djsunyc wrote:

The Toronto Raptors have not spoken to Chris Bosh since their meeting with him on Thursday and have yet to be told which team Bosh wants the Raptors to send him to in a sign-and-trade, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Raptors have prepared sign-and-trade scenarios with close to a dozen teams, but are focusing on potential deals with Cleveland, Miami, New Jersey and Chicago. Talks with the Cavaliers have not progressed to where the Raptors have requested specific players, but it’s expected they’ll want forward J.J. Hickson and Anderson Varejao.

If Bosh is determined to leave Toronto and still get a sixth year and extra $30 million on his contract, he’ll have to engage in a sign-and-trade with a team that can give the Raptors an attractive-enough package. The Raptors would prefer young talent and draft picks in a deal rather than a salary-clearing trade exception.

Raptors officials have come to think LeBron James and Dwyane Wade will stay in Cleveland and Miami, respectively, and both will be fighting for Bosh to join them.

there is a line drawn in the sand by toronto. bosh has been very unprofessional as BC stated his agent is also frustrated with the lack of communication at times with bosh.

So it's about how bad Bosh wants his money and if so he's going to Cleveland as BC likes what Cleveland has to offer most. I still think the Rockets have a shot. Bosh has always been about the money.

from RealGM:

A person with knowledge of the negotiations told Ken Berger of CBS Sports that Chris Bosh is interested in teaming up with LeBron James, but he is more likely to sign off on a sign-and-trade that sends him to the Nets, Bulls or even the Heat.

Berger writes that Bosh "remains decidedly unenthusiastic about joining James in Cleveland."

"If LeBron went to New Jersey, he'd consider that," the person said of Bosh. "It's too late for New York. He wants to play with LeBron if LeBron leaves, but not necessarily in Cleveland."

A source says that the Bulls have not spoken to the Raptors about a sign-and-trade for Bosh.

The Heat is continuing to work to deal Michael Beasley in order to maximize their salary-cap room. Dwyane Wade canceled a public appearance he was scheduled to make in South Florida on Tuesday.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67886/20100706/source_bosh_unenthusiastic_about_cleveland/#ixzz0svU4kFJa

If I were Bosh, I wouldn't be very enthusiastic about going to Ohio either. Just sayin...

The Bulls have had consistent dialogue with the Raptors regarding sign-and-trade possibilities to land Chris Bosh, according to league sources.

Whether the Bulls are at the top of the list is unknown. ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reported Tuesday morning that the Raptors have told the Cavaliers they are open to signing-and-trading Bosh to them.

That, of course, would significantly increase the Cavaliers' chances of retaining LeBron James, if it's true. League sources couldn't immediately independently confirm Broussard's report.

The Raptors have made clear their desire for Joakim Noah in sign-and-trade talks with the Bulls, who have resisted those efforts. The Bulls have proposed a package involving Taj Gibson, multiple first-round draft picks and a trade exception.

Most league-wide speculation has centered on Bosh either wanting to play with James or Dwyane Wade, whose appearance at a charity event Tuesday in South Florida was canceled.

One issue with Bosh going to the Cavaliers is he currently would have to play center, a position he has said he would prefer avoiding. The only way Bosh can receive a six-year, $125 million contact is via a sign-and-trade.

Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo told reporters in Toronto on Monday that he may or may not participate in sign-and-trade. However, teams pursuing Bosh believe that's merely a smokescreen and continue dialogue with the Raptors.

In other free-agency news, former Bulls guard Chris Duhon verbally agreed to a four-year, $15 million deal with the Magic. The Tribune reported that new coach Tom Thibodeau had performed background work on Duhon as a possible addition to the Bulls.

so one source says chicago made no offer and this one says they did.

martin wrote:

djsunyc wrote:

The Bulls have had consistent dialogue with the Raptors regarding sign-and-trade possibilities to land Chris Bosh, according to league sources.

Whether the Bulls are at the top of the list is unknown. ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reported Tuesday morning that the Raptors have told the Cavaliers they are open to signing-and-trading Bosh to them.

That, of course, would significantly increase the Cavaliers' chances of retaining LeBron James, if it's true. League sources couldn't immediately independently confirm Broussard's report.

The Raptors have made clear their desire for Joakim Noah in sign-and-trade talks with the Bulls, who have resisted those efforts. The Bulls have proposed a package involving Taj Gibson, multiple first-round draft picks and a trade exception.

Most league-wide speculation has centered on Bosh either wanting to play with James or Dwyane Wade, whose appearance at a charity event Tuesday in South Florida was canceled.

One issue with Bosh going to the Cavaliers is he currently would have to play center, a position he has said he would prefer avoiding. The only way Bosh can receive a six-year, $125 million contact is via a sign-and-trade.

Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo told reporters in Toronto on Monday that he may or may not participate in sign-and-trade. However, teams pursuing Bosh believe that's merely a smokescreen and continue dialogue with the Raptors.

In other free-agency news, former Bulls guard Chris Duhon verbally agreed to a four-year, $15 million deal with the Magic. The Tribune reported that new coach Tom Thibodeau had performed background work on Duhon as a possible addition to the Bulls.

so one source says chicago made no offer and this one says they did.

this is a weird and conflicting report to me. Bosh wants a sign and trade. Bosh would like to go to CHI. Bosh may go to CHI with Wade. ...so Bosh gets 6 year deal with Bulls and Wade also goes there but for 5 years and less money?

that's what's holding everything up:

DWade and Bosh both want 6yrs $120M. Extremely hard for a team to come up with two trade packages for a trade like that and still have anything left at the end of the day. Bulls already gutted their team down to the essentials to get close to two max cap slots - they don't have much to offer in a sign and trade for one of these guys, let alone two.

Miami has nothing to offer TOR for Bosh, so it's hard for them to get both guys.

Cleveland has little to offer TOR for Bosh, but possible can make the best offer at this rate.

Bosh and Wade and Bron want to team up somehow - but none of them are willing to take less money to do so. Greed and ego may keep them apart.

In hindsight, World Wide Wes may have done everyone a disservice by urging them to create cap room. It might have been better to keep those assets stocked in the cupboard for S&Ts. WWWes certainly made sure it was a spectacle though. When all this is said and done though, I wonder how front offices will view his input...

Panos wrote:

djsunyc wrote:ultimately, bosh will probably end up where he wants to. it would be foolish to think otherwise. but hopefully colangelo can extract something more than what the initial offers were from that team.

Hopefully for whom? Personally, I hope Bosh goes back to Toronto.

that ship has sailed my friend.

raptors were going to do a huge promotional push for him to stay involving the city back in march...but scrapped it after they got bad vibes from him after the all star break.

djsunyc wrote:

Panos wrote:

djsunyc wrote:ultimately, bosh will probably end up where he wants to. it would be foolish to think otherwise. but hopefully colangelo can extract something more than what the initial offers were from that team.

Hopefully for whom? Personally, I hope Bosh goes back to Toronto.

that ship has sailed my friend.

raptors were going to do a huge promotional push for him to stay involving the city back in march...but scrapped it after they got bad vibes from him after the all star break.

in retrospect, think they should have traded him last deadline?