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rvwink
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10/25/2010  6:19 PM
"A lot of this comes down to trusting that Mike knows what he's seeing in practice and in games"

I think one guy who is lobbying for Landry to start, is Amare. Saw a recent preseason game where Landry hit Amare with an inspired pass for a score. Amare then returned the favor getting the ball to Fields down low for a dunk. They seemed to have very good chemistry with one another. I am confident Amare would like another guy capable of feeding him scoring opportunities. It probably doesn't take much more than Amare to persuade Mike to make it happen imo. But Field's rebounding ability is probably another major advantage that Mike would be interested in. Also he certainly seems quick enough to be able cover most of the shooting guards in the league.

At on the limb, I bet that Fields ends up starting the first game.

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10/25/2010  7:07 PM
rvwink - you are indeed Jedi. Thank you for your concise observations of communication between Amar'e and Fields.

That is the type of analysis that one RARELY receives from the overpaid dudes seated on media row.

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10/25/2010  8:26 PM
if someone would have told me 6 months ago that a 2nd round pick rookie was going to be our starting SG I would have lost my ****.

just sayin...

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10/25/2010  8:35 PM
TymeLessKnicks wrote:if someone would have told me 6 months ago that a 2nd round pick rookie was going to be our starting SG I would have lost my ****.

just sayin...

Well that would be two that didn't go in the first round of the draft starting If he and Moz do...question is does he take enough away from Moz to let Wall win ROY

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10/25/2010  9:15 PM
misterearl wrote:rvwink - you are indeed Jedi. Thank you for your concise observations of communication between Amar'e and Fields.

That is the type of analysis that one RARELY receives from the overpaid dudes seated on media row.

I know the plays he's talking about and i don't qualify two good plays as having great chemistry.
For example, Felton and Amare look like the P/R chemistry was coming together, then in the same game in the second half, it looks as if they got a ways to go.

I really have nothing bad to say about fields, and yes he can be a starter, but why weaking your bench

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10/25/2010  9:23 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
misterearl wrote:rvwink - you are indeed Jedi. Thank you for your concise observations of communication between Amar'e and Fields.

That is the type of analysis that one RARELY receives from the overpaid dudes seated on media row.

I know the plays he's talking about and i don't qualify two good plays as having great chemistry.
For example, Felton and Amare look like the P/R chemistry was coming together, then in the same game in the second half, it looks as if they got a ways to go.

I really have nothing bad to say about fields, and yes he can be a starter, but why weaking your bench

switching out Fields for Chandler on the bench is weakening it?

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10/25/2010  9:40 PM
martin wrote:switching out Fields for Chandler on the bench is weakening it?

I hope I'm wrong but I'll have to agree... Fields seems like the stronger player to me at this point, even though it is still very early. Chandler SHOULD be a better rebounder than Fields but isn't. Chandler SHOULD be a better shooter than Fields but isn't. I hope Chandler can step up his game.

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10/25/2010  9:48 PM
knickstorrents wrote:
martin wrote:switching out Fields for Chandler on the bench is weakening it?

I hope I'm wrong but I'll have to agree... Fields seems like the stronger player to me at this point, even though it is still very early. Chandler SHOULD be a better rebounder than Fields but isn't. Chandler SHOULD be a better shooter than Fields but isn't. I hope Chandler can step up his game.

comparing the 2 players right now is a tad tough. I do think - with the paltry amount of preseason games we have had to watch - that Fields has a better feel and sense for the game, ie better decision maker.

But Chandler scored 15.3 PPG and 5.4 RPG last year while shooting 48% last year, I think Fields would be lucky to sniff those numbers in similar minutes but who knows.

And yet I would say that Fields may fit better with Felton and Amare and Chandler would be better and perhaps even dominant against a second unit.

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10/25/2010  9:50 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
misterearl wrote:rvwink - you are indeed Jedi. Thank you for your concise observations of communication between Amar'e and Fields.

That is the type of analysis that one RARELY receives from the overpaid dudes seated on media row.

I know the plays he's talking about and i don't qualify two good plays as having great chemistry.
For example, Felton and Amare look like the P/R chemistry was coming together, then in the same game in the second half, it looks as if they got a ways to go.

I really have nothing bad to say about fields, and yes he can be a starter, but why weaking your bench

switching out Fields for Chandler on the bench is weakening it?

The idea behind the move is to STRENGTHEN the bench. In this case if he starts Fields I would have to think he sees that it gives him a better balance.

In the end guys have to step up. This team has talent, but there are some areas of concern in the outside shooting dept. and the rebounding dept. Guys just simply have to step up. What I will say is that once these guys have all been in this system for a bit longer we should see them start to really improve. Don't go off the way things look in preseason. The regular season rotation will be down to the essential 8-10 players and that will cause the team to find more consistency and chemistry with each other.

There's too much talent on this team for them to not come together and start clicking at some point soon. It might start in game one.

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10/25/2010  9:56 PM
fields looks like a classic small forward to me. he looks like he’d fit in with the marques johnson/walter davis/bernard/alex english and modern day kevin martin/paul pierce type player. i love that type. he's got a long-ass way to go to ever be mentioned in their company but that 80's prototype model of the all-around sf is still la thing to behold.
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10/25/2010  10:42 PM
Olbrannon wrote:
TymeLessKnicks wrote:if someone would have told me 6 months ago that a 2nd round pick rookie was going to be our starting SG I would have lost my ****.

just sayin...

Well that would be two that didn't go in the first round of the draft starting If he and Moz do...question is does he take enough away from Moz to let Wall win ROY


For what it is worth- you can make a legit case for Mosguv and Fields being mid/late-20s first round talent after what we've seen in the Worlds, SL, and pre-season.
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10/25/2010  10:46 PM
Marv wrote:fields looks like a classic small forward to me. he looks like he’d fit in with the marques johnson/walter davis/bernard/alex english and modern day kevin martin/paul pierce type player. i love that type. he's got a long-ass way to go to ever be mentioned in their company but that 80's prototype model of the all-around sf is still la thing to behold.

I see him more as a SF, also.

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10/25/2010  11:23 PM
If he starts can we kill all this noise about Mike not liking to play rookies? I mean the guy would have 2 in his SL.
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10/26/2010  3:40 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
Marv wrote:fields looks like a classic small forward to me. he looks like he’d fit in with the marques johnson/walter davis/bernard/alex english and modern day kevin martin/paul pierce type player. i love that type. he's got a long-ass way to go to ever be mentioned in their company but that 80's prototype model of the all-around sf is still la thing to behold.

I see him more as a SF, also.

He's definitely an SF or even undersized PF. That's what he played in college according to draftexpress. This might not be a bad thing though, since he should be able to rebound pretty well for his position if he's playing SG, and we need help badly on the boards.

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10/26/2010  3:41 AM
IMO Bill Walker would be a better option at starting SG, but I would not be opposed to Chandler, Fields, or Walker starting at SG. They all bring something different to the table and are all pretty decent. Moving Chandler to the bench makes some sense if you tell him that when he comes in, it is his time to shine and really get aggressive at scoring. He probably is the best scorer between the three. My only concern with Fields is can he consistently hit open threes. If he starts, he is going to get a ton of open shots in the first month of the season b/c teams will not respect him. If he can hit those shots, he should put in a Chandler like performance for us at SG, with better rebounding and assists numbers.
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10/26/2010  11:10 AM
TheGame wrote:IMO Bill Walker would be a better option at starting SG, but I would not be opposed to Chandler, Fields, or Walker starting at SG. They all bring something different to the table and are all pretty decent. Moving Chandler to the bench makes some sense if you tell him that when he comes in, it is his time to shine and really get aggressive at scoring. He probably is the best scorer between the three. My only concern with Fields is can he consistently hit open threes. If he starts, he is going to get a ton of open shots in the first month of the season b/c teams will not respect him. If he can hit those shots, he should put in a Chandler like performance for us at SG, with better rebounding and assists numbers.

Bill Walker is a horrid defender though. He also never seems to make the little hustle plays that Fields makes. For the most part, Walker would be nothing more than a spot up 3-shooter with the starting lineup, and a defensive liability on the other end. Plus, moving Walker into the starting lineup with Gallo gives us NO 3-pt shooting off the bench. Douglas would be our best shooter and even he is very streaky.

I think Chandler is the ideal candidate to run with the second unit because a) he's more athletic than Gallo, and a better fit with Toney D and Randolph's speedball game; and b) having a proven scorer like Chandler in the second unit as opposed to Walker or Fields may result in Randolph not trying to do everything on offense.

I would still love to see this lineup though, at least for a few minutes every game:

Felton
Fields
Chandler
Gallo
Amare

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10/26/2010  11:16 AM
scoshin wrote:Bill Walker is a horrid defender though. He also never seems to make the little hustle plays that Fields makes.

Really? I think Walker is an OK defender and he seems to go for the boards pretty hard. I actually like Walker's game... he shoots a good percentage too.

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10/26/2010  11:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2010  11:25 AM
knickstorrents wrote:
scoshin wrote:Bill Walker is a horrid defender though. He also never seems to make the little hustle plays that Fields makes.

Really? I think Walker is an OK defender and he seems to go for the boards pretty hard. I actually like Walker's game... he shoots a good percentage too.

Horrid was probably too strong an adjective, cause he's no Jamal Crawford on defense. Still, he's definitely below average, and really gives us nothing on the defensive end besides good effort in closing out shooters.

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10/26/2010  1:30 PM
Coach Mike D'Antoni named Landry Fields his starting shooting guard for Wednesday's opener.

Fields, a second-round rookie out of Stanford, came out of nowhere and earned this job with an eyebrow-raising preseason. Still, we shouldn't get too excited from a fantasy perspective. Fields is a glue guy more than a weapon and will have Wilson Chandler/Toney Douglas beating down his door immediately. The upside here isn't much more than 12 points, four rebounds and a 3-pointer nightly. Oct. 26 - 12:52 pm et
Source: Howard Beck on Twitter

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10/26/2010  1:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2010  1:47 PM
iSergio wrote:
Coach Mike D'Antoni named Landry Fields his starting shooting guard for Wednesday's opener.

Fields, a second-round rookie out of Stanford, came out of nowhere and earned this job with an eyebrow-raising preseason. Still, we shouldn't get too excited from a fantasy perspective. Fields is a glue guy more than a weapon and will have Wilson Chandler/Toney Douglas beating down his door immediately. The upside here isn't much more than 12 points, four rebounds and a 3-pointer nightly. Oct. 26 - 12:52 pm et
Source: Howard Beck on Twitter

I have come to the conclusion that Knicks manage to always find a way to hurt themselves. If Chandlers name is being mentioned in trade rumors for Melo shouldn't he be starting and playing big minutes to get him going early. Bigger numbers he produces the more Nuggets might be intrigued by him. Starting Fields right now is a stupid move unless they are showcasing him. What is MDA thinking here.

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