knickstorrents wrote:46% sucks for a primary option, especially for a forward. Steve Nash shoots at a higher percentage than Melo.

Number of sfs that shot over .500 last year=3
Corey maggette
Shawn marion
Lebron james

Number of players that scored over 20 points per game and shoot over 50%=4
Lebron
Chris bosh
Amare
David lee

Number of sf to score 20 ppg and shoot over .500=1
Lebron James

Number of sf to score 20 ppg and shoot with a higher % then Melo=2
Lebron James
Kevin Durant

Bippity10 wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:46% sucks for a primary option, especially for a forward. Steve Nash shoots at a higher percentage than Melo.

Number of sfs that shot over .500 last year=3
Corey maggette
Shawn marion
Lebron james

Number of players that scored over 20 points per game and shoot over 50%=4
Lebron
Chris bosh
Amare
David lee

Number of sf to score 20 ppg and shoot over .500=1
Lebron James

Number of sf to score 20 ppg and shoot with a higher % then Melo=2
Lebron James
Kevin Durant

/thread

fishmike wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:46% sucks for a primary option, especially for a forward. Steve Nash shoots at a higher percentage than Melo.

Number of sfs that shot over .500 last year=3
Corey maggette
Shawn marion
Lebron james

Number of players that scored over 20 points per game and shoot over 50%=4
Lebron
Chris bosh
Amare
David lee

Number of sf to score 20 ppg and shoot over .500=1
Lebron James

Number of sf to score 20 ppg and shoot with a higher % then Melo=2
Lebron James
Kevin Durant

yea Bip.. thats good work. Your just talking straight FG%. Melo also gets the line what? 8 times a game? He lives at the stripe. There is no arguement about Melo's scoring. Its in elite company for sure. Thats never been what the debate is about. Its always been about getting him for the right price, because the wrong price ensures your stuck in round 2 for all the usefull years Amare is here.

If that's the argument then its valid. I actually don't want to give up the farm for him. I'm just debunking this ridiculous notion that the only reason we know melos name is because he shoots a lot and does nothing else. When ranked against his peers he is clearly a great player. When ranked against baldor the mythical creature from the east then of course he sucks.

Here's some more sf rankings for melo
Third in scoring
Fourth in rebounding
Third in fta
Fourth in assists
Fourth in double doubles
Eighth in steals

Is he really a one dimensional volume shooter? Exclude two hall of fame sfs named durant and lebron and he places first, second, first, third, second and sixth in those categories(give or take)

Bippity10 wrote:
Here's some more sf rankings for melo
Third in scoring
Fourth in rebounding
Third in fta
Fourth in assists
Fourth in double doubles
Eighth in steals

Is he really a one dimensional volume shooter? Exclude two hall of fame sfs named durant and lebron and he places first, second, first, third, second and sixth in those categories(give or take)

Why are the knicks restricted to recruiting SFs? Why would we even try to get Melo when SF is our 2nd most stacked position? Our center and shooting guard positions aren't solid, and though I like Felton he is still a question mark.

The whole 'restricting Melo comparisons to other SFs' is a shell game to get people to think it's a good deal to max Melo. Check out what championship caliber teams are paying for players (from Hoopshype):

La Lakers:
Kobe 25mm
Pau 18mm

Heat:
James/Bosh/Wade 14.5mm

Celtics:
KG 18mm
Pierce 13mm
Ray Allen 10mm

The talk of maxing a player like Melo that does not fill a position of need and is either below or not much better than the above players simply does not make sense. Now, if you are in a small market and are trying to fill seats, then sure go ahead and max Melo. But at that point you're doing it for financial reasons, not because you want to win a championship.

knickstorrents wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:
Here's some more sf rankings for melo
Third in scoring
Fourth in rebounding
Third in fta
Fourth in assists
Fourth in double doubles
Eighth in steals

Is he really a one dimensional volume shooter? Exclude two hall of fame sfs named durant and lebron and he places first, second, first, third, second and sixth in those categories(give or take)

Why are the knicks restricted to recruiting SFs? Why would we even try to get Melo when SF is our 2nd most stacked position? Our center and shooting guard positions aren't solid, and though I like Felton he is still a question mark.

The whole 'restricting Melo comparisons to other SFs' is a shell game to get people to think it's a good deal to max Melo. Check out what championship caliber teams are paying for players (from Hoopshype):

La Lakers:
Kobe 25mm
Pau 18mm

Heat:
James/Bosh/Wade 14.5mm

Celtics:
KG 18mm
Pierce 13mm
Ray Allen 10mm

The talk of maxing a player like Melo that does not fill a position of need and is either below or not much better than the above players simply does not make sense. Now, if you are in a small market and are trying to fill seats, then sure go ahead and max Melo. But at that point you're doing it for financial reasons, not because you want to win a championship.

i guess you're upset we maxed out Amare too.

knickstorrents wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:
Here's some more sf rankings for melo
Third in scoring
Fourth in rebounding
Third in fta
Fourth in assists
Fourth in double doubles
Eighth in steals

Is he really a one dimensional volume shooter? Exclude two hall of fame sfs named durant and lebron and he places first, second, first, third, second and sixth in those categories(give or take)

Why are the knicks restricted to recruiting SFs? Why would we even try to get Melo when SF is our 2nd most stacked position? Our center and shooting guard positions aren't solid, and though I like Felton he is still a question mark.

The whole 'restricting Melo comparisons to other SFs' is a shell game to get people to think it's a good deal to max Melo. Check out what championship caliber teams are paying for players (from Hoopshype):

La Lakers:
Kobe 25mm
Pau 18mm

Heat:
James/Bosh/Wade 14.5mm

Celtics:
KG 18mm
Pierce 13mm
Ray Allen 10mm

The talk of maxing a player like Melo that does not fill a position of need and is either below or not much better than the above players simply does not make sense. Now, if you are in a small market and are trying to fill seats, then sure go ahead and max Melo. But at that point you're doing it for financial reasons, not because you want to win a championship.

Papabear Says

The problem is we don't have a shooting foward that we can depend on night after night.