newyorknewyork wrote:Felton is already the 2nd banana, we need more size really. While adding Melo would be great, it will depend on the price. Even with Melo we need another good big or 2 around Amare and Turiaf.

knickstorrents wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

VDesai wrote:It boils down to this. Did the Knicks lose last night because they didn't have a 2nd go to option to get them a basket when they needed or because we couldn't get stops when we needed?

I know the Knicks missed 2 shots down the stretch, but Amare's shot was a good look that went in and out and Felton got hammered without a whistle. Was another offensive player really going to get us a much better result than the opportunities we had? Or would we have been better off denying KG the ball or keeping him off the offensive glass down the stretch. My ultimate point was there was a much more glaring need for the latter. We seem to operating just fine without the established 2nd banana right now. We have a whole bunch of guys that are acting like that "2nd banana" already on the roster- they just haven't been established as that kind of player by leaguewide perception as of yet.

The Knicks didn't lose last night because they lacked a second star.

But come playoff time, they will.

Exactly right. We could be a 50-win team whether we have Melo or not, but we are a much better playoff team if he is on the roster.

Too many people stress over the regular season instead of emphasizing what it takes to succeed in the poststeason. The defense automatically tightens up, shots are harder to get off, the play beomes a lot more physical.

These are ALL things that Carmelo Anthony would assist the Knicks with. He brings it.

Carmelo only helps if you can stay in the game until the last 5 minutes.

Are you serious dude? We're not talking about Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, and Derek Fisher here. Those are all guys who won't produce too much, but can nail that big 4th quarter shot when the game is on the line.

That was a terrible point.

loweyecue wrote:

OldFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If they can get him by only dealing one of the starters

I think very few people would disagree with this - as long as the starter was not Amare. My fear with acquiring Melo is we give up 3 starters. Then this team has lots of wholes and no assets or cap space to fill them. Some people believe Felton, Amare and Melo with anyone around them is enough. But we'd still have no defense and no depth.

Both Mark Jackson and Van Gundy thought if you have to give up three starters you still do it. I'm sure they know more about the game then I do but in this case I disagree.

I take exception with that. Felton has been playing solid defense and Amar'e isn't no slouch either.

The next argument when all is traded is STAT and Felton playing over 40 minutes :)

loweyecue wrote:

rp wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

OldFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:If they can get him by only dealing one of the starters

I think very few people would disagree with this - as long as the starter was not Amare. My fear with acquiring Melo is we give up 3 starters. Then this team has lots of wholes and no assets or cap space to fill them. Some people believe Felton, Amare and Melo with anyone around them is enough. But we'd still have no defense and no depth.

Both Mark Jackson and Van Gundy thought if you have to give up three starters you still do it. I'm sure they know more about the game then I do but in this case I disagree.

I take exception with that. Felton has been playing solid defense and Amar'e isn't no slouch either.

The next argument when all is traded is STAT and Felton playing over 40 minutes :)

Easy, I don't for a second believe Donnie will trade 3 starters to get Melo. And its a bad argument cause they are already playing 40 minutes. :)

My point is people already are complaining on board about it.

loweyecue wrote:I also believe what someone else already posted, Felton can become the second scorer here. Gallo/Chandler makes it a very well rounded attack. The need was for a closer that Melo is, and Felton has shown some flashes (to my surprise) that he can finish things off. And he doesn't back down from no one. Do I still want Melo, of course I do, but his value add has gone down a little in my eyes.

No arguments there, if we can get 2 for 1 I am all for it but I just doubt it.