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AnubisADL
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7/20/2010  3:57 PM
Ira wrote:To me, the key to AR's developement is developing his outside shot. If he can become even pretty good from outside, he'll be very tough to guard. What's encouraging to me is his foul shooting - 80% last season. If he can hit his foul shots that well, he ought to be able to hit medium range jumper with some room. It will take work on his part, but I think he can do it.

True. I think he needs to just take better quality shots. I notice guys who can get whatever shot they want tend to take some difficult shots that aren't necessary.

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7/20/2010  4:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/20/2010  4:13 PM
blkexec wrote:How could you not get excited over this guy?


That's a sweet clip.
We haven't had an explosive front court player like this in a long time.
I'll tell you, if we'd just landed Amare this summer, I'd have been a been down about it, wouldn't have been enough.
But getting both these guys really gives me something to look forward to.
Get your head on straight kid, cause we ballin'. Dey scared now!

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7/20/2010  4:17 PM
Panos wrote:
blkexec wrote:How could you not get excited over this guy?


That's a sweet clip.
We haven't had an explosive front court player like this in a long time.
I'll tell you, if we'd just landed Amare this summer, I'd have been a been down about it, wouldn't have been enough.
But getting both these guys really gives me something to look forward to.
Get your head on straight kid, cause we ballin'. Dey scared now!


Yao hit him in the face at the end of the clip when Randolph went over him for a score- surprised the announcers did not comment on that- it is the reason he got in Yao's face.
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7/20/2010  4:19 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Ira wrote:To me, the key to AR's developement is developing his outside shot. If he can become even pretty good from outside, he'll be very tough to guard. What's encouraging to me is his foul shooting - 80% last season. If he can hit his foul shots that well, he ought to be able to hit medium range jumper with some room. It will take work on his part, but I think he can do it.

True. I think he needs to just take better quality shots. I notice guys who can get whatever shot they want tend to take some difficult shots that aren't necessary.


Yup. He had a decent midrange shot with a nice stroke- just has to know when to take the shot.
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7/20/2010  4:57 PM
AR better get to work on his 3 point shot
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7/20/2010  5:02 PM
TMS wrote:AR better get to work on his 3 point shot

Yeah, I guess Amar'e better, too. When has a big man who can't shoot a three ever succeeded under D'Antoni? Good analysis.

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7/20/2010  5:03 PM
crzymdups wrote:
TMS wrote:AR better get to work on his 3 point shot

Yeah, I guess Amar'e better, too. When has a big man who can't shoot a three ever succeeded under D'Antoni? Good analysis.

Amare works in the P&R & in the low post genius... is that how we plan on using AR?

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7/20/2010  5:16 PM
TMS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
TMS wrote:AR better get to work on his 3 point shot

Yeah, I guess Amar'e better, too. When has a big man who can't shoot a three ever succeeded under D'Antoni? Good analysis.

Amare works in the P&R & in the low post genius... is that how we plan on using AR?

Potentially, but there are more than two positions in D'Antoni's offense.

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7/20/2010  5:19 PM
TMS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
TMS wrote:AR better get to work on his 3 point shot

Yeah, I guess Amar'e better, too. When has a big man who can't shoot a three ever succeeded under D'Antoni? Good analysis.

Amare works in the P&R & in the low post genius... is that how we plan on using AR?

Hopefully Randolph and Gallo blossom so we can dump Amare before he becomes Allan Houston 2.0

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7/20/2010  5:24 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Hopefully Randolph and Gallo blossom so we can dump Amare before he becomes Allan Houston 2.0

I think we'll be happy for three years out of five. I have no idea which three though.

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7/20/2010  5:59 PM
crzymdups wrote:
TMS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
TMS wrote:AR better get to work on his 3 point shot

Yeah, I guess Amar'e better, too. When has a big man who can't shoot a three ever succeeded under D'Antoni? Good analysis.

Amare works in the P&R & in the low post genius... is that how we plan on using AR?

Potentially, but there are more than two positions in D'Antoni's offense.

ok well maybe next time instead of acting like a douchebag with your condescending snit you can just bring up a counter example to why you don't feel AR needs to be able to shoot 3's in this offense? for the record, David Lee went into the offseason intent on developing a 3 pt shot to add to his arsenal... if a bigman has no business shooting 3's in this offense why would that be on his agenda this summer?

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7/20/2010  6:31 PM
blkexec wrote:How could you not get excited over this guy?

That's some great stuff right there.

You could not put together an 8:00 clip reel of the entire Knicks team making these sames plays (esp. defensive plays on this video) over the last three years. This kid can do stuff we haven't seen around here since Camby. Except he looks like Camby plus Sprewell. Very exciting. Love the ferocity.

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7/20/2010  10:19 PM
I like how when he makes a mistake, he does not give up on the play. If he can stay healthy and take his game up a couple of levels (especially with his jumpshot), he will be a borderline All-star.
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7/20/2010  11:24 PM
TheGame wrote:I like how when he makes a mistake, he does not give up on the play. If he can stay healthy and take his game up a couple of levels (especially with his jumpshot), he will be a borderline All-star.

You make a GREAT point! It's one thing to make mistakes and yet another to give the extra effort to erase those mistakes. I really liked this kid's potential before we got him and now i'm really pulling for him to succeed like crazy. I don't feel there's a need to have to define his game just yet and to be honest in MDA's system is just rewards players that are active and aggressive. If you move your feet and play the passing lanes, go after rebounds etc. You can get out on the break and get easy scores that will raise your scoring avg. His teams have historically been great at the easy score and players like Marion, Amar'e and and now AR can put up All Star numbers because of the style of play.

I'm not worried about AR making mistakes and I hope MDA isn't either. He's the kind of player that will make more positive plays than negative and he needs more PT not less. Just looking at how he was playing last year before he got injured, you can see that he's not really a big mistake player. His TO's aren't high and I think his shotblocking ability helps to make up for any of his mistakes. He's just a heck of a pick up for this team. Really hoping he explodes this year.

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7/21/2010  8:01 AM
I like his defense... but an 8 minute clip and there was what, one pass? The guy needs to work on his court vision and move the ball better on offense... I can see D'Antoni being upset with him because it looks like he's a black hole on offense (like a more talented Harrington). I hope I'm wrong... we'll see when the season starts.
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7/21/2010  9:38 AM
knickstorrents wrote:I like his defense... but an 8 minute clip and there was what, one pass? The guy needs to work on his court vision and move the ball better on offense... I can see D'Antoni being upset with him because it looks like he's a black hole on offense (like a more talented Harrington). I hope I'm wrong... we'll see when the season starts.

Dude, relax, he's a PF/C. Why would you expect to see passes in a highlight clip? He ain't Jason Kidd or Deron Williams.

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7/21/2010  5:17 PM
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knickstorrents wrote:I like his defense... but an 8 minute clip and there was what, one pass? The guy needs to work on his court vision and move the ball better on offense... I can see D'Antoni being upset with him because it looks like he's a black hole on offense (like a more talented Harrington). I hope I'm wrong... we'll see when the season starts.

Dude, relax, he's a PF/C. Why would you expect to see passes in a highlight clip? He ain't Jason Kidd or Deron Williams.

Man AR avg'd 2.3 asts in Dec. I think if this kudos up over 25 mpg he's gonna fill up boxscores!

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7/21/2010  7:40 PM
AR got a serious handle, but his floppy approach to therim makes me a bit concerned. He seems to fall down at messed up angles too often. Still, he pwns the paint nicely. Gotta love his ups on D. David "No D" Who?
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7/21/2010  9:33 PM
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AnubisADL wrote:What? A young player player takes bad shots? A young player is emotional?

LOL at that making him a headcase. I guess some people forgot how Bryant used to play during his first few years in the league.

AnubisADL this is what I saw gallup do in Europe, I was expecting him to do the same instead of being a spot up shooter.

That's a strong Gallinari vid.

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7/21/2010  9:49 PM
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playa2 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:What? A young player player takes bad shots? A young player is emotional?

LOL at that making him a headcase. I guess some people forgot how Bryant used to play during his first few years in the league.

AnubisADL this is what I saw gallup do in Europe, I was expecting him to do the same instead of being a spot up shooter.

That's a strong Gallinari vid.

That's what I'm saying masterjedidarkcaster, I was looking for this kid to play for the knicks. He really let me down from being # 6 overall in 2007

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