Uptown wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

iSergio wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:No he's not.

28 ppg, 7 rpg, 3 apg, 1 spg IS a SuperStar to me.

LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard and maybe Pau Gasol are superstars. Carmello is a star. If you take Carmello off the Nuggets, they would be worse, but they could recover pretty quick. Especially if they get good young players. If you take any of those guys I just listed, they get sent on a downward spiral. Those are the guys you go for at all costs and I'm hesitant to do that with Chris Paul because of his knee injury.

Carmello isn't in their atmosphere even though he puts up great stats.

Pau Gasol is a superstar now, lol. You think Pau is holding up the Larry O'Brien trohpy in June if he stays in Memphis?

I'll tell you another thing there is no way Wade, Kobe, Paul and LeBron are holding up a Larry O'Brien trophy without another big time star type player.

Uptown wrote:

subzero0 wrote:Yea, I started thinking about this. I think even with Melo we wont really have enough to become a dynasty, which is what we are really after right?

Dynasty, maybe not but we are a better squad with Melo. As is, imo, this team is battling for the 8th spot. With Melo we can arguably be in the top 4 in the east. Adding Melo brings us a step closer. Who says adding Melo means we are done adding pieces. I totally agree with iSergio, you get the superstars first, then you find the pieces to match. This is a superstar league. You dont have superstars, you aint winning no chips.

We already have a superstar. Amare. The best Power Forward in the league right now. Nobody here is saying don't get Melo. We are just saying that we should wait until the summer. No team in the right mind would trade for Melo for a 1 year rental. Well, maybe the folks who has the blueprint of succes would, but any other team would be foolish to do so. Keep our assets and sign Melo to the max in the summer of 2011.

Allanfan20 wrote:Pau Gasol is a superstar now, lol. You think Pau is holding up the Larry O'Brien trohpy in June if he stays in Memphis?

I'd much rather trade for pau gasol than melo. Melo does not fill a need on this roster. As mentioned previously, he does not provide spacing, he is a high volume ineffecient scorer, he doesn't rebound well. He is a Harrington/Dominique type. He's great for small market teams that need to fill the seats and don't care about championships. He's not great for teams that want to contend for a championship.

I'd take him as a free agent, not otherwise.

tj23 wrote:Amare is not the best power forward. Try 4th or 5th.

Damn, son. What you been smokin'? Well, at least he's the best offensive 4 in the league.

BRIGGS wrote:Lets take the Nets offer of Derrick Favors Devin Harris and 3 #1 pick--the similar deal would be Randolph Gallo Chandler Fields Curry and 2014 #1--is that what you want to give up for a guy we may get for free--or we may not even want after we see the guys play? We have a pretty nice looking team--why cant we be patient--what is the rush--I see none.

Word. Patience is key here. If Melo insists on doing it the S&T route, we should NOT make an unacceptable offer (i.e., an offer that includes more than one of Gallo, Chandler, AR is unacceptable). That means either Denver accepts this offer or gets nothing from us:

$3mil cash, Curry's expiring, Gallo, Fields, 2014 pick (protected only for the top 3).

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!

If they balk, we tell Melo to sign someplace else or accept our MAX MONEY in the summer and play with a very stout team that retains cap flexibility, can add additional talent (say Rubio, or Nash, or possibly CP3), and has Amare in his prime.

Walsh needs to man up right now, even if it means we whiff on Melo. Truth is, he's not a well-rounder player, mainly a high-volume, clutch scorer and amazing finisher. Gallo has potentially higher upside than Melo, it's not like he's a scrub.

A little birdie told me Melo wants that legacy thing, and he wants it in NYC, at the Garden. Spike gwine make a flic about it down the road. Melo will become a historic figure because of his association with a phenomenal team, not because he is so elite.