Bippity10 wrote:I would like to see AR grow with us but on the surface(cannot confirm this of course) it seems like he's not the type of player to play in the pressure cooker of the big city. He may flop here and thrive in a smaller less pressure filled market. I'm okay with trading him as long as we get something legit in return. If this guy blows up, we better have gotten someone that is blowing up with us.

As for AR not playing
1.) He did not earn minutes. He shot 29% and did not appear to fit in our ball movement offense. His play was so bad that it was noticeable when he was on the floor for all the wrong reasons
2.) I wanted to see him get a further look as well, but unfortunately for him Walker and Williams came in and were up and running after 2-3 games. They simply beat him out
3.) He got what 8 or 9 games of being in our rotation. That is 1/9th of the season. That may not be a long time for you. But in the world of "Fire D'Antoni" 1/9 of the season is an eternity.
4.) He has gotten other chances to show something during garbage time and has looked uninspired and has lacked any type of energy. Depresssed or not depressed, if you want to earn minutes and you don't have a lot of practice time then you better be prepared to be the Tazmanian Devil when you do get some minutes. He does not do that. So why would a coach look to him to be the energy guy when the team is flat?
5.) If he has lost his confidence and is pouting he is never going to make it in NY. This town is not for sissies.

Now that's what I am talking about. And the only counter point being made was:

1.) He played a great 24 games last year for a team that went nowehre with no particular style or system before he got injured. So he somehow deserves time. FIRE

martin wrote:

you guys do realize that playing time in earned in practice, right? especially for a guy who is not a starter and has Amare in front of him in the PF position pecking order?

several reporters who have been at practice have said that AR is lackadaisical and still doing the not-so-good thing that he did early in the year.

come on guys, this is not too hard to figure out.

I'll play devil's advocate and say that AR may have realized that he is not going to get real court time no matter what because MDA dislikes his style of play and this has led to his lack of enthusiasm in practice.

Its like the Melo "cloud" hanging over Knicks- who knows how much influence it has on a player's morale?

martin wrote:
you guys do realize that playing time in earned in practice, right? especially for a guy who is not a starter and has Amare in front of him in the PF position pecking order?

several reporters who have been at practice have said that AR is lackadaisical and still doing the not-so-good thing that he did early in the year.

come on guys, this is not too hard to figure out

Youre right it shouldnt be but when youve displayed such a bias in your opinion like these two have always shown its pretty understandable

"I love to play basketball," Randolph said. "This makes me realize how much I love the game. I just have to wait for my opportunity. When it comes, I'll be ready."

Reflecting on his November banishment, Randolph said, "Coach [D'Antoni] found a group he felt more comfortable with, thought he had the best chance of winning and that's what he went with. I try not to think about stuff because it's in the past. When I do get my opportunity, I'll make the best of it."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/randolph_deal_just_isn_true_ReHQesDHqAnKseM17D3GCP#ixzz1BfcksOGA

scoshin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Honestly. Given the minutes to AR, Timo, Walker, Williams in the pre-season and early in the season... Who do you think deserved to be in the rotation? Just look at their performance and not how we obtained them. I think if you look at it fairly, you would agree that Walker and Williams deserved to be in the rotation right now.

Yeah, but AR and Timo provide us something we lack, even with our starting lineup. Walker and Williams don't do anything to help our lack of size. AR and Timo do, so I hope D'Antoni is continuing to develop them on the side, rather than locking them in his doghouse cause they can't shoot jumpers.

Mozgov has a foul rate on par with Karate Chop James and when AR gets the ball, the whole team dynamic breaks. They are trying to put a quality product on the floor. This isn't like being single, needing to get laid, and taking whatever you can get. This team has overachieved thus far and a big reason why is putting the best five on the court and outshooting the other team. I mean, Shawne Williams is hitting 54% of his threes. He's out of the rotation is Mozgov or AR gets some undeserved burn

scoshin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:Honestly. Given the minutes to AR, Timo, Walker, Williams in the pre-season and early in the season... Who do you think deserved to be in the rotation? Just look at their performance and not how we obtained them. I think if you look at it fairly, you would agree that Walker and Williams deserved to be in the rotation right now.

Yeah, but AR and Timo provide us something we lack, even with our starting lineup. Walker and Williams don't do anything to help our lack of size. AR and Timo do, so I hope D'Antoni is continuing to develop them on the side, rather than locking them in his doghouse cause they can't shoot jumpers.

Assistant coaches develop players. The coach is responsible for planning nba situations and repeat them in practice. I blame Herb