crzymdups wrote:I had huge hopes for AR, but what I saw from him in training camp and early in the season it looked like injuries might have robbed his elite leaping ability and he didn't have near the same motor (which to me is more effort than athleticism). And, his confidence was clearly shaken.

At some point you can blame all of these issues or just the confidence issues on the coach - maybe the coach should build him up, etc. But at some point the player must be accountable. D'Antoni has built up the confidence and worked well with Landry Fields, Wilson Chandler for three years, Gallinari for three years, Toney Douglas, David Lee, Raymond Felton, Shawne Williams, Amar'e Stoudemire (since he was 20yrs old), Barbosa, Joe Johnson, Marion, the list goes on and on.

Players who haven't worked out with D'Antoni? Anthony Randolph (so far, let's hope he gets it), Jordan Hill, Darko, Eddy Curry, Andy Rautins, Nate Robinson, Larry Hughes...

There is a list of players who haven't worked here, but there's a substantial list of players who have blossomed. Wilson Chandler has been incredible this season. As has Landry Fields. Gallo is still developing. Felton and Amare are playing the best ball of their careers.

I hope AR (and Kelenna) can contribute this season... but if not... we can find other guys who can. I'd really love to see AR make it here though.

True. The problem for AR is that he's playing the same positions as Will, Gallo and Stat, so minutes are already hard to come by. When AR screws up on the court, has options to replace him. Timmy got the benefit of the doubt because there really isn't anyone to push him at center. Yeah, AR is talented, but nothing is going to be handed to him. Will is trying to earn himself a contract and Gallo has a chip on his shoulder as well. When Gallo was struggled earlier this season, sat him down. Gallo didn't pout. Will, the same thing. He didn't sulk when benched him for Fields, he kept working and stepped his game up. Ar needs to keep his head up, keep working and take advantage of his next opportunity.

Bippity10 wrote:Injuries will occur and guys will struggle. Minutes will be available for AR this season. Hopefully he is working hard to snatch those minutes when they present themselves and is not pouting like some suggest.

MDA is going to pull a Hoosier before he puts AR out there. He will play with 4 players.

TD has done all he's can to single handedly lose us games on the offensive end thus far. I cannot possibly see how much worse AR could be on the offensive end than he is.

i have written countless posts on this subject. He needs to see some floor time because he's the difference between a first round exit or a deeper playoff run for us THIS year. i think that's something worth putting a lot of effort into developing and i just think it's being wasted right now.

FistOfOakley wrote:If AR never plays a minute for us and he gets traded for Telfair, that is a failure on dantoni moreso than anyone else. this team needs someone to grab a rebound. fields' emergence has softened teh blow somewhat but i have no doubt without fields we'd be soemwhere around dead to last in rebounding and we are not good enough defensively to give away more possessions. He's better than everyone on the roster at rebounding yet he has not gotten the same opportunity as some other folks even though he's proven that he can do much more on this level.

TD has done all he's can to single handedly lose us games on the offensive end thus far. I cannot possibly see how much worse AR could be on the offensive end than he is.

i have written countless posts on this subject. He needs to see some floor time because he's the difference between a first round exit or a deeper playoff run for us THIS year. i think that's something worth putting a lot of effort into developing and i just think it's being wasted right now.

All I know is he couldn't get off the bench in Golden State, now here, and most of the highlights I've seen have been of him crying and/or having nervous breakdowns on the bench. I'm more willing to give a pass on this one than, say, Walsh

TMS wrote:

iSergio wrote:Eddy Curry once averaged 19 and 7 and Chris Duhon once averaged 12 and 8. Bad players play well every now and then. But overall, they are bad players. Just like Anthony Randolph.

well then that begs the question, why the hell did we trade for AR to begin with? we used up our most valuable asset into this kid, shouldn't we at least see if he can contribute to what we're trying to do before we cast him off like yesterday's newspaper the way we did with Jordan Hill? i don't wanna see that kind of wasting of assets anymore... we don't have the luxury to be throwing away assets in this manner... we gotta get the absolute most out of every asset we own.

I think its a classic case of our GM and coach not being on the same page. Walsh hired MDA because, in his opinion he was the best coach on the market at the time and had the rep as being a players coach who Walsh thought could help him recruit players to NY. But clearly, they seem to differ in philosphy. Just listening to Walsh speak, he's more of a defensive minded, pound it in the paint type of GM. He's always speaking of adding big men, and playing defense. It seems as if Walsh was behind the Hill pick aswell as the Randolph trade but the coach didn't/hasn't found too much use for them thus far. Walsh has relented to MDA's wishes for far by moving Hill and if he moves Randolph, that will let everyone know ho much power MDA has right now. Walsh was falling over himself when he traded for Randolph and now he's going to trade him less then half of a season after he just got him?

Marv wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:2 years ago Anthony Mason averaged 30 minutes 12 points, shot 43 percent from 3 and was a solid back up pg for the San Antonio Spurs. We could really use a back up PG at this point. How come nobody is killing D'Antoni for not playing him and putting him in the "doghouse"

cuz he's fat, supposed to be be working with eddy curry and has too much of a taste for underage girls.

Damn you, Can't make mistakes on this.

Marv wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:2 years ago Anthony Mason averaged 30 minutes 12 points, shot 43 percent from 3 and was a solid back up pg for the San Antonio Spurs. We could really use a back up PG at this point. How come nobody is killing D'Antoni for not playing him and putting him in the "doghouse"

cuz he's fat, supposed to be be working with eddy curry and has too much of a taste for underage girls.

Bippity10 wrote:2 years ago Roger Mason averaged 30 minutes 12 points, shot 43 percent from 3 and was a solid back up pg for the San Antonio Spurs. We could really use a back up PG at this point. How come nobody is killing D'Antoni for not playing him and putting him in the "doghouse"

because we didn't use up any valuable assets to get him... he was a FA signing on a low money 1 year deal... if he doesn't play it's no big loss... we traded our Allstar PF to bring in AR, it would suck to let him continue to waste away on the bench & kill his trade value even further... it's the waste of assets that i object to here... same as when we used up a lottery pick to take Jordan Hill but never found him any minutes in the rotation... it leaves a bad taste & is suggestive of a bigger problem that may exist between our head coach & GM in terms of the types of player acquisitions we should make going forward.