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Paladin55
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1/5/2011  2:45 PM
umynot wrote:
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orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

Oh my goodness. This has to be something personal with you and Gallo. To say he does not add anything is just dumb and I don't think you are dumb.

LOL No man, I just think we have the players to replace the shooting Danilo Gallinari provides. Aside from shooting and spacing the floor, he doesn't do anything else.

ISergio you do have something personal against Gallo....

He doesnt score enough for you and thats your beef.......

Saying Gallo does nothing is just dumb..... He doesnt touch ball enough and its not his fault he proved at end of
last year that he can be # 1 option yet doesnt cry about not touching ball!!

He is second to Amare in FT attempts on our team as a fifth option ...... Refs give us no love BTW
when they do that total will rise.

Shoots FT's better then anyone on team!........ Plays tough D and his D rises in the Clutch!!

He is also our most Clutch ballhandler .... Has least amount of TO on the team!!

Gallo is asked to be a role player and he is doing his role QUITE WELL!!

Like Fields, he has actually become a glue player on this team. I would like him to score more, and have not been happy with his outside shooting this year, but on this team, having Gallinari and Fields as opportunistic scorers, good defenders, and willing passers, is really what we need if Amare, Felton, and Chandler are carrying the offense.

In fact, if Gallo was shooting from the outside the way he did his first year, and to a lesser extent last year, this entire thread would have been more of a joke than it has become.

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1/5/2011  3:05 PM
Great post!...Last night's game is evidence...I agree.
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1/5/2011  3:07 PM
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nadavshomron wrote:we must keep chandler here..he is a great player
fields is a great role player
felton is a very good point guard
amare is an all star MVP type player
if we get a top scorer like mello we will be a top nba team

this win against the spurs proved to me we don't need gallo for the long run...we need chandler much more

My thoughts exactly!

Ah yes...the trolls are trolling.

Ah yes!The people who never played the game are posting!

You're a real clever guy, who seems to have little of substance to add to the conversation, but you are still, from the conclusion I have reached from a reading of your limited number of posts and rather simplistic thinking, a troll.


By the way- I've probably been following this sport longer than all but few on UK, and have played a lot of ball in my life, although not on a HS or College team.

I've been critical of Gallo a number of times this season- especially about his inconsistent shooting and the fact that he did not seem to add any post-up moves to his game in the off-season, but I also realize that he has been an important player for this team, and does a lot of things that seem to get overlooked by certain fans.

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1/5/2011  3:08 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
rich1223 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
rich1223 wrote:
nadavshomron wrote:we must keep chandler here..he is a great player
fields is a great role player
felton is a very good point guard
amare is an all star MVP type player
if we get a top scorer like mello we will be a top nba team

this win against the spurs proved to me we don't need gallo for the long run...we need chandler much more

My thoughts exactly!

Ah yes...the trolls are trolling.

Ah yes!The people who never played the game are posting!

You're a real clever guy, who seems to have little of substance to add to the conversation, but you are still, from the conclusion I have reached from a reading of your limited number of posts and rather simplistic thinking, a troll.


By the way- I've probably been following this sport longer than all but few on UK, and have played a lot of ball in my life, although not on a HS or College team.

I've been critical of Gallo a number of times this season- especially about his inconsistent shooting and the fact that he did not seem to add any post-up moves to his game in the off-season, but I also realize that he has been an important player for this team, and does a lot of things that seem to get overlooked by certain fans.

But what's the most points you've scored in a rec league game?

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/5/2011  3:09 PM
iSergio wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

Oh my goodness. This has to be something personal with you and Gallo. To say he does not add anything is just dumb and I don't think you are dumb.

LOL No man, I just think we have the players to replace the shooting Danilo Gallinari provides. Aside from shooting and spacing the floor, he doesn't do anything else.

Honestly, you may not be watching our games if this is what you actually think.

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1/5/2011  3:13 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
rich1223 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
rich1223 wrote:
nadavshomron wrote:we must keep chandler here..he is a great player
fields is a great role player
felton is a very good point guard
amare is an all star MVP type player
if we get a top scorer like mello we will be a top nba team

this win against the spurs proved to me we don't need gallo for the long run...we need chandler much more

My thoughts exactly!

Ah yes...the trolls are trolling.

Ah yes!The people who never played the game are posting!

You're a real clever guy, who seems to have little of substance to add to the conversation, but you are still, from the conclusion I have reached from a reading of your limited number of posts and rather simplistic thinking, a troll.


By the way- I've probably been following this sport longer than all but few on UK, and have played a lot of ball in my life, although not on a HS or College team.

I've been critical of Gallo a number of times this season- especially about his inconsistent shooting and the fact that he did not seem to add any post-up moves to his game in the off-season, but I also realize that he has been an important player for this team, and does a lot of things that seem to get overlooked by certain fans.

But what's the most points you've scored in a rec league game?

Maybe 16, but then again I was a jump shooting, in your face, defensive guy. I never used the term back then, but I guess I was a glue guy.

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1/5/2011  3:15 PM
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kingofelpaso wrote:I think the better question is this:

If Chandler is playing this well and can sustain this level of play, why do we need Carmelo at all? Keep Chandler, Keep Gallo and add pieces.

if Wilson sustains this level of play, then scratch any hope to sign another impact FA this summer cuz he's not gonna be cheap... if Wilson outperforms guys like Luol Deng, Andre Iguodala & Gerald Wallace this season don't u think his agent is gonna be asking for those types of dollars to stay?

his cap hold will still be the same. $6.3M

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1/5/2011  3:15 PM
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Andrew wrote:Why not just trade AR instead?

Yes...please. Save us all...AR for Rubio is awesome IMHO

Now an AR for Rubio trade would be good, as we still don't have a competent backup PG and Rubio can play the 1 or 2.

Dont get me wrong Id do that trade in a second! Rubio can be a special player but he is not a 2! Only way Id let him play there is with a small 2guard like TD in the lineup in order to switch positions on offense and defense.

I dont wanna trade Gallo as I really think he has the potential to be one day what Dirk is now... an almost unstopable offensive player who creates mismatches anywhere on the court.
On the other hand Chandler has developed quite nicely and has stepped up his game big time! Actually I am starting to be less and less interested in Mello and be more interested in the route of picking up smaller pieces like a backup PG (still NOT sold in TD ability to run an offense!) a strong C who rebounds and blocks shots (isnt Turiaf prove that a center might actually get minutes under MDA) like McGee and another strong 2guard like Mayo (perhapes Az can fill that whole too).

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1/5/2011  3:19 PM
Gallo gets to the line at the 2nd best clip on the team. Amar'e 8 and Gallo 5.5. There's more to his game than just taking 3's.
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1/5/2011  3:30 PM
nixluva wrote:Gallo gets to the line at the 2nd best clip on the team. Amar'e 8 and Gallo 5.5. There's more to his game than just taking 3's.

And he makes 4.9 of those to Amar'e's 6.2, interesting stat.

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1/5/2011  8:39 PM
skeng wrote:One thing I wonder about is that if we add Melo, would that ruin the chemistry (on and off the court) we have as of now? I think the dynamics with Felton as the second leader and STAT as the true leader is working well.

I think it's risky thinking that we have to get Stat help right away. A plan I would fully endorse would be adding some depth, a good center and maybe having a project a la Randolph who could be the replacement of Stat. But AR isn't working out so far.

Think 5-6 years ahead. Do you think a core of Chan, Fields, Gallo and MAYBE AR would work?

I'd tend to agree with this statement, if Amare himself wasn't pushing for Melo prior to the season. And he was fairly open about it, wasn't he?

I guess our recent success, he's entitled to change his mind, but all indications were that he embraced the idea of having another superstar to pair up with.

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1/5/2011  9:47 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

Oh my goodness. This has to be something personal with you and Gallo. To say he does not add anything is just dumb and I don't think you are dumb.

LOL No man, I just think we have the players to replace the shooting Danilo Gallinari provides. Aside from shooting and spacing the floor, he doesn't do anything else.

Honestly, you may not be watching our games if this is what you actually think.

I'd agree with Isergio. Gallo is a 6'10" guy who rebounds like a 6'3" guy and doesn't do anything great besides shoot.

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1/5/2011  9:52 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

Oh my goodness. This has to be something personal with you and Gallo. To say he does not add anything is just dumb and I don't think you are dumb.

LOL No man, I just think we have the players to replace the shooting Danilo Gallinari provides. Aside from shooting and spacing the floor, he doesn't do anything else.

Honestly, you may not be watching our games if this is what you actually think.

I'd agree with Isergio. Gallo is a 6'10" guy who rebounds like a 6'3" guy and doesn't do anything great besides shoot.

probably shooting has been the weakest part of his game this year. he D's, passes, drives, gets to the line, goes off on scoring binges. he's settling into a hedo or kukoc role. if you accept who he is and what his games is then you realize that "doesn't do anything great besides shoot" is an inaccurate statement.

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1/5/2011  10:14 PM
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skeng wrote:One thing I wonder about is that if we add Melo, would that ruin the chemistry (on and off the court) we have as of now? I think the dynamics with Felton as the second leader and STAT as the true leader is working well.

I think it's risky thinking that we have to get Stat help right away. A plan I would fully endorse would be adding some depth, a good center and maybe having a project a la Randolph who could be the replacement of Stat. But AR isn't working out so far.

Think 5-6 years ahead. Do you think a core of Chan, Fields, Gallo and MAYBE AR would work?

I'd tend to agree with this statement, if Amare himself wasn't pushing for Melo prior to the season. And he was fairly open about it, wasn't he?

I guess our recent success, he's entitled to change his mind, but all indications were that he embraced the idea of having another superstar to pair up with.

I could be dead wrong in my assessment of Melo's character, but he seems like one of those stars who doesn't necessarily want to lead. He's a follower by nature. In fact, despite being Denver's franchise player, I'm pretty sure he's deferred leadership roles to AI and Billups throughout his career. This personality trait could also be why he's lazy on defense, but tends to bring it in the playoffs against marquee matchups like Kobe. Leaders lead by example. Followers need to be pushed.

If we didn't already have great leadership in Amare/Felton, just getting Melo as our lone star would be a disaster imo, of Marbury proportions. With Amare/Felton, however, I feel Melo would happily just slide in, despite being our #1 option at that point.

The real appeal for me though is the fact that both Melo and Felton won NCAA championships. These guys are proven winners, and Amare's a player who's been to the WCF three times. You also have enough scoring from these 3 alone that you only need role players at SG and C (and we already have a great one in Fields). Get a rebounding/defensive C and we're set. If we somehow manage to keep either Gallo or Chandler too, we have our 6th man as well.

I'm starting to think Varejao should be our target if we do get Melo. Some have said he's not a fit for D'Antoni's system, but if D'Antoni can adapt his offense with Turiaf at C, I'm sure he could do the same with Varejao. Plus, with a trio of Amare/Felton/Melo, scoring shouldn't be an issue, regardless of system.

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1/5/2011  10:14 PM
Marv wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
iSergio wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
iSergio wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:It did NOT prove we don't need Gallinari. Please. Gthot (get the heck out of town) with that ish.

Yes it did. Danilo Gallinari provides nothing and adds nothing that we cannot replace.

Oh my goodness. This has to be something personal with you and Gallo. To say he does not add anything is just dumb and I don't think you are dumb.

LOL No man, I just think we have the players to replace the shooting Danilo Gallinari provides. Aside from shooting and spacing the floor, he doesn't do anything else.

Honestly, you may not be watching our games if this is what you actually think.

I'd agree with Isergio. Gallo is a 6'10" guy who rebounds like a 6'3" guy and doesn't do anything great besides shoot.

probably shooting has been the weakest part of his game this year. he D's, passes, drives, gets to the line, goes off on scoring binges. he's settling into a hedo or kukoc role. if you accept who he is and what his games is then you realize that "doesn't do anything great besides shoot" is an inaccurate statement.


He does those things OK, but not great. If you were to rank him against the other starting SFs in the league on defense or passing, he'd probably be in the middle of the pack.
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1/5/2011  10:31 PM
Not great at passing. Check.
Not great at defense. Check, but he's damn good and well above average. I think he has improved his defense each year.
Not great at rebounding. Well, he plays too far from the rim to grab a lot of boards. But when he's down there, he rips them down just fine, above average.

Other than those areas, he's pretty much great at the scoring stuff (i.e., shooting, driving, finishing - left or right, getting to the stripe, hitting FTs).

Is he a star player yet? Clearly no, since he lacks consistency. But he hasn't reached his ceiling yet, and so who knows where he'll end up. iSergio, you would have us believe Gallo is a bust other than spacing the floor. It begs the question: How many games have you watched?

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1/6/2011  2:10 AM
Moonangie wrote:Not great at passing. Check.
Not great at defense. Check, but he's damn good and well above average. I think he has improved his defense each year.
Not great at rebounding. Well, he plays too far from the rim to grab a lot of boards. But when he's down there, he rips them down just fine, above average.

Other than those areas, he's pretty much great at the scoring stuff (i.e., shooting, driving, finishing - left or right, getting to the stripe, hitting FTs).

Is he a star player yet? Clearly no, since he lacks consistency. But he hasn't reached his ceiling yet, and so who knows where he'll end up. iSergio, you would have us believe Gallo is a bust other than spacing the floor. It begs the question: How many games have you watched?


Playing far from the rim does not affect defensive rebounding, which is where most of your rebounds come from.
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Bonn1997 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Not great at passing. Check.
Not great at defense. Check, but he's damn good and well above average. I think he has improved his defense each year.
Not great at rebounding. Well, he plays too far from the rim to grab a lot of boards. But when he's down there, he rips them down just fine, above average.

Other than those areas, he's pretty much great at the scoring stuff (i.e., shooting, driving, finishing - left or right, getting to the stripe, hitting FTs).

Is he a star player yet? Clearly no, since he lacks consistency. But he hasn't reached his ceiling yet, and so who knows where he'll end up. iSergio, you would have us believe Gallo is a bust other than spacing the floor. It begs the question: How many games have you watched?


Playing far from the rim does not affect defensive rebounding, which is where most of your rebounds come from.

Why wouldn't it? If you are guarding perimeter players you would have less opportunities to rebound shots that occur in the paint.

I'm trying to figure out what is a good rebounding number for a small forward. Gallo is no great rebounder, probably never will be, but tell me what number you think would put him the the average or acceptable rebounding range for his position.

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