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nixluva
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1/1/2011  12:23 AM
Those who think that they've seen the best of Gallo are really gonna feel stupid as he continues to develop over the rest of his career. He's been making progress and to compare him to Chan who has played 214 NBA games while Gallo has had 141. It makes sense that Chan would be ahead of him at this stage. Some felt Chan was never going to improve beyond what he had been the 2 previous years. I say Donnie is no fool and will be patient knowing what can happen as you let players develop.

I still believe that our biggest issue isn't scoring and that Donnie's best move may just be to add a player like Verajao and a guy like Mayo. I think longterm that would be a much stronger team and keep a reasonable cap number. If Melo wasn't such a difficult if not impossible deal to make then OK, but Denver is not playing ball.

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1/1/2011  12:30 AM
Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.
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1/1/2011  1:04 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

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1/1/2011  1:30 AM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.

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1/1/2011  8:51 AM
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.


Gallo leads our team in points per shot and in true shooting percentage (a better but more complex stat on offensive efficiency). The only thing stopping him from being a lot closer to Dirk than he currently is is his lack of desire. And if he's gonna put up low production in all other areas of the game (rebounds, assists, blocks, steals), then we need much more scoring from him.
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1/1/2011  10:44 AM
We don't know what Donnie is offering.

We don't know what Nuggies would want from us.

We don't know how CBA affects melo's money.

We don't know how Melo can be effective in getting the most amount of money to a team/City he wants and they are ready to win.

We don't know really how MDA/Donnie thinks Melo's game would blend in with the system.

And we don't know who the players would be that would be left on this team.

That is huge. Stars are great but the team concept of SSOL is how the team succeeds. Even in games where the defense steps up!

The closest thing I can think of with Melo as an upgrade is him playing where chandler does on this team. A knick team without gallo and fields (two starters) takes on a whole new complexion which I can't envision. I can only see Melo.

Regarding Gallo, He is the 4th option unless hot. Landry and him have the rare ability to play well off the ball.

Thats my take. Don't matter what I think. Its what donnie and think.

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1/1/2011  10:45 AM
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Put Gallo at center and run the offense through him. He is tough enough and would embrace the challenge of facing big guys. Gallinari loves contact and plays rough when he needs to. Forget he foul problems, the refs will adjust to him.

Amear has less opportunity for turnovers and forced shots in the paint at forward. Adjust his spot on the floor outside the paint rather than inside the box.

The Mayor compliments Gallo with a nice inside-outside game. Chandler is on the way to borderline all star status as his comfort level grows.

Ninja Fields does his invisible contribution thing and has a play run for him every once in a while.

Ray Felton and Gallo develop chemistry in the pick and roll

Play Gallo at center.

He is still growing

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1/1/2011  11:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/1/2011  12:00 PM
rename this thread, the briggs flip flop on the flip flop. knicks fans bipolar. pfft. what else is knew.
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1/1/2011  12:50 PM
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.

his own coach has tried to mold him into a Bird-Lite, even gave him a video of Bird to study how he plays & his mannerisms, but Gallo still seems to be content to blend into the background on most nights... this is why i don't see him ever becoming a featured player on this team... it takes more than talent & ability to become a star in the NBA... u have to WANT it... bad... i dunno if Gallo wants it... he's got a role player's mentality right now, not one of a star.

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1/1/2011  7:59 PM
TMS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.

his own coach has tried to mold him into a Bird-Lite, even gave him a video of Bird to study how he plays & his mannerisms, but Gallo still seems to be content to blend into the background on most nights... this is why i don't see him ever becoming a featured player on this team... it takes more than talent & ability to become a star in the NBA... u have to WANT it... bad... i dunno if Gallo wants it... he's got a role player's mentality right now, not one of a star.

My question is whats wrong with a role players mentality? On every championship team, you need players that has a defined role. I'm fine with Galo being a role player. Chandler is a budding star, and doesn't see himself as a role player. He clearly doesn't have a defined role yet. Stuck between role player and super star. Use that value as a trading chip, and replace him with Melo, since Chandler will cost you more in the long run. Trust me, I want to keep Chandler like everybody else. He's one of my favorite two way players. But if it's financially impossible to keep both him and melo, I say trade him now for a sure fire alstar in melo.

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1/1/2011  8:12 PM
blkexec wrote:
TMS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.

his own coach has tried to mold him into a Bird-Lite, even gave him a video of Bird to study how he plays & his mannerisms, but Gallo still seems to be content to blend into the background on most nights... this is why i don't see him ever becoming a featured player on this team... it takes more than talent & ability to become a star in the NBA... u have to WANT it... bad... i dunno if Gallo wants it... he's got a role player's mentality right now, not one of a star.

My question is whats wrong with a role players mentality? On every championship team, you need players that has a defined role. I'm fine with Galo being a role player. Chandler is a budding star, and doesn't see himself as a role player. He clearly doesn't have a defined role yet. Stuck between role player and super star. Use that value as a trading chip, and replace him with Melo, since Chandler will cost you more in the long run. Trust me, I want to keep Chandler like everybody else. He's one of my favorite two way players. But if it's financially impossible to keep both him and melo, I say trade him now for a sure fire alstar in melo.

nothing wrong w/a role player's mentality but when you invest a #6 overall pick on a guy you hope for him to be something more... i'm not saying Gallo's reached his ceiling, but sometimes i wonder if he'll ever take the jump to that next level... a lot of times he seems all too happy to blend into the background & be a role guy... i agree, every championship team needs good role players, but that definitely was not what i was hoping to get out of Gallo when we first drafted him.

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1/1/2011  10:27 PM
blkexec wrote:
TMS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.

his own coach has tried to mold him into a Bird-Lite, even gave him a video of Bird to study how he plays & his mannerisms, but Gallo still seems to be content to blend into the background on most nights... this is why i don't see him ever becoming a featured player on this team... it takes more than talent & ability to become a star in the NBA... u have to WANT it... bad... i dunno if Gallo wants it... he's got a role player's mentality right now, not one of a star.

My question is whats wrong with a role players mentality? On every championship team, you need players that has a defined role. I'm fine with Galo being a role player. Chandler is a budding star, and doesn't see himself as a role player. He clearly doesn't have a defined role yet. Stuck between role player and super star. Use that value as a trading chip, and replace him with Melo, since Chandler will cost you more in the long run. Trust me, I want to keep Chandler like everybody else. He's one of my favorite two way players. But if it's financially impossible to keep both him and melo, I say trade him now for a sure fire alstar in melo.


There's nothing wrong with a role player's mentality if that's all the player is physically capable of being. If the player is capable of more, then it's wrong and frustrating if he only wants to be a role player.
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1/2/2011  9:51 AM
TMS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
TMS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.

his own coach has tried to mold him into a Bird-Lite, even gave him a video of Bird to study how he plays & his mannerisms, but Gallo still seems to be content to blend into the background on most nights... this is why i don't see him ever becoming a featured player on this team... it takes more than talent & ability to become a star in the NBA... u have to WANT it... bad... i dunno if Gallo wants it... he's got a role player's mentality right now, not one of a star.

My question is whats wrong with a role players mentality? On every championship team, you need players that has a defined role. I'm fine with Galo being a role player. Chandler is a budding star, and doesn't see himself as a role player. He clearly doesn't have a defined role yet. Stuck between role player and super star. Use that value as a trading chip, and replace him with Melo, since Chandler will cost you more in the long run. Trust me, I want to keep Chandler like everybody else. He's one of my favorite two way players. But if it's financially impossible to keep both him and melo, I say trade him now for a sure fire alstar in melo.

nothing wrong w/a role player's mentality but when you invest a #6 overall pick on a guy you hope for him to be something more... i'm not saying Gallo's reached his ceiling, but sometimes i wonder if he'll ever take the jump to that next level... a lot of times he seems all too happy to blend into the background & be a role guy... i agree, every championship team needs good role players, but that definitely was not what i was hoping to get out of Gallo when we first drafted him.

Not only that, but you really gotta question the fire inside to reach max potential..I mean didn't this kid come out not too long ago and say that he wasn't a star player or something? WTF was that all about? Talk about selling yourself short. Correct me if I'm wrong but I even think D'Antoni agreed with him..

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1/2/2011  10:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/2/2011  10:18 AM
I'd keep Landry Fields over Wilson Chandler. Adding Carmelo Anthony limits Chandler's role on the team. That's not the case with Fields. He's like our Charles Oakley at SG. Fields does all the dirty work and is the glue player every winning team needs. I also expect Fields to develop into an elite perimeter defender by next season.

Chandler, Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph for Melo. I'd also look to add more players to the trade and get Chris "Birdman" Andersen, who can be that big man we need in the frontcourt.

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1/2/2011  10:49 AM
iSergio wrote:I'd keep Landry Fields over Wilson Chandler. Adding Carmelo Anthony limits Chandler's role on the team. That's not the case with Fields. He's like our Charles Oakley at SG. Fields does all the dirty work and is the glue player every winning team needs. I also expect Fields to develop into an elite perimeter defender by next season.

Chandler, Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph for Melo. I'd also look to add more players to the trade and get Chris "Birdman" Andersen, who can be that big man we need in the frontcourt.

I agree that this is the most realistic deal. As long as fields continues to improve his outside shooting he can be the longterm fit at SG. Also I would expect to get al harrington back in a deal which is a good thing because he isn't as good as Chandler but provide the scoring punch off the bench.

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1/2/2011  11:13 AM
Knixkik wrote:
iSergio wrote:I'd keep Landry Fields over Wilson Chandler. Adding Carmelo Anthony limits Chandler's role on the team. That's not the case with Fields. He's like our Charles Oakley at SG. Fields does all the dirty work and is the glue player every winning team needs. I also expect Fields to develop into an elite perimeter defender by next season.

Chandler, Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph for Melo. I'd also look to add more players to the trade and get Chris "Birdman" Andersen, who can be that big man we need in the frontcourt.

I agree that this is the most realistic deal. As long as fields continues to improve his outside shooting he can be the longterm fit at SG. Also I would expect to get al harrington back in a deal which is a good thing because he isn't as good as Chandler but provide the scoring punch off the bench.

i think that's the most realistic option & actually the one i think would make the most sense... Landry can play around anyone, that's just the type of player he is... the fact that he isn't looked upon to touch the ball too much in this offense frees him up to make plays off the ball, swoop in for putbacks off other guys' misses, etc... he could continue to excel in what he's doing playing next to a guy like Melo easily... dunno if u can say the same about Wilson or Gallo if they had to share touches with Melo.

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Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
TMS wrote:
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has been disappointing but he also has had enough big games a Knick to earn some time to prove himself and adjust. It took Felton awhile to stop the daily Chris Paul threads and he is an established vet. Hopefully Gallo gets back on track and starts to fulfill his potential as a Knick.

It makes you wish you could get into the Knicks lockerroom and talk to Gallo and Say "Dude! Don't blend in. DOMINATE!!!" Freakin don't give up the ball when you get it, be selfish more often. We need you to take over and take more shots. Demand the ball like you're Ewing in '94.

See...thats the problem. Everybody is tryingto force Gallo to be this Bird / Dirk type super star. Let Gallo be who he is. He already said he's not a superstar, so lock him up long term, and pay him as a role player.

his own coach has tried to mold him into a Bird-Lite, even gave him a video of Bird to study how he plays & his mannerisms, but Gallo still seems to be content to blend into the background on most nights... this is why i don't see him ever becoming a featured player on this team... it takes more than talent & ability to become a star in the NBA... u have to WANT it... bad... i dunno if Gallo wants it... he's got a role player's mentality right now, not one of a star.

My question is whats wrong with a role players mentality? On every championship team, you need players that has a defined role. I'm fine with Galo being a role player. Chandler is a budding star, and doesn't see himself as a role player. He clearly doesn't have a defined role yet. Stuck between role player and super star. Use that value as a trading chip, and replace him with Melo, since Chandler will cost you more in the long run. Trust me, I want to keep Chandler like everybody else. He's one of my favorite two way players. But if it's financially impossible to keep both him and melo, I say trade him now for a sure fire alstar in melo.

nothing wrong w/a role player's mentality but when you invest a #6 overall pick on a guy you hope for him to be something more... i'm not saying Gallo's reached his ceiling, but sometimes i wonder if he'll ever take the jump to that next level... a lot of times he seems all too happy to blend into the background & be a role guy... i agree, every championship team needs good role players, but that definitely was not what i was hoping to get out of Gallo when we first drafted him.

Not only that, but you really gotta question the fire inside to reach max potential..I mean didn't this kid come out not too long ago and say that he wasn't a star player or something? WTF was that all about? Talk about selling yourself short. Correct me if I'm wrong but I even think D'Antoni agreed with him..

yeah, that's another thing that was bothersome about Gallo... when he first got here i thought he wanted to be a superstar & was willing to take on the challenge... obviously he isn't one yet, but u never wanna hear ur future franchise guy say something like that... which begs the question, is he really a future franchise guy? is he star material? sometimes he makes me think he is, but then other times he strikes me as a Hedo Turkoglu style supporting role player... inconsistency is what separates the real stars from the lower tier guys that have the talent but can't quite put it all together.

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Im down with Gallo Randolph and fields for Melo

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