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12/7/2010  12:22 PM
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cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

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12/7/2010  12:26 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

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12/7/2010  12:31 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

knicks are doing great but walsh is still looking for a backup point guard, yes. walsh is keeping his eyes open, i would like mda to do the same. i may be too dumb to answer the question again correctly. i just know what i know. i know this game is about confidence and giving ar spot minutes, only helps ny, it doesnt hurt.

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12/7/2010  12:33 PM
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Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

Why does wearing a bra on his head help him focus? I mean not that there's anything wrong with it.

don't knock it unless you've tried it.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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12/7/2010  12:38 PM
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

i am not a good debater. i just say what i know, if it comes across as nada, ok.

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12/7/2010  12:39 PM
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

knicks are doing great but walsh is still looking for a backup point guard, yes. walsh is keeping his eyes open, i would like mda to do the same. i may be too dumb to answer the question again correctly. i just know what i know. i know this game is about confidence and giving ar spot minutes, only helps ny, it doesnt hurt.

He has gotten spot minutes. He's played in half of our games and failed miserably. I know taht you can gain confidence in practice by having success against AR and Shawne and Mozgov as well.

You keep saying he has blinders, yet he has started Mozgov, Turiaf and Amare at center and gone with what works. He's given a chance to Mason and was not blind enough to give Shawne a chance when he was ready. If AR gets himself ready he will be in there as well. Until then, with all the good feeling, great play and gelling, you can't risk that by thrusting some guy in that isn't producing or giving the same all out effort as the rest of the team.

Be patient my friend. I know as a fan you want to see the guy play. But coaches aren't fans and will play guys that can produce. When he's ready(which I think will be before seasons end, but it doesn't matter if it isn't) he will play. In the meantime this isn't some sissy middle school league where everyone gets a chance so we can raise their confidence level. This is the NBA where the strongest thrive and the weakest go to the D-league/Europe to be replaced with someone better. Men play here. Not sissies

I just hope that people will like me
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12/7/2010  12:39 PM
TMS wrote:
Panos wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

Why does wearing a bra on his head help him focus? I mean not that there's anything wrong with it.

don't knock it unless you've tried it.

one of my fav movies nice find

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12/7/2010  12:40 PM
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

i am not a good debater. i just say what i know, if it comes across as nada, ok.

yeah but your "knowing" part isn't based off of anything you have seen, especially in NY. so I am doubting the "knowing" part

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12/7/2010  12:40 PM
martin wrote:i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

Anthony Randolph has a career per 36min average of almost 11 rebounds a game which would be head and shoulders above what anyone else on this team provides. That alone is reason enough to play him.

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12/7/2010  12:42 PM
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

i am not a good debater. i just say what i know, if it comes across as nada, ok.

You don't have to debate, just answer the question:

What has he earned?
Also, how does shooting 27% from the field and ticking off your teammates, messing with chemistry and upsetting the coach with bone head plays raise your confidence.

You know where my basketball confidence went up. NOt in games. I was terrified in games. I missed every shot I took because I was thinking too much and was afraid to miss. My confidence went up when I spent an offsseason shooting 700 million shots a day. After a while I stopped missing and couldn't wait to start doing it in games. Soon enough........AR can build success doing the same thing.

I just hope that people will like me
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12/7/2010  12:44 PM
FistOfOakley wrote:
martin wrote:i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

Anthony Randolph has a career per 36min average of almost 11 rebounds a game which would be head and shoulders above what anyone else on this team provides. That alone is reason enough to play him.

Roger Mason has a career 3 point shooting percentage of 38%, is taht reason enough to play him?

I just hope that people will like me
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12/7/2010  12:48 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:
martin wrote:i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

Anthony Randolph has a career per 36min average of almost 11 rebounds a game which would be head and shoulders above what anyone else on this team provides. That alone is reason enough to play him.

Roger Mason has a career 3 point shooting percentage of 38%, is taht reason enough to play him?


if we didn't have shawne williams, bill walker, toney douglas, danilo and felton not to mention azubuike who should shoot around 38% then yes.

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12/7/2010  12:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/7/2010  12:50 PM
FistOfOakley wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:
martin wrote:i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

Anthony Randolph has a career per 36min average of almost 11 rebounds a game which would be head and shoulders above what anyone else on this team provides. That alone is reason enough to play him.

Roger Mason has a career 3 point shooting percentage of 38%, is taht reason enough to play him?


if we didn't have shawne williams, bill walker, toney douglas, danilo and felton not to mention azubuike who should shoot around 38% then yes.

Is rebounding a problem for us? Is it such a problem that we need to inject a guy that is shooting 27% and can't guard anyone in the post?

I just hope that people will like me
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12/7/2010  12:53 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

knicks are doing great but walsh is still looking for a backup point guard, yes. walsh is keeping his eyes open, i would like mda to do the same. i may be too dumb to answer the question again correctly. i just know what i know. i know this game is about confidence and giving ar spot minutes, only helps ny, it doesnt hurt.

He has gotten spot minutes. He's played in half of our games and failed miserably. I know taht you can gain confidence in practice by having success against AR and Shawne and Mozgov as well.

You keep saying he has blinders, yet he has started Mozgov, Turiaf and Amare at center and gone with what works. He's given a chance to Mason and was not blind enough to give Shawne a chance when he was ready. If AR gets himself ready he will be in there as well. Until then, with all the good feeling, great play and gelling, you can't risk that by thrusting some guy in that isn't producing or giving the same all out effort as the rest of the team.

Be patient my friend. I know as a fan you want to see the guy play. But coaches aren't fans and will play guys that can produce. When he's ready(which I think will be before seasons end, but it doesn't matter if it isn't) he will play. In the meantime this isn't some sissy middle school league where everyone gets a chance so we can raise their confidence level. This is the NBA where the strongest thrive and the weakest go to the D-league/Europe to be replaced with someone better. Men play here. Not sissies

the knicks as a whole failed miserably out the gate. even a poster on this board started a "im out" thread because of it. walsh stuck by mda and didnt press the knicks execs favorite emergency button herb williams. lol.

not going to judge ar fail on those games out the gate. i didnt judge mda a fail. gelling takes time confidence takes time. it didnt hurt walsh to give mda that time, it wont hurt mda to give ar that time.

ok thats enough of beating this horse. we all know where we all stand. im right.

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12/7/2010  12:54 PM
martin wrote:
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
cheers wrote:@bip-- mda and toney have same hitch, horse blinders. that doesnt mean i want toney losing minutes or mda losing hair. just take 'em off from time to time and see what is around you.

I have no idea waht this means

means its mda's job to see more than what he is seeing. same with toney, doing great, but its your job to see chandler at the wing. its mda's job to see he needs to give ar spot minutes.

We are 10-1 in our last 11 games, why is it anyone's responsibility to do anythign different then what we are doing?

It's actually AR's responsibility to up his game so he can beat someone out for a position like Williams did.

I ask the question again, what has AR done to deserve anything? What has he achieved?

i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

i am not a good debater. i just say what i know, if it comes across as nada, ok.

yeah but your "knowing" part isn't based off of anything you have seen, especially in NY. so I am doubting the "knowing" part

my knowing part can be based on everything i see without limit to geography.

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12/7/2010  12:57 PM
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FistOfOakley wrote:
martin wrote:i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

Anthony Randolph has a career per 36min average of almost 11 rebounds a game which would be head and shoulders above what anyone else on this team provides. That alone is reason enough to play him.

Roger Mason has a career 3 point shooting percentage of 38%, is taht reason enough to play him?

Mozgov's getting minutes & he still looks as lost as ever... at some point u have to question the reasoning behind some of these rotation decisions... they're all clearly not based on performance on the basketball court... IMHO it is in the best interest of our franchise to be playing AR over Mozgov at this point, but it's not my team & i'm not the coach.

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12/7/2010  1:08 PM
TMS wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
FistOfOakley wrote:
martin wrote:i already tried to ask that question and got nada back

Anthony Randolph has a career per 36min average of almost 11 rebounds a game which would be head and shoulders above what anyone else on this team provides. That alone is reason enough to play him.

Roger Mason has a career 3 point shooting percentage of 38%, is taht reason enough to play him?

Mozgov's getting minutes & he still looks as lost as ever... at some point u have to question the reasoning behind some of these rotation decisions... they're all clearly not based on performance on the basketball court... IMHO it is in the best interest of our franchise to be playing AR over Mozgov at this point, but it's not my team & i'm not the coach.

See I disagree, and obviously D'Antoni does too. Neither of us is wrong or right, but.....That's why coaching is not an easy thing. Right and wrong is not always cut and dry

I personally would not play AR. I think he's better then Mozgov right now, but his decision making his horrendous. It messes with chemistry. You don't knwo what shot is going up and when, it wasn't in the flow of the offense and he added nothing in terms of energy. He is a ball stopper in an offense designed for ball movement. Mozgov is brutal. He's dropping balls, he doesn't finish, he fouls everyone but if you really watch.......He's a ball mover, when guards penetrate they see Mozgov, and he provides at least some sort of resistance against post players(even if a lot that is fouls) instead of being backed underneath the basket like AR. I also think a light bulb is going to go on in his head and he will be fine. I persoanlly think AR's problem is a confidence problem, a knowledge of teh game problem and a lack of understanding. I think Mozgov's biggest problem is an adjustment to the US game. One of those is easier to fix then the other. Either way I don't think it would kill us to go AR over Mozgov I just personally would play Mozgov if I was coach.

Now if you were coach you would play AR. You see the obvious unlimited potential, an ability to impact the game with his athletic ability. An ability to finish at the rim that as of right now is above what Mozgov can dream of producing. YOu probably see more reasons to play him as well.

Neither of us is right. There is no conspiracy theory in picking one over another. D'antoni has shown he will play guys that produce, but ball movement and smart decisions is key in his offense, and he seems to go for guys that are good at it. Mozgov is, AR is not. I have no doubt that when AR is productive in practice he will be in the line-up just like Shawne is.

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12/7/2010  1:09 PM
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Is rebounding a problem for us? Is it such a problem that we need to inject a guy that is shooting 27% and can't guard anyone in the post?


i was trying to find the exact ranking but I thought we were ranked 18th last time i checked. in any event i find it hard to believe that you can't find ANY playing time for your best rebounder. if d'antoni wants to make a point fine, i can buy that. but i can't agree with the fact that we're a better team without him playing right now when mozgov is looking at rebounds go past him instead of actually grabbing them.

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12/7/2010  1:16 PM
FistOfOakley wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
Is rebounding a problem for us? Is it such a problem that we need to inject a guy that is shooting 27% and can't guard anyone in the post?


i was trying to find the exact ranking but I thought we were ranked 18th last time i checked. in any event i find it hard to believe that you can't find ANY playing time for your best rebounder. if d'antoni wants to make a point fine, i can buy that. but i can't agree with the fact that we're a better team without him playing right now when mozgov is looking at rebounds go past him instead of actually grabbing them.

rebounding is 1 out of like 20 aspects of the game though. And AR was messing up a lot more of them than his play would dictate getting minutes.

and the team is winning. How can you argue against that?

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12/7/2010  1:16 PM
we're actually 22nd in rebound rate.
Anthony Randolph...

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