Marv - Gallinari is like the fighter who needs to get hit to be motivated. Gallo loves contact. Hit him and he takes it very personally. He punches back. Gallo is still growing into his 6'11 frame. He may not have topped out height-wise either. A legit seven footer. Unlike Andrew Bynum, Gallo plays with genuine emotion.

Danilo can refine his rebounding technique and be deployed as an impossible cover on the perimeter. Another Summer in the weight room and he will not be pushed around.

You do the math.

holfresh wrote:

TMS wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TMS wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

TMS wrote:if DEN is left w/no other choice but to trade him to NY or lose him for nothing in free agency, then i think a reasonable offer to make would be either Wilson or Gallo plus AR & contract filler & whatever picks we can get our hands on... i don't think we would need to include Fields... DEN will no doubt ask for both Gallo & Wilson to be included but at that point will they have much bargaining strength to make any types of demands?

Thats not reasonable. Melo is a superstar. 2 out of Wilson, Chandler, Fields will have to go plus Curry and pick. Thats fair.

like i said in my last post, i'd go as far as Wilson & Gallo plus filler for Melo as long as we could hold onto Fields... i think that's more than reasonable.

I keep reading this and I don't fully understand...Let's say u are the Knicks GM...Denver comes to you and say I want Gallo and Fields or Chandler and Fields for Melo, You would then say no, Fields is untouchable?

Yes. Thats what he's saying. Fields is an unreplaceable talent. lol. I forgot how fanatical we can be about our players.

Killa I dont understand...I mean I really like Fields too, but this is Melo...

did u not read my response above or do u just wanna insert ur own definitions to someone else's comments? i just got done saying i don't consider Fields an untouchable, but out of the 3 young guys we have, he'd be the last one i'd be willing to include in any trade... i also said i wouldn't give up all 3 of them to get Melo... i guess you would?

Yes I read what you said...I didn't mean to respond to Killa in that conversation, mistake there...I would have to think of trading all three tho...but two of out three for me is a no brainer...Melo has the talent to have the Knicks compete with Boston and Miami..Losing 2 of Fields, Chandler or Gallo won't change that...Winning will quickly make me forget about the draft picks we lost....

2 of the 3 for Melo is an acceptable tradeoff but i don't see how Melo could replace all 3 of their production by himself... that's just too much to give up... all 3 are highly promising young players & Denver isn't exactly in any position to be making outrageous demands considering Melo has the last say on where he will end up... do u really think he'd want his new team that he's gonna be playing on for the next several years to clear the decks of all of their best young talent to get him? i don't... & again, i don't see any way DW does it either... he's made it clear he's not going to gut the roster for any single player, Melo or otherwise.

misterearl wrote:"i don't see gallo at center. that doesn't seem to be where he's comfortable on the court."

Marv - Gallinari is like the fighter who needs to get hit to be motivated. Gallo loves contact. Hit him and he takes it very personally. He punches back. Gallo is still growing into his 6'11 frame. He may not have topped out height-wise either. A legit seven footer. Unlike Andrew Bynum, Gallo plays with genuine emotion.

Danilo can refine his rebounding technique and be deployed as an impossible cover on the perimeter. Another Summer in the weight room and he will not be pushed around.

You do the math.

nah i don’t see it. he would have shown some center sensibilities by now if he had them. andrew bynum at age 18 posted shaq, did a spin move, dunked in shaq's face and gave him a forearm shiver up court for good measure. of course shaq then deposited him straight on his ass but you get my point

gallo's advantage in this league is his combo of outside touch and drive to the hoop at his height. at center he'd be at best bargnani, who in my opinion is the worst center in the league and a total pu**ey. (that's right dj, you lurking bastard. you don't like it, 6 rounds with no headgear outside msg. and you gotta make weight you fat bastard. bwahahahaha).

TMS wrote:
actually no, that's not what i'm saying... i never said Fields is unreplaceable... i said i think he's probably harder to replace in our roster than a guy like Gallo or Wilson because he brings different types of intangibles that u can't quantify w/simple stats, so because of that i'd rather hold onto him if we had a choice... IMO i think we can reasonably be able to hold onto him & still put together a more than reasonable package of talent to get Melo to NY... if DEN comes to me & says they want Gallo & Fields or Chandler & Fields for Melo or else nothing, i probably do it, but only as a last resort... i've said all along if we can hold onto at least 1 out of those 3 guys & still get Melo, it's a deal i would do... i wouldn't give away all 3 of those guys, & neither do i think DW would do that either.

Ok TMS i take it back, u are not a raving madman. ur just a regular madman. lol

If I'm Denver, I'm taking AR and Curry, I guess, to make the cash match, and counting my lucky stars I got anything in return.

Now, if you're talking about including a Nene or something else, then we can talk a Chandler, but never a Gallo or Fields, still.

TMS wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

TMS wrote:
actually no, that's not what i'm saying... i never said Fields is unreplaceable... i said i think he's probably harder to replace in our roster than a guy like Gallo or Wilson because he brings different types of intangibles that u can't quantify w/simple stats, so because of that i'd rather hold onto him if we had a choice... IMO i think we can reasonably be able to hold onto him & still put together a more than reasonable package of talent to get Melo to NY... if DEN comes to me & says they want Gallo & Fields or Chandler & Fields for Melo or else nothing, i probably do it, but only as a last resort... i've said all along if we can hold onto at least 1 out of those 3 guys & still get Melo, it's a deal i would do... i wouldn't give away all 3 of those guys, & neither do i think DW would do that either.

Ok TMS i take it back, u are not a raving madman. ur just a regular madman. lol

ur giving up all 3 of those guys for Melo then i take it... do u think DW is gonna do that?

No Im just teasing u. I agree with giving up 2 of 3 plus curry plus pick plus cash. If need be, AR too. but not all 3 of LF, WC + Gallo. THats too much.

HOwever, honestly, if we had to, I'd do it. We can sign trade for and draft role players, you can't really get top tier talent and when you have the chance you have to do it.

TMS wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TMS wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TMS wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

TMS wrote:if DEN is left w/no other choice but to trade him to NY or lose him for nothing in free agency, then i think a reasonable offer to make would be either Wilson or Gallo plus AR & contract filler & whatever picks we can get our hands on... i don't think we would need to include Fields... DEN will no doubt ask for both Gallo & Wilson to be included but at that point will they have much bargaining strength to make any types of demands?

Thats not reasonable. Melo is a superstar. 2 out of Wilson, Chandler, Fields will have to go plus Curry and pick. Thats fair.

like i said in my last post, i'd go as far as Wilson & Gallo plus filler for Melo as long as we could hold onto Fields... i think that's more than reasonable.

I keep reading this and I don't fully understand...Let's say u are the Knicks GM...Denver comes to you and say I want Gallo and Fields or Chandler and Fields for Melo, You would then say no, Fields is untouchable?

Yes. Thats what he's saying. Fields is an unreplaceable talent. lol. I forgot how fanatical we can be about our players.

Killa I dont understand...I mean I really like Fields too, but this is Melo...

did u not read my response above or do u just wanna insert ur own definitions to someone else's comments? i just got done saying i don't consider Fields an untouchable, but out of the 3 young guys we have, he'd be the last one i'd be willing to include in any trade... i also said i wouldn't give up all 3 of them to get Melo... i guess you would?

Yes I read what you said...I didn't mean to respond to Killa in that conversation, mistake there...I would have to think of trading all three tho...but two of out three for me is a no brainer...Melo has the talent to have the Knicks compete with Boston and Miami..Losing 2 of Fields, Chandler or Gallo won't change that...Winning will quickly make me forget about the draft picks we lost....

2 of the 3 for Melo is an acceptable tradeoff but i don't see how Melo could replace all 3 of their production by himself... that's just too much to give up... all 3 are highly promising young players & Denver isn't exactly in any position to be making outrageous demands considering Melo has the last say on where he will end up... do u really think he'd want his new team that he's gonna be playing on for the next several years to clear the decks of all of their best young talent to get him? i don't... & again, i don't see any way DW does it either... he's made it clear he's not going to gut the roster for any single player, Melo or otherwise.

And I do agree with you, being all three contribute in different ways...That said, all three isn't going to take us to the next level, Melo will...I have no problem trading them for a piece like Melo...U can always add cheap help in some manner...When JR Smith signed his initial contract with Denver for about 1 mil per year...If you have a core like Amare, Melo and Felton, you will see veterans line up to take less money to try for a ring...U saw that with Miami, Boston, Lakers a few years back...

The best case scenario is have Melo sign at the end of the year and keep our players...I'm cool with that...But Melo is too important a piece to leave up to chance like that...Miami isn't going anywhere for the next five years...Amare is in his prime now...We can't wait for our young players to mature...They have talent but not Melo type talent to take us to the next level...Knicks have to seize the moment..

Killa4luv wrote:

TMS wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:

TMS wrote:
actually no, that's not what i'm saying... i never said Fields is unreplaceable... i said i think he's probably harder to replace in our roster than a guy like Gallo or Wilson because he brings different types of intangibles that u can't quantify w/simple stats, so because of that i'd rather hold onto him if we had a choice... IMO i think we can reasonably be able to hold onto him & still put together a more than reasonable package of talent to get Melo to NY... if DEN comes to me & says they want Gallo & Fields or Chandler & Fields for Melo or else nothing, i probably do it, but only as a last resort... i've said all along if we can hold onto at least 1 out of those 3 guys & still get Melo, it's a deal i would do... i wouldn't give away all 3 of those guys, & neither do i think DW would do that either.

Ok TMS i take it back, u are not a raving madman. ur just a regular madman. lol

ur giving up all 3 of those guys for Melo then i take it... do u think DW is gonna do that?

No Im just teasing u. I agree with giving up 2 of 3 plus curry plus pick plus cash. If need be, AR too. but not all 3 of LF, WC + Gallo. THats too much.

HOwever, honestly, if we had to, I'd do it. We can sign trade for and draft role players, you can't really get top tier talent and when you have the chance you have to do it.

CRACK

Fields is a KEEEPER as is Gallo.

Gallo for Melo still people? Really?..... So that when we play Denver Gallo can shut Melo
down when he needs to and we lose instead of win?

Melo gonna spread floor for Amare better?...... Is he gonna play better D then Gallo?

Is he making less money then Gallo?..... Has more upside?..... Melo is a better player hands
down.... No Fukcing doubt!!

But still offers US AS A TEAM LESS THEN GALLO DOES.........

Gallo still Hits more 3's then anyone you can get in a trade.....

No ONE WINS without a 3 point threat thats a fact!!....... Gallo is top 12 in NBA
in made 3's..... Last year finished 2ND!!! ..... In whole NBA as a 4th option mind you!!

Gallo stays!! Fields Stays!!!

TMS wrote:u wouldn't trade Gallo for CA & you're calling other people dumb... good stuff.

You cant trade Gallo and picks for Melo

NOT POSSIBLE

You have to trade Gallo and 14 million more in salary plus picks for Melo

So again I repeat DUMB

Not a shocker you were first to reply btw

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:u wouldn't trade Gallo for CA & you're calling other people dumb... good stuff.

You cant trade Gallo and picks for Melo

NOT POSSIBLE

You have to trade Gallo and 14 million more in salary plus picks for Melo

So again I repeat DUMB

Not a shocker you were first to reply btw

you contribute much to these forums.