GustavBahler wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
Their is a severe lack of centers in the league. I dont see Mozgov becoming a superstar but he is no worse than the majority of NBA centers.

Mosgov's biggest issue is his knack for picking up foolish fouls. I still know a few teams that could use him right now.

I agree, he held his own against Team USA. It's going to take time for him to adjust to new teammates, new coach, new language, new country. He has shown enough on the defensive end to keep him.

keeping him i have no problem with, but he shouldn't be seeing minutes over AR IMO... AR has at least shown that he can perform at the NBA level in his career, & he's a couple years younger than Timo with a considerably higher percieved upside potential to get better... i don't see the reasoning in not playing the kid, especially after we traded away an Allstar PF to get our hands on him... this is the same exact nonsensical reasoning i found last year when a #8 lottery selected rook couldn't get playing time over a broken down journeyman vet... MDA playing his favorites again, rhyme or reason be damned.

TMS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
Their is a severe lack of centers in the league. I dont see Mozgov becoming a superstar but he is no worse than the majority of NBA centers.

Mosgov's biggest issue is his knack for picking up foolish fouls. I still know a few teams that could use him right now.

I agree, he held his own against Team USA. It's going to take time for him to adjust to new teammates, new coach, new language, new country. He has shown enough on the defensive end to keep him.

keeping him i have no problem with, but he shouldn't be seeing minutes over AR IMO... AR has at least shown that he can perform at the NBA level in his career, & he's a couple years younger than Timo with a considerably higher percieved upside potential to get better... i don't see the reasoning in not playing the kid, especially after we traded away an Allstar PF to get our hands on him... this is the same exact nonsensical reasoning i found last year when a #8 lottery selected rook couldn't get playing time over a broken down journeyman vet... MDA playing his favorites again, rhyme or reason be damned.

I agree with you on Jordan Hill last year. I thought he should have played instead of Fishlips, but AR is different and Timo is different. AR just looks lost in the offense and his defense is not very good. Against Detroit, AR could not contain TMac. The 2 backdoor buckets by Stuckey was not just Felton missing the cut but AR not protecting passing lanes. AR is also a ball stopper right now.

Timo on the other hand has been good as the sentry on top of the key for our offense to run through. He is just a big man that takes a lot of space for Felton to use to drive to the lane. Amare has done the same in using Timo. In the defensive side, Timo has been very good in protecting the lane. He has altered numerous shots and has blocked a few of his own in limited time. Timo's only problem right now is his propensity to commit stupid fouls.

People also question his rebounding. I say watch him closely. He boxes out really well. He does not get the rebound but watch his teammates gather the board due to Timo blocking out the opposing teams center.

TMS wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
Their is a severe lack of centers in the league. I dont see Mozgov becoming a superstar but he is no worse than the majority of NBA centers.

Mosgov's biggest issue is his knack for picking up foolish fouls. I still know a few teams that could use him right now.

I agree, he held his own against Team USA. It's going to take time for him to adjust to new teammates, new coach, new language, new country. He has shown enough on the defensive end to keep him.

keeping him i have no problem with, but he shouldn't be seeing minutes over AR IMO... AR has at least shown that he can perform at the NBA level in his career, & he's a couple years younger than Timo with a considerably higher percieved upside potential to get better... i don't see the reasoning in not playing the kid, especially after we traded away an Allstar PF to get our hands on him... this is the same exact nonsensical reasoning i found last year when a #8 lottery selected rook couldn't get playing time over a broken down journeyman vet... MDA playing his favorites again, rhyme or reason be damned.

I cant really argue with that assessment. We all know D'Antoni plays favorites though.

babyKnicks wrote:I watched that Detroit game too and don't recall AR moving the ball at all. When he firmly he shotnit and missed it. I don't even known if he recorded a rebound. Ge looked awkward the entire time he was out there and the team was outbid synch.

Are we watching the same games?

Timofey alters shots, gets boards and runs the floor and let's the game come to him. AR looks like he's forcing the issue and thinks he is a guard.

Watch the games. Check the stats.

i have been watching the games... it's hard for a guy to come in cold off the bench & do something in a game when he's not getting regular burn, especially for young guys... Moz has been given a regular run of minutes all season & he still doesn't look comfortable... i would prefer to see AR getting those minutes right now, because we have already seen he can put up good numbers at the NBA level... i dunno what's going on in practice, maybe he's got a pisspoor attitude & MDA doesn't wanna reward him w/playing time, who knows... all i know is what i see & what i see is not much out of Mozgov.

I'd have a preference for that guy to be AR, but Mozgov is playing decently and seems to be improving his timing and speed for the NBA.

GustavBahler wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:I watched that Detroit game too and don't recall AR moving the ball at all. When he firmly he shotnit and missed it. I don't even known if he recorded a rebound. Ge looked awkward the entire time he was out there and the team was outbid synch.

Are we watching the same games?

Timofey alters shots, gets boards and runs the floor and let's the game come to him. AR looks like he's forcing the issue and thinks he is a guard.

Watch the games. Check the stats.

Hard to give an assessment with only 2 minutes of playing time for AR but here goes... He was not as brain dead on offense and gave up the rock twice that lead to easy baskets. Maybe something is clicking finally? But it was only 2 minutes...

Part of the problem. D'Antoni is winning games so I can't blame him for not giving AR minutes right now. If someone gets hurt or goes through a slump AR will probably get a better opportunity.

dividends will be paid months from now if makes AR earn his way on... if he can replicate those 2 minutes throughout 82 games, the Knicks will have something. He's basically still a college kid so why rush

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:I watched that Detroit game too and don't recall AR moving the ball at all. When he firmly he shotnit and missed it. I don't even known if he recorded a rebound. Ge looked awkward the entire time he was out there and the team was outbid synch.

Are we watching the same games?

Timofey alters shots, gets boards and runs the floor and let's the game come to him. AR looks like he's forcing the issue and thinks he is a guard.

Watch the games. Check the stats.

Hard to give an assessment with only 2 minutes of playing time for AR but here goes... He was not as brain dead on offense and gave up the rock twice that lead to easy baskets. Maybe something is clicking finally? But it was only 2 minutes...

Part of the problem. D'Antoni is winning games so I can't blame him for not giving AR minutes right now. If someone gets hurt or goes through a slump AR will probably get a better opportunity.

dividends will be paid months from now if makes AR earn his way on... if he can replicate those 2 minutes throughout 82 games, the Knicks will have something. He's basically still a college kid so why rush

My sentiments exactly. Earning something has never been a bad thing.