misterearl wrote:The Answer Man Sat About Seven Rows Back At Cox Pavillion In Las Vegas For Summer League in 2007

TMS - Wilson will never be the rebounder that Marion was in his prime.

AM - Shawn Marion will never have the raw strength, humility, outside range, stone cold poker face, defensive chops or the dreadlocks The Mayor appears to be contemplating

Q. bonn1997 - What if we were to get rid of Moz and AR this year for expiring contracts?

A. Mozgov is not going anywhere either. He is an investment. A project. Donnie Walnuts knows don't cut bait on investments before they mature. Ditto Anthony Randolph.

Q. bonn1997 - Is there any way to re-sign Chandler this off-season and still have room to give Carmelo a max contract?

A. Donnie Walsh is not signing Carmelo to a max contract. The old man is smarter than many give him credit and already is scoping out Lithuania for a center

misterearl, we want Nene at center. we can pay Nene $13M and keep all the youngsters.

crzymdups wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Mayor Takes Office

Only in New York would a player have a near-flawless 31 point performance against the best team in the league, and he would be the subject of idle trade speculation.

Shawn Marion?

Gimme a break. Shawn Marion has the ugliest shot this side of Jamal Wilkes. If Marion ever dreamed of banging inside as strong, and with as much amazing grace, as Wilson Chandler he needs to wake up and apologize. After a game like like last night, why is it important to dwell on comparing Wilson Chandler to Shawn Marion in the first place?

Why not compare him to the player he matched up against?

Wilson Chandler will only continue to improve.

I agree, Wilson is much smoother than Marion ever was - with a bigger offensive repertoire and a much better jumper. Marion shot like 31% from 3 in his years in Phoenix. Marion was a FAR superior rebounder to Wilson, at least so far, and I think that's one area Wilson can improve in. Wilson is athletic enough that he should be getting 8 rebounds a night. He's getting there, but he can improve.

His icy demeanor used to be a kind of turn off - but now it just seems to be a perfect fit with the other fiery personalities of Ray and Amar'e.

Long live the Mayor.

Marion was truly awesome in Phoenix.
As far as 3 point shooting goes, both he and Wilson are career 33% shooters. Wilson is having a career year at 39% and in his career top seasons, Marion also approached 40% (but also put up 22 and 12 type #s). Wilson has a ways to go before he reaches the level Marion played at in his prime but he's still playing great.

23 Years Old!

That's something we really need to look at. He has been injured during the offseason and hasn't been able to take the next step because of it. He is healthy and is one of the most physically gifted players in the entire league.

Rudy Gay got stupid money is the only concern here. I don't go near Melo. For one with STAT and him on the floor we would lead the league in T's and if you give Wilson the offensive freedom that melo has shooting it 18-20 times a game the numbers will be similiar.

Gallo is the kid that needs to be brought off the bench to strength the second unit with TD.

Now if the Knicks did get Melo as well as a legitimate Center, where would Chandler fit in? come off the bench for Stat and/or Melo? play the 2 and let Fields come off the bench? point is, Melo is a much better Chandler.
Trade Gallo and Chandler BUT KEEP FIELDS!

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/the-knicks-fix-1.812055/knicks-headed-back-where-this-all-started-1.2587596?showAll=true

I would love to see the Knicks become a team with a consistent culture and basketball philosophy. It's gotta be nice to come into a team with the same coach and the same offense for consecutive seasons. Like Jerry Sloan/Utah and Popovich/San Antonio. The Celtics and Lakers have had that advantage now for their current runs and it looks like OKC is trying to do that with Scotty Brooks and their core.

Thats the only way to go, keep your core 6/7 guys, but playing guys like AR just to get minutes, gets coaches fired, then you start all over with a different philosphy but the same players, then the confusion, trades, and BS comes.

SlimChin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:I'm a big Wilson Chandler fan but the Knicks' priority should be getting Carmelo Anthony as well as acquiring a starting center. We need size! We get killed on the boards—even against teams with a mediocre front court. Stat is not a true center IMO.

Now if the Knicks did get Melo as well as a legitimate Center, where would Chandler fit in? come off the bench for Stat and/or Melo? play the 2 and let Fields come off the bench? point is, Melo is a much better Chandler.
Trade Gallo and Chandler BUT KEEP FIELDS!

The Knicks would have far more money and assets available to get a center if they kept Chandler instead of getting Melo. It's probably either Melo or Chandler plus a good center.

I'm not even talking about getting a superstar center—just a big man that can scrap under the boards and shag rebounds.

I doubt you can get that if you add Carmelo. You're not gonna have any FA money available and you're not going to have any assets left that you would want to get rid of.

scoshin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:I'm a big Wilson Chandler fan but the Knicks' priority should be getting Carmelo Anthony as well as acquiring a starting center. We need size! We get killed on the boards—even against teams with a mediocre front court. Stat is not a true center IMO.

Now if the Knicks did get Melo as well as a legitimate Center, where would Chandler fit in? come off the bench for Stat and/or Melo? play the 2 and let Fields come off the bench? point is, Melo is a much better Chandler.
Trade Gallo and Chandler BUT KEEP FIELDS!

The Knicks would have far more money and assets available to get a center if they kept Chandler instead of getting Melo. It's probably either Melo or Chandler plus a good center.

I'm not even talking about getting a superstar center—just a big man that can scrap under the boards and shag rebounds.

I doubt you can get that if you add Carmelo. You're not gonna have any FA money available and you're not going to have any assets left that you would want to get rid of.

Wasn't that same argument made for Miami when their frontcourt had just Bosh?

SlimChin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

scoshin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:I'm a big Wilson Chandler fan but the Knicks' priority should be getting Carmelo Anthony as well as acquiring a starting center. We need size! We get killed on the boards—even against teams with a mediocre front court. Stat is not a true center IMO.

Now if the Knicks did get Melo as well as a legitimate Center, where would Chandler fit in? come off the bench for Stat and/or Melo? play the 2 and let Fields come off the bench? point is, Melo is a much better Chandler.
Trade Gallo and Chandler BUT KEEP FIELDS!

The Knicks would have far more money and assets available to get a center if they kept Chandler instead of getting Melo. It's probably either Melo or Chandler plus a good center.

I'm not even talking about getting a superstar center—just a big man that can scrap under the boards and shag rebounds.

I doubt you can get that if you add Carmelo. You're not gonna have any FA money available and you're not going to have any assets left that you would want to get rid of.

Wasn't that same argument made for Miami when their frontcourt had just Bosh?

If you're talking about getting someone like Big Z to play 15 mpg, then yeah we could get that. I thought you had something better in mind.

exactly. just a big body in the paint.

He's going to want big $.

scoshin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:I'm a big Wilson Chandler fan but the Knicks' priority should be getting Carmelo Anthony as well as acquiring a starting center. We need size! We get killed on the boards—even against teams with a mediocre front court. Stat is not a true center IMO.

Now if the Knicks did get Melo as well as a legitimate Center, where would Chandler fit in? come off the bench for Stat and/or Melo? play the 2 and let Fields come off the bench? point is, Melo is a much better Chandler.
Trade Gallo and Chandler BUT KEEP FIELDS!

The Knicks would have far more money and assets available to get a center if they kept Chandler instead of getting Melo. It's probably either Melo or Chandler plus a good center.

I'm not even talking about getting a superstar center—just a big man that can scrap under the boards and shag rebounds.

I doubt you can get that if you add Carmelo. You're not gonna have any FA money available and you're not going to have any assets left that you would want to get rid of.

Wasn't that same argument made for Miami when their frontcourt had just Bosh?

C'mon man. That was the biggest case of collusion perpetrated in modern day sports. And then when the two boobs sat for the picture waiting for the third boob, you had to know that the fix was in

SlimChin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

scoshin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:I'm a big Wilson Chandler fan but the Knicks' priority should be getting Carmelo Anthony as well as acquiring a starting center. We need size! We get killed on the boards—even against teams with a mediocre front court. Stat is not a true center IMO.

Now if the Knicks did get Melo as well as a legitimate Center, where would Chandler fit in? come off the bench for Stat and/or Melo? play the 2 and let Fields come off the bench? point is, Melo is a much better Chandler.
Trade Gallo and Chandler BUT KEEP FIELDS!

The Knicks would have far more money and assets available to get a center if they kept Chandler instead of getting Melo. It's probably either Melo or Chandler plus a good center.

I'm not even talking about getting a superstar center—just a big man that can scrap under the boards and shag rebounds.

I doubt you can get that if you add Carmelo. You're not gonna have any FA money available and you're not going to have any assets left that you would want to get rid of.

Wasn't that same argument made for Miami when their frontcourt had just Bosh?

If you're talking about getting someone like Big Z to play 15 mpg, then yeah we could get that. I thought you had something better in mind.

exactly. just a big body in the paint.

well then what are you going to do during the other 33 mpg?