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The Premature, But Still Official, Landry Fields Appreciation Thread
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11/22/2010  10:37 AM
tj23 wrote:His defense is still inconsistent as is his shot. But he has great potential, has a high IQ, great athlete(I dont get how he isn't considered a very good athlete, it could be his biggest strength)plus he's still young. He's already contributing. He appears to have at least a decent mid range jumper, but dantoni isnt a fan of the mid range shot, which is stupid. Although he lets Amare jack up contested off balace mid range shots and gallo is a terrible mid range shooter yet he still fires them up at times. Back to Fields, I love his game, I'm just not annointing him yet. He has some growing to do. But his non stop energy, versatility, shot selection, and athleticism is very nice to have.

man, your post was so good until you inserted that.

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11/22/2010  10:38 AM
I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams. He's a great glue guy that every team needs to succeed. Let's not go overboard on him though.
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11/22/2010  11:47 AM
Man Overboard?

"Let's not go overboard on him though."

crzymdups - (tongue planted firmly in cheek) The practice of merely suggesting some type of group-think or collective opinion is not only morally reprehensible but it is also aesthetically boring.

Going deliberately overboard on The Mayor in 2007 was risky and entertaining.

Landry Fields sucks.

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11/22/2010  12:00 PM
Hey, I love Landry. He's the type of player this team has sorely missed for years.
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11/22/2010  12:10 PM
Fields is a good heady player with a great work ethic. Great job of scouting by the Knicks. He was a 6'7 college player playing PF on a lousy Stanford team but putting up good numbers. Easy to see how and why he flew under the radar.

That being said he's a perfect example of how guys look better playing with talent. Felton's play has been very good. Gallo has stepped it up and you have a lot of size and shot blocking up front. When a good heady player like Fields is surrounded by talent and doesnt have to do to much they look great. Marquis Daniels was a good comparison. Maybe even Doug Christie.

Bottom line is a we got a very good rotation player in the mid 2nd round. Brilliant job

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11/22/2010  12:13 PM
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

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11/22/2010  12:17 PM
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

whoa. someone's on his research today.

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11/22/2010  12:20 PM
a healthy woman roof is something for everyone to celebrate. Stop hating
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11/22/2010  12:20 PM
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

Okay, glad we're not going overboard.

Slight differences between Drexler and Fields. One was one of the best college players of his generation and played in two final fours and one played power forward for an underachieving sub .500 team.

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11/22/2010  12:22 PM
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

Okay, glad we're not going overboard.

Slight differences between Drexler and Fields. One was one of the best college players of his generation and played in two final fours and one played power forward for an underachieving sub .500 team.

but is that just luck of your teammates or something else?

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11/22/2010  12:28 PM
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

Okay, glad we're not going overboard.

Slight differences between Drexler and Fields. One was one of the best college players of his generation and played in two final fours and one played power forward for an underachieving sub .500 team.

but is that just luck of your teammates or something else?

I think part of it has to do with the fact that Clyde Drexler was a hall of fame, gravity-defying superstar who helped to redefine the shooting guard position in the NBA.

Nothing against Landry Fields, but it's an insult to compare him to Clyde Drexler at this point in Landry's career.

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11/22/2010  12:32 PM
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

Okay, glad we're not going overboard.

Slight differences between Drexler and Fields. One was one of the best college players of his generation and played in two final fours and one played power forward for an underachieving sub .500 team.

but is that just luck of your teammates or something else?

I think part of it has to do with the fact that Clyde Drexler was a hall of fame, gravity-defying superstar who helped to redefine the shooting guard position in the NBA.

Nothing against Landry Fields, but it's an insult to compare him to Clyde Drexler at this point in Landry's career.

Not even close to Clyde Drexler. Fields is more like a Doug Chirstie type of player. Constant motion, keep balls alive with tip outs, deflections on D, and just an all around high IQ player.

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11/22/2010  1:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/22/2010  1:17 PM
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

Okay, glad we're not going overboard.

Slight differences between Drexler and Fields. One was one of the best college players of his generation and played in two final fours and one played power forward for an underachieving sub .500 team.

but is that just luck of your teammates or something else?

I think part of it has to do with the fact that Clyde Drexler was a hall of fame, gravity-defying superstar who helped to redefine the shooting guard position in the NBA.

Nothing against Landry Fields, but it's an insult to compare him to Clyde Drexler at this point in Landry's career.


An insult you say?

Let's rewind the video tape (just in case you missed it he first time)

Tale of The Tape

Height/ Weight
Drexler 6'7, 210... Fields 6'7, 210 pounds, i-dentical

Final Year In College
Glide at U of H - Southwest Conference Player of the Year (1983) 16 points, 3.2 assists and 10 rebounds on 35 per cent shooting, 35.

Fields at Stanford - All-Pac-10 First Team selection as a senior with 22 points, 9 rebounds and .49 per cent shooting... Led Pac-10 in scoring and rebounding... his 704 points in senior year marked third-highest single-season total in school history.

College Totals
Drexler - 14.4 points, 3.3 assists and 9.9 rebounds in three seasons at Houston
Fields - 11 points, 2 assists and 5 rebounds in four seasons at Stanford

Vertical Jump
Drexler - 44 inches, ridiculous
Fields - 39 inches, highly impressive

NBA Rookie Season
Drexler (82 games) 17 minutes avg 7.7 points, 3 rebounds .45 from the field .25 from three point range
Fields (14 games) 28 minutes avg 10.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, team leading .55 from the field .31 from three

Playing style

"Drexler was famed for his speed and finesse on the court, and his easy-going and quiet demeanor off the court. At Houston, Drexler became known for his exceptional abilities as a finisher, but generally was not considered a great shooter."

Fields is already a better shooter than Drexler. Not to be confused with his easy-going and quiet demeanor off the court.

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11/22/2010  1:10 PM
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

Okay, glad we're not going overboard.

Slight differences between Drexler and Fields. One was one of the best college players of his generation and played in two final fours and one played power forward for an underachieving sub .500 team.


Add the 1983 avatars of Akeem Olajuwon and Larry "Mr Mean" Michaeux to the 2009 Stanford roster and get back to me.

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11/22/2010  1:31 PM
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I was thinking the other day that Fields reminds me of Marquis Daniels when Daniels was a rookie on those great Mavs teams

Dude, get with the program. Marquis Daniels does not have a fraction of Fields personality, education or class.

Daniels is noted for having several tattoos inscribed on different parts of his body. The tattoos range from a detailed map of Florida that covers his entire back, a caricature of a man blowing his head off with a shotgun on his lower right arm, and Chinese characters on his other arm which were intended to represent his initials, but translate to English as "healthy woman roof". Also, he has an entire bible verse on his chest.

Marquis Daniels?

Hardly.

Think Clyde Drexler

Okay, glad we're not going overboard.

Slight differences between Drexler and Fields. One was one of the best college players of his generation and played in two final fours and one played power forward for an underachieving sub .500 team.

but is that just luck of your teammates or something else?

I think part of it has to do with the fact that Clyde Drexler was a hall of fame, gravity-defying superstar who helped to redefine the shooting guard position in the NBA.

Nothing against Landry Fields, but it's an insult to compare him to Clyde Drexler at this point in Landry's career.


An insult you say?

Let's rewind the video tape (just in case you missed it he first time)

Tale of The Tape

Height/ Weight
Drexler 6'7, 210... Fields 6'7, 210 pounds, i-dentical

Final Year In College
Glide at U of H - Southwest Conference Player of the Year (1983) 16 points, 3.2 assists and 10 rebounds on 35 per cent shooting, 35.

Fields at Stanford - All-Pac-10 First Team selection as a senior with 22 points, 9 rebounds and .49 per cent shooting... Led Pac-10 in scoring and rebounding... his 704 points in senior year marked third-highest single-season total in school history.

College Totals
Drexler - 14.4 points, 3.3 assists and 9.9 rebounds in three seasons at Houston
Fields - 11 points, 2 assists and 5 rebounds in four seasons at Stanford

Vertical Jump
Drexler - 44 inches, ridiculous
Fields - 39 inches, highly impressive

NBA Rookie Season
Drexler (82 games) 17 minutes avg 7.7 points, 3 rebounds .45 from the field .25 from three point range
Fields (14 games) 28 minutes avg 10.4 points, 6.4 rebounds, team leading .55 from the field .31 from three

Playing style

"Drexler was famed for his speed and finesse on the court, and his easy-going and quiet demeanor off the court. At Houston, Drexler became known for his exceptional abilities as a finisher, but generally was not considered a great shooter."

Fields is already a better shooter than Drexler. Not to be confused with his easy-going and quiet demeanor off the court.

Earl, I agree with alot of what you say, but Clyde Drexler, man??? Come on. Clyde Drexler was the "one man fast break," meaning he would get the rebound, beat everyone down the court, and dunk all by himself and he would do this consistently throughout the game. Clyde Drexler is probably one of the top-10 SGs of all-time. Fields is not Clyde Drexler and is not going to be Clyde Drexler, as his athleticism, while better than advertised, is not on a Clyde Drexler level. But I do agree that Fields can be a very good player and possible turn into a borderline All-star if he keeps improving.

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11/22/2010  1:50 PM
TheGame - of course Clyde Drexler is pushing the envelope to the edge, but why not?

Besides, too many player comparisons avoid crossing cultural, chronological and color barriers. Too many times they are based on the superficial, rather than the personality traits that make a player unique. The Answer Man links Drexler and Fields for one shared personality trait that separates good players from great players. Work ethic.

For a moment, forget the stats and outward appearances. The Glide had several career alterations where he adapted to the game as he matured and aged. After his prodigious hops dissolved, he developed his outside game. The sense is that Fields will do the same as he evolves. That type of career adjustment is what separates winners with productive long-term careers.

If you gonna set the comparison bar, might as well set it high, right?

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11/22/2010  2:31 PM
Fields is a product of playing with good players. If you made a featured player his limitations should immediatly surface. He's the perfect 4th or 5th man because he's got good skills and vision and is good enough to make you pay for ignoring him. Of course that only works if he's on the floor with players that are good enough to get him ignored.
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11/22/2010  3:00 PM
misterearl wrote:TheGame - of course Clyde Drexler is pushing the envelope to the edge, but why not?

Besides, too many player comparisons avoid crossing cultural, chronological and color barriers. Too many times they are based on the superficial, rather than the personality traits that make a player unique. The Answer Man links Drexler and Fields for one shared personality trait that separates good players from great players. Work ethic.

For a moment, forget the stats and outward appearances. The Glide had several career alterations where he adapted to the game as he matured and aged. After his prodigious hops dissolved, he developed his outside game. The sense is that Fields will do the same as he evolves. That type of career adjustment is what separates winners with productive long-term careers.

If you gonna set the comparison bar, might as well set it high, right?

I will agree that both Drexler and Fields have a low-key personality and were/are hard-workers. Fields, like Drexler, is an above-average rebounder for a SG (even though I think Fields is more of a SF than SG). But Clyde was a Jordan/Kobe-type athlete. Fields is not on that level. If Fields can one day become a 1 or 2-time Allstar, I would think he would have maxed out his potential, but that is still very good for a second round pick that some people thought would not even get drafted. As much as we beat the Knicks scouts down for missing on Jennings and Lawson, you have to give them credit for finding Fields.

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11/22/2010  8:00 PM
martin wrote:
tj23 wrote:His defense is still inconsistent as is his shot. But he has great potential, has a high IQ, great athlete(I dont get how he isn't considered a very good athlete, it could be his biggest strength)plus he's still young. He's already contributing. He appears to have at least a decent mid range jumper, but dantoni isnt a fan of the mid range shot, which is stupid. Although he lets Amare jack up contested off balace mid range shots and gallo is a terrible mid range shooter yet he still fires them up at times. Back to Fields, I love his game, I'm just not annointing him yet. He has some growing to do. But his non stop energy, versatility, shot selection, and athleticism is very nice to have.

man, your post was so good until you inserted that.


What do you disagree on? That he doesn't have a decent mid range shot, or that dantoni isn't a fan of it in general? Maybe he hasn't shot enough to really gauge it so I could be off but as far as Mike's philosophy he has stated both this year and last, in fact, i think on his last show that the mid range shot is only 37-38% made on average around the league and it isn't high percentage.
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11/23/2010  10:17 AM
fishmike wrote:Fields is a product of playing with good players. If you made a featured player his limitations should immediatly surface. He's the perfect 4th or 5th man because he's got good skills and vision and is good enough to make you pay for ignoring him. Of course that only works if he's on the floor with players that are good enough to get him ignored.

Good Summary, and I agree. I do however think that he has a higher ceiling then some people give him credit for. I don't think he will ever be an all-star but I also don't envision him as a career dirty work guy. I think he will eventually develop a pretty solid offensive game to go along with all the hustle and smart play.

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