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VDesai
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7/9/2010  7:42 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Brown's system really makes PG's look like crap and it didn't help that Charlotte has awful shooters around Raymond.

Thats a great point. Marbury came off a career year and then looked like crap the next year under Brown. Felton's game also stepped back a bit under LB. The pace of the game is a lot slower.

I think Felton playing under D'Antoni can push 10 assists. This guy still has a lot of upside and is gonna really help us dictate the pace. He has a lot more playmaking ability than a Duhon or Ridnour type.

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7/9/2010  7:51 PM
VDesai wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Brown's system really makes PG's look like crap and it didn't help that Charlotte has awful shooters around Raymond.

Thats a great point. Marbury came off a career year and then looked like crap the next year under Brown. Felton's game also stepped back a bit under LB. The pace of the game is a lot slower.

I think Felton playing under D'Antoni can push 10 assists. This guy still has a lot of upside and is gonna really help us dictate the pace. He has a lot more playmaking ability than a Duhon or Ridnour type.

How can you guys say Larry Brown held Felton back when he had the best year of his career under last season. I hope Felton
improves, but I don't see any sudden change in his game. On the bright side, he is a legit starter.

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7/9/2010  7:55 PM
Mray20 wrote:2011 NBA Easter conference first round (1) Miami Heat vs (8) NY Knicks.... and the Knicks get revenge on the entire world!

just like the strike shortened '98/'99 season..alan houston game winner game 5

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7/9/2010  7:56 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Brown's system really makes PG's look like crap and it didn't help that Charlotte has awful shooters around Raymond.

Thats a great point. Marbury came off a career year and then looked like crap the next year under Brown. Felton's game also stepped back a bit under LB. The pace of the game is a lot slower.

I think Felton playing under D'Antoni can push 10 assists. This guy still has a lot of upside and is gonna really help us dictate the pace. He has a lot more playmaking ability than a Duhon or Ridnour type.

How can you guys say Larry Brown held Felton back when he had the best year of his career under last season. I hope Felton
improves, but I don't see any sudden change in his game. On the bright side, he is a legit starter.

Best shot selection but lowest production in terms of scoring and assists. He was getting around 7.5 apg prior to Brown. I think this is a player that works best in a fast paced game because his game is all about speed and playmaking

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7/9/2010  8:12 PM
I like this deal, A LOT if its only for 3 yrs. 5 yr contracts guys get too complacent, 3 yr there is no real time to turn it off.

Felton is a guy that gets the ball and goes. Unlike Duhon, who I literally never see beat a guy off the dribble, Felton has "turn the corner" speed and could flourish on the pick-and-roll with Amare. He can also run the break, which Duhon couldn't do. This is a major upgrade at the 1.

I like Felton/Chandler/Gallinari/Amare/Randolph with Toney D as the 6th man. Azabuike, Turiaf, Bill Walker are also competent subs. Who knows what you'll get from Rautins, Fields, Fat Ed, Jordan, or Landry, hopefully 1 or 2 of them will contribute and the Knicks can go 10 deep. I think that team can win 45 games and I think I'm being objective. Knicks should be in the playoffs next year.

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7/9/2010  8:14 PM
He is quick with the ball, not a 3pt threat, plays defense, excels in the transition game but faulters in half court due to his shooting, but he makes up for it with the pick and roll, for he will drive if its there and u must respect his midrange J.
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7/9/2010  8:15 PM
From ESPN:

The length of the deal has not yet been agreed upon, but Felton will earn a starting salary in the $7 million range.

Felton was widely considered the top free-agent point guard available in this summer's superstar-laden market. One of the other top free-agent playmakers, Steve Blake, came off the market earlier this week when he agreed to a four-year, $16 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers.

The Bobcats selected Felton fifth overall in the 2005 NBA draft, and he has career averages of 13.3 points, 6.4 assists and 1.4 steals per game. He's proven to be durable, appearing in at least 78 games in each of his five seasons as Charlotte's starting point guard, and should bring stability to the Knicks' backcourt.

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7/9/2010  8:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/9/2010  8:20 PM
BigSm00th wrote:From ESPN:

The length of the deal has not yet been agreed upon, but Felton will earn a starting salary in the $7 million range.

Felton was widely considered the top free-agent point guard available in this summer's superstar-laden market. One of the other top free-agent playmakers, Steve Blake, came off the market earlier this week when he agreed to a four-year, $16 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers.

The Bobcats selected Felton fifth overall in the 2005 NBA draft, and he has career averages of 13.3 points, 6.4 assists and 1.4 steals per game. He's proven to be durable, appearing in at least 78 games in each of his five seasons as Charlotte's starting point guard, and should bring stability to the Knicks' backcourt.

7mil ain't bad...

Damn... How does wiki update so fast? LOL

Raymond Bernard Felton Jr. (born June 26, 1984 in Marion, South Carolina) is an American professional basketball point guard for the New York Knicks.

On July 9, 2010, Felton signed with the New York Knicks to a 3-year/$21 million contract

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7/9/2010  8:20 PM
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Cosmic wrote:Knocks I've heard on Felton in the past...

Slow.
Injured.


Unfounded?

I really don't know much about the guy. Don't even recall him impressing me when we faced him.

*shrug*

Anyone got the REAL scoop? (not a homer or hater scoop, an unbiased one)

Don't you think this would be MDa's choice--they probably said chose and this was his guy--what are you going to do? He did play better last year.

Do you have a scoop on the kid?

Or are you just defending him in the face, of well, questions about who he is?

Has to be MDA's choice. Donnie told him: "These are the guys out there- who do you want me to get?"

Shooting stats went up this past year- significantly above the previous year:

FG%- 41% to 46%

3pt$- 28% yo 38%

The shooting numbers were all career highs.

Nelson supposedly ate him alive in the playoffs, but I did not see any of the game.

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7/9/2010  8:28 PM
gr33d wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:From ESPN:

The length of the deal has not yet been agreed upon, but Felton will earn a starting salary in the $7 million range.

Felton was widely considered the top free-agent point guard available in this summer's superstar-laden market. One of the other top free-agent playmakers, Steve Blake, came off the market earlier this week when he agreed to a four-year, $16 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers.

The Bobcats selected Felton fifth overall in the 2005 NBA draft, and he has career averages of 13.3 points, 6.4 assists and 1.4 steals per game. He's proven to be durable, appearing in at least 78 games in each of his five seasons as Charlotte's starting point guard, and should bring stability to the Knicks' backcourt.

7mil ain't bad...

Damn... How does wiki update so fast? LOL

Raymond Bernard Felton Jr. (born June 26, 1984 in Marion, South Carolina) is an American professional basketball point guard for the New York Knicks.

On July 9, 2010, Felton signed with the New York Knicks to a 3-year/$21 million contract

3 years 21 mm is palatable

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7/9/2010  8:34 PM
3 yrs / 21 mil? That is a very good contract for the Knicks. Totally tradable and I think he will boost his value well past the 7 per annum. If I'm not mistaken this leaves enough cap space for a max contract next year. (5-6 leftover now + 11 mil coming off from Curry next year).

Add Melo to this squad next year and I definitely think it has the look of a contender.

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7/9/2010  8:34 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
gr33d wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:From ESPN:

The length of the deal has not yet been agreed upon, but Felton will earn a starting salary in the $7 million range.

Felton was widely considered the top free-agent point guard available in this summer's superstar-laden market. One of the other top free-agent playmakers, Steve Blake, came off the market earlier this week when he agreed to a four-year, $16 million deal with the Los Angeles Lakers.

The Bobcats selected Felton fifth overall in the 2005 NBA draft, and he has career averages of 13.3 points, 6.4 assists and 1.4 steals per game. He's proven to be durable, appearing in at least 78 games in each of his five seasons as Charlotte's starting point guard, and should bring stability to the Knicks' backcourt.

7mil ain't bad...

Damn... How does wiki update so fast? LOL

Raymond Bernard Felton Jr. (born June 26, 1984 in Marion, South Carolina) is an American professional basketball point guard for the New York Knicks.

On July 9, 2010, Felton signed with the New York Knicks to a 3-year/$21 million contract

3 years 21 mm is palatable

Yup. Anything more in terms of dollars or length would be foolish.

Still high, but in this market I guess it could be worse. We could be stuck with Joe Johnson...

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7/9/2010  8:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/9/2010  8:42 PM
VDesai wrote:3 yrs / 21 mil? That is a very good contract for the Knicks. Totally tradable and I think he will boost his value well past the 7 per annum. If I'm not mistaken this leaves enough cap space for a max contract next year. (5-6 leftover now + 11 mil coming off from Curry next year).

Add Melo to this squad next year and I definitely think it has the look of a contender.

A 5/35 contract would have been a bad decision by Walsh- you can live with this contract.

Azubuike also comes off after this year, as does Chandler- another $ 6/7 M.

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7/9/2010  8:53 PM
It doesn't mean much but Raymond Felton has always KILLED us. I remember comparing him to Tim Hardaway a few times. He's not Steve Nash ot Hardaway obviously but he'll be MUCH better than Chris Duhon. Felton has the speed to anchor the SSOL system. And at $7M, it's not bad at all.
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7/9/2010  8:57 PM
Looking at Felton's stats, I am impressed with his longevity and consistency. For 5 years he has:

-played at least 78 games a year; career average 35mpg; rebounds - Career avg 3.4 (lowest 3 and highest 3.8)
-steals career avg 1.4 (lowest 1.2 and highest 1.5)
-ppg career avg 13.3 ; low 11.9(rookie yr); high 14.4
-assists career avg 6.5 but feel down last yr under Brown to 5.6

Basically, you know what you are going to get with Felton. Seems very steady performer. Not great but also not bad at all.

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7/9/2010  9:04 PM
alau53 wrote:
Mray20 wrote:2011 NBA Easter conference first round (1) Miami Heat vs (8) NY Knicks.... and the Knicks get revenge on the entire world!

just like the strike shortened '98/'99 season..alan houston game winner game 5

I'm gettin chills just thinking about this the underdog Knicks against the the Dream Team Heat. I really hope Amare becomes the leader of this team he talks like one I just hope he can be that leader we have not had in a very long time.

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7/9/2010  9:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/9/2010  9:16 PM
I liked him at UNC, and last season, he seemed to be an absolute Knick killer (do you guys not remember all our close games with Charlotte last season? It was Felton who constantly hit a dagger three or laid the ball in during the final two minutes) But considering we had Duhon guarding PG's, and David Lee protecting the paint, pretty much every PG scorched us.

One thing though is that at UNC, he excelled in an uptempo offense, but then struggled in the NBA playing slower half-court sets. Moreover, Charlotte had some really awful offensive teams during Felton's first three years. Don't forget they were an expansion team whose best player was Okafor. His last season may have been a fluke or it could've been a product of playing on a decent team for once. I mean when you look at his teams, Felton never even got to play with a big man as skilled as Amare, so we'll get to see how good he really is at the PnR.


Personally, I think it's a solid signing, doesn't hurt our ability to sign a max in 2011, and if it's only 3 yrs as reported, he's still tradable if we want to upgrade to Tony Parker or Chris Paul. But we couldn't sit tight with NO point guards on our roster, hoping that we could trade for Parker or Paul. We needed a floor general now, and Felton can definitely fill that role for a couple seasons. And who knows, playing under D'Antoni and in an uptempo system may bring out the best in his game.

edit - I should also add, this guy is definitely a good defender too. He does a good job pressuring ballhandlers with good lateral quickness. And he has some good strength so doesn't get backed down easily. I believe he also guarded 2's when he played with Augustin in the backcourt. He did get burned by Nelson in the playoffs, but that usually isn't the norm.

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7/9/2010  9:13 PM
scoshin wrote:I liked him at UNC, and last season, he seemed to be an absolute Knick killer (do you guys not remember all our close games with Charlotte last season? It was Felton who constantly hit a dagger three or laid the ball in during the final two minutes) But considering we had Duhon guarding PG's, and David Lee protecting the paint, pretty much every PG scorched us.

One thing though is that at UNC, he excelled in an uptempo offense, but then struggled in the NBA playing slower half-court sets. Moreover, Charlotte had some really awful offensive teams during Felton's first three years. Don't forget they were an expansion team whose best player was Okafor. His last season may have been a fluke or it could've been a product of playing on a decent team for once.

Personally, I think it's a solid signing, doesn't hurt our ability to sign a max in 2011, and if it's only 3 yrs as reported, he's still tradable if we want to upgrade to Tony Parker or Chris Paul. But we couldn't sit tight with NO point guards on our roster, hoping that we could trade for Parker or Paul. We needed a floor general now, and Felton can definitely fill that role for a couple seasons. And who knows, playing under D'Antoni and in an uptempo system may bring out the best in his game.

I like Felton he's a good guard but Chris Childs was a Knick Killer 2 when he was on the Nets and well we know how that worked out. He's better than Childs I know that I'm just saying that's all

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7/9/2010  9:16 PM
VDesai wrote:3 yrs / 21 mil? That is a very good contract for the Knicks. Totally tradable and I think he will boost his value well past the 7 per annum. If I'm not mistaken this leaves enough cap space for a max contract next year. (5-6 leftover now + 11 mil coming off from Curry next year).

Add Melo to this squad next year and I definitely think it has the look of a contender.

sing it des!

3yr/21mm is an extremely good deal. to compare.. we gave duhon 2yr/12mm and and felton is 10000000000000000X the player duhon is.

felton/chandler/gallo/AR/amare with turiaf, buke, td, walker off the bench is really nice. very young but with that comes a ton of athleticism, good shooters, good defenders.. i really like this team.. i think this team vies for the 5 or 6 seed. and if we are lucky enough to get melo a year from now forget it..

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7/9/2010  9:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/9/2010  9:20 PM
nyk4ever wrote:sing it des!

3yr/21mm is an extremely good deal. to compare.. we gave duhon 2yr/12mm and and felton is 10000000000000000X the player duhon is.

felton/chandler/gallo/AR/amare with turiaf, buke, td, walker off the bench is really nice. very young but with that comes a ton of athleticism, good shooters, good defenders.. i really like this team.. i think this team vies for the 5 or 6 seed. and if we are lucky enough to get melo a year from now forget it..

Just the fact that Felton pushes the ball and can play transition offense makes him 10000000000000x better than Duhon. Seriously, it was so hard to watch games last season and see Duhon walk the ball up every possession.

Also, Duhon got 4 yrs/$20M. I would consider 3 yrs/$21M for Felton a bargain compared to that.

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