounds here and there, were talking double digits almost every night, even in some of our wins, not to mention that in order to get melo we will almost certainly have to give up one of our so so rebounders.

Cmon martin we were talking about this rebound issue since the summer, so was every ananlyst in the country, how on earth did he adress it when we are being killed on a nightly basis. Mosgov, AR, and Rony won't cut it and , and everybody knew this.

Were not killing any of our opponents in any other catagory that would negate the deficiencies that we give up in the rebounding area. I could see if we led the league in steals, fast break points, and had the fewest TO's per game, but thats not the case at all.

you are missing the point.

Donnie ain't doing anything with any assets or players on this team until all the Melo actions pans out this trade deadline and/or perhaps if he becomes a FA this summer. End of story.

Ok, so you patch up one hole only to see the water divert to another hole. Melo maybe important peice to add (know doubt), but that seems like a I T move, used up or your assets and flexibilty on a player, only to see you now have other area's with swiss cheese holes in it.

knicks1248 wrote:

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Here's some more food for thought, while your contemplating donnie's return..I like some of what he has done here, speaking from a culture prospective, he has shange that.

What he has not done is correct that out landish rebound issue that we have, it is the most glaring weakness on the roster and has cost us a lot of games...and i mean 80% of our losses we have been completely destroyed on the boards. The promblem is so bad that he should be willing to trade anyone outside of Amare, gallo and Felton, he's talking about not making a trade for the sake of making one, uhhmm exscuse me, you your team got crushed on the boards by 20 the other night and that doesn't alarm you..wtf.

This has been a issue since Media day, and he's only adressed mildly to the media at best.
IT may hoave over compensated teams for players he wanted, but atleast he would adress the need, like bringing in steph to replace Howard E..

If he doesn't address it by the Trade deadline, I would seriously look at other options for our GM.

i think DW has done everything in his power to address the rebounding & size issue while trying to keep the flexibility to target the bigname FA's in free agency... there's only so much a GM can do, it's up to the coach to utilize the pieces he provides to the best of their ability... MDA's penchant to play smallball has made some of DW's acquisitions obsolete.

I'm not sure I could agree with that, you can't give me a few guys to put on the floor and say hey, go rebound the ball... dude our players are completely out of position to rebound anything, even a medincine ball would be a problem.

The small ball thing is suspect, DALLAS had a 3 guard alignment and crushed us on the boards..whats up with that, most of the night it was either tyson or dirk in the middle, and no one else over 6 7"

What about atlanta, they had no one over 6 10" and destoryed us on the boards. What good is flexiblity when your not utilizing it to adress you biggest weakness

actually Dallas was playing 2 7 footers on the court at the same time the entire game... if it wasn't Tyson it was Haywood up front with Dirk... MDA as per usual tried to counter size by playing small ball & trying to shoot his way to a W & once again when his team wasn't hitting their 3's it spelled another L.

as for our players being out of position to grab rebounds, that lies on the coaching not on the GM... DW brought in AR a proven young big w/rebounding ability to address the issue this summer & MDA never utilized him... that's not a failing on DW's part... last year we had Darko & Hill on the bench who were both capable of grabbing boards off the bench & instead MDA chose to play Jonathan Bender, a 3 pt shooting weak rebounding big... this is the style of ball MDA likes to play.

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Here's some more food for thought, while your contemplating donnie's return..I like some of what he has done here, speaking from a culture prospective, he has shange that.

What he has not done is correct that out landish rebound issue that we have, it is the most glaring weakness on the roster and has cost us a lot of games...and i mean 80% of our losses we have been completely destroyed on the boards. The promblem is so bad that he should be willing to trade anyone outside of Amare, gallo and Felton, he's talking about not making a trade for the sake of making one, uhhmm exscuse me, you your team got crushed on the boards by 20 the other night and that doesn't alarm you..wtf.

This has been a issue since Media day, and he's only adressed mildly to the media at best.
IT may hoave over compensated teams for players he wanted, but atleast he would adress the need, like bringing in steph to replace Howard E..

If he doesn't address it by the Trade deadline, I would seriously look at other options for our GM.

i think DW has done everything in his power to address the rebounding & size issue while trying to keep the flexibility to target the bigname FA's in free agency... there's only so much a GM can do, it's up to the coach to utilize the pieces he provides to the best of their ability... MDA's penchant to play smallball has made some of DW's acquisitions obsolete.

I'm not sure I could agree with that, you can't give me a few guys to put on the floor and say hey, go rebound the ball... dude our players are completely out of position to rebound anything, even a medincine ball would be a problem.

The small ball thing is suspect, DALLAS had a 3 guard alignment and crushed us on the boards..whats up with that, most of the night it was either tyson or dirk in the middle, and no one else over 6 7"

What about atlanta, they had no one over 6 10" and destoryed us on the boards. What good is flexiblity when your not utilizing it to adress you biggest weakness

actually Dallas was playing 2 7 footers on the court at the same time the entire game... if it wasn't Tyson it was Haywood up front with Dirk... MDA as per usual tried to counter size by playing small ball & trying to shoot his way to a W & once again when his team wasn't hitting their 3's it spelled another L.as for our players being out of position to grab rebounds, that lies on the coaching not on the GM... DW brought in AR a proven young big w/rebounding ability to address the issue this summer & MDA never utilized him... that's not a failing on DW's part... last year we had Darko & Hill on the bench who were both capable of grabbing boards off the bench & instead MDA chose to play Jonathan Bender, a 3 pt shooting weak rebounding big... this is the style of ball MDA likes to play.

Panos wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:This team is still a hot mess, the reason for the improve record, is the attitude more then it's the talent. It's becoming more and more obvious that your going to have to upgrade the roster to really compete.Walsh and MDA are screaming how much they like what they have, the only thing they really like is the fact that no one plays selfish and there's room to improve.

But just when you think a guy has turn the conner( chandler, TD, amare, mosgov, AR, felton) they do a complete 360. for example, we played some locked down defense against chicago, miami, boston, indi, then can't stop no one else, were falling behind by 20+ points only to go on a major run and come up short. I recall this same sht happing the last few seasons..so really how far have we come.

Doing 360's is fine with me. Its the 180's that I worry about.