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1/31/2011  9:20 PM
OldFan wrote:Interesting to me that so many people are focused on his offense. I think that is clearly improving.

I think his defense has gotten better also. But he's a weak rebounder and has trouble guarding the post and dealing with physically strong players. Any improvement he can make in those areas make him a better player and really help this team because those skills are lacking on this team.


People laughed at Gallo and Mike for allowing Gallo to defend on the perimeter against guys who were smaller and quicker, but it's actually worked in his favor, cuz he's gotten better and better at defending guys that are most often smaller and quicker than him. He's on the tall side for a SF but he has proven to be a solid defender for the most part. He makes guys earn their points and is good in the team concept.
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1/31/2011  10:04 PM
Everyone wants Gallo to do somthing! This is very funny! Longer strides, shorter strides, more aggressive, more black, not to white, less jerky, more smooth, speak without accent, prefer he be more emotional, less emotional, keep his elbows off the table, not chew with mouth full, give up his seat on the subway, not tailgate, not use the express line with more than 7 items, pay with cash, leave a better tip, not belch, part his hair differently, run better, not use the guest towels in the wash room, use his turn signal sooner, properly dispose of his belly button lint, and for gods sake they want him to be Larry freaking Bird!

Larry was like 26 when he left Indiana State!

Progress is incremental.

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1/31/2011  10:27 PM
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Ira wrote:The point about Gallo getting stronger is important for the reasons mentioned and because Gallo could develop into a good post up player if he were stronger. He has the length, the touch and the agility, but he does need to get stronger.

i'm having a different feel on this. i don't think posting-up will be his strength. i think the dribble-drive is, which he’s been using more frequently and more effectively. i think added strength/weight and trying to build up an inside game is going to hamper his driving ability. i'd rather keep him loose and more fluid and exploit his movement at that height then try to build up a part of his game that doesn’t seem natural to him and that he also doesn’t seem built for.


Just some more weapons for his arsenal. A 6'10"+ guy at SF has to be able to exploit his size advantage. A few moves of the Duncan/McHale variety and better use of the backboard on his 5'-10' shots is all I ask for.
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1/31/2011  10:28 PM
knicks1248 wrote:The minute he developes a mid range jumper, he will have taken his game to the next level.

Yup.

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1/31/2011  11:23 PM
Nalod wrote:Everyone wants Gallo to do somthing! This is very funny! Longer strides, shorter strides, more aggressive, more black, not to white, less jerky, more smooth, speak without accent, prefer he be more emotional, less emotional, keep his elbows off the table, not chew with mouth full, give up his seat on the subway, not tailgate, not use the express line with more than 7 items, pay with cash, leave a better tip, not belch, part his hair differently, run better, not use the guest towels in the wash room, use his turn signal sooner, properly dispose of his belly button lint, and for gods sake they want him to be Larry freaking Bird!

Larry was like 26 when he left Indiana State!

Progress is incremental.

Less hair gel!

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1/31/2011  11:35 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:The minute he developes a mid range jumper, he will have taken his game to the next level.

Yup.

90% of all great players who played sg/sf/pf are very good mid range shooters, it seperates you from the rest..when he does that I'll be impress or encourage, right now i like the penetration, but 70% of those look forced and almost purposely hoping for a foul..

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2/1/2011  1:54 AM
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Paladin55 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:The minute he developes a mid range jumper, he will have taken his game to the next level.

Yup.

90% of all great players who played sg/sf/pf are very good mid range shooters, it seperates you from the rest..when he does that I'll be impress or encourage, right now i like the penetration, but 70% of those look forced and almost purposely hoping for a foul..


You can say that the midrange J is what makes Amare a different player than when he began.

As for penetration and finishing, Gallo plays like he is 6'1" instead of 6'10" at times, but I think it is something he will gain consistency on as he gets older and becomes more confident in what he can do.

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2/1/2011  5:28 AM
Nalod wrote:Everyone wants Gallo to do somthing! This is very funny! Longer strides, shorter strides, more aggressive, more black, not to white, less jerky, more smooth, speak without accent, prefer he be more emotional, less emotional, keep his elbows off the table, not chew with mouth full, give up his seat on the subway, not tailgate, not use the express line with more than 7 items, pay with cash, leave a better tip, not belch, part his hair differently, run better, not use the guest towels in the wash room, use his turn signal sooner, properly dispose of his belly button lint, and for gods sake they want him to be Larry freaking Bird!

Larry was like 26 when he left Indiana State!

Progress is incremental.

Well working on not chewing with his mouthful is a must.

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2/1/2011  5:57 AM
Andrew wrote:Combined Gallo and Wilson provide less than average rebounding at the forward position, but they are both average rebounders for a SF.

If we're playing Wilson at PF, it doesn't matter how his rebounding compares to other SFs. Gallo's probably 1 to 1.5 RPG below average for an SF.
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2/1/2011  6:53 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:To me, more than anything, I'd like to see Gallo moving even more without the ball which opens up his mid range game. Yeah, he could post up more, but once that mid range game is down pat, he could turn into one of the best scorers in the league. That's a lot easier said than done though. With that said, it speaks volumes that we can now say Gallo "Quietly" had a huge 4th quarter yesterday. We now expect this ish out of him... and that's great.

The expression "moving without the ball" reminds me of the Holzman teams of the early '70s that won our only championships. That was a big part of their offensive philosophy. Also, Kiki Vandeweghe was a master of getting open by moving without the ball and hitting the mid-range. I think it could work well for Gallo, too.

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2/1/2011  7:49 AM
Young players who play inside without the proper "man strength" tend to develop bad injuries early in career. This kid plays plays a great perimeter game and where he gets the ball he is either open on the wing or now drives to the basket. Why stop? Keep going and get the lay up or draw the foul. As we saw against detroit if we get an effective big we get offensive rebounds. If Moz was not getting them Amare was. Amare had a few follow ups in the game. Thats what Moz can do for you.

Am I saying Gallo should not have a post move or mid range move? Of course not. He is a work in progress with a high ceiling.

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2/1/2011  7:54 AM
OldFan wrote:
Nalod wrote:Everyone wants Gallo to do somthing! This is very funny! Longer strides, shorter strides, more aggressive, more black, not to white, less jerky, more smooth, speak without accent, prefer he be more emotional, less emotional, keep his elbows off the table, not chew with mouth full, give up his seat on the subway, not tailgate, not use the express line with more than 7 items, pay with cash, leave a better tip, not belch, part his hair differently, run better, not use the guest towels in the wash room, use his turn signal sooner, properly dispose of his belly button lint, and for gods sake they want him to be Larry freaking Bird!

Larry was like 26 when he left Indiana State!

Progress is incremental.

Well working on not chewing with his mouthful is a must.

the man has GOT to start putting the toilet seat back down after whizzing.

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2/1/2011  9:15 AM
Marv wrote:
OldFan wrote:
Nalod wrote:Everyone wants Gallo to do somthing! This is very funny! Longer strides, shorter strides, more aggressive, more black, not to white, less jerky, more smooth, speak without accent, prefer he be more emotional, less emotional, keep his elbows off the table, not chew with mouth full, give up his seat on the subway, not tailgate, not use the express line with more than 7 items, pay with cash, leave a better tip, not belch, part his hair differently, run better, not use the guest towels in the wash room, use his turn signal sooner, properly dispose of his belly button lint, and for gods sake they want him to be Larry freaking Bird!

Larry was like 26 when he left Indiana State!

Progress is incremental.

Well working on not chewing with his mouthful is a must.

the man has GOT to start putting the toilet seat back down after whizzing.

He has to stick to one hair style for an entire season. Too much time spent on grooming.

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2/1/2011  9:34 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:The minute he developes a mid range jumper, he will have taken his game to the next level.

Yup.

90% of all great players who played sg/sf/pf are very good mid range shooters, it seperates you from the rest..when he does that I'll be impress or encourage, right now i like the penetration, but 70% of those look forced and almost purposely hoping for a foul..


You can say that the midrange J is what makes Amare a different player than when he began.

As for penetration and finishing, Gallo plays like he is 6'1" instead of 6'10" at times, but I think it is something he will gain consistency on as he gets older and becomes more confident in what he can do.

I don't understand this assessment. Gallo when driving to the lane either gets fouled, make a dunk shot or layup shot, or find the open man. What makes him playing like a 6'1" player in your eyes?

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2/1/2011  10:09 AM
big c says gallo has a post game.

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2/1/2011  10:14 AM
Don't think it has been mentioned-Gallo's PPS (points per shot) would be highest in history of the league if he keeps it up. I think its because of all the fouls he draws.
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2/1/2011  10:14 AM
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Paladin55 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:The minute he developes a mid range jumper, he will have taken his game to the next level.

Yup.

90% of all great players who played sg/sf/pf are very good mid range shooters, it seperates you from the rest..when he does that I'll be impress or encourage, right now i like the penetration, but 70% of those look forced and almost purposely hoping for a foul..


You can say that the midrange J is what makes Amare a different player than when he began.

As for penetration and finishing, Gallo plays like he is 6'1" instead of 6'10" at times, but I think it is something he will gain consistency on as he gets older and becomes more confident in what he can do.

I don't understand this assessment. Gallo when driving to the lane either gets fouled, make a dunk shot or layup shot, or find the open man. What makes him playing like a 6'1" player in your eyes?

i agree with paladin. he does puss out sometimes anad throw up some weak little prayer that clanks or gets swatted.

personally i like to see him finish with 2 hands.

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2/1/2011  10:32 AM
I dont want Gallo getting bigger. Work on the baby fat, get some upper body strength but I want more quickness not more muscle. Gallo is a 3, and has a shot at being a GREAT 3. A guy who can beat you off the dribble, destroy smaller SFs or SG types, outquick bigger guys who guard him. A guy who can get to the line, who spreads the floor and who can defend smaller quick players.

The guy is already a good player on a winning team and a huge part of what we do and need to do to win. He's still got star potential

Sorry to pick another white dude to compare him to but I like Detlef Schrempf. A 6'9 combo forward, great passer, AWESOME passer, good rebounder, played both forwards but mostly 3, could really shoot and when you tried get up on him could take you right off the dribble. 3 time all star...

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2/1/2011  10:39 AM
fishmike wrote:I dont want Gallo getting bigger. Work on the baby fat, get some upper body strength but I want more quickness not more muscle. Gallo is a 3, and has a shot at being a GREAT 3. A guy who can beat you off the dribble, destroy smaller SFs or SG types, outquick bigger guys who guard him. A guy who can get to the line, who spreads the floor and who can defend smaller quick players.

The guy is already a good player on a winning team and a huge part of what we do and need to do to win. He's still got star potential

Sorry to pick another white dude to compare him to but I like Detlef Schrempf. A 6'9 combo forward, great passer, AWESOME passer, good rebounder, played both forwards but mostly 3, could really shoot and when you tried get up on him could take you right off the dribble. 3 time all star...

Detlef was the man. Gallo is like a Super Detlef I think, I think he will be a Super Detlef. What a great name, too, Detlef.

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2/1/2011  10:41 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
fishmike wrote:I dont want Gallo getting bigger. Work on the baby fat, get some upper body strength but I want more quickness not more muscle. Gallo is a 3, and has a shot at being a GREAT 3. A guy who can beat you off the dribble, destroy smaller SFs or SG types, outquick bigger guys who guard him. A guy who can get to the line, who spreads the floor and who can defend smaller quick players.

The guy is already a good player on a winning team and a huge part of what we do and need to do to win. He's still got star potential

Sorry to pick another white dude to compare him to but I like Detlef Schrempf. A 6'9 combo forward, great passer, AWESOME passer, good rebounder, played both forwards but mostly 3, could really shoot and when you tried get up on him could take you right off the dribble. 3 time all star...

Detlef was the man. Gallo is like a Super Detlef I think, I think he will be a Super Detlef. What a great name, too, Detlef.

yea well... if Schrempf is your last name you better have a cool first name cause thats a rough handle.

Detlef was a 3x all star and a very good playoff performer... He had a 5-6 year stretch averaging like 18/8/5. Bigtime producer on playoff teams

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Gallo has been impressive since knee injury

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