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Suns Beat Writer... Amare just received his best offer yet, speculates it was from us
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loweyecue
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7/2/2010  1:20 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Juice wrote:http://twitter.com/wojyahoonba

Knicks haven't yet made an offer to Amar'e, sources say. Sides will talk over weekend. LBJ and Wade still recruiting forwards for themselves.

Tommy Dee just needed to confirm his worthlessness to the public and he did so with this.

The phoenix radio host had also confirmed amare had a max offer from the Knicks on the table.

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7/2/2010  1:20 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
sidsanders wrote:did riles claim as to the heat or so?

No. I just read Riles pitch to Stoudemire/other free agents in that article and wanted to insult Pat Riley.

ha... understood. this is flippin nuts. the knicks gotta get some luck for once.

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7/2/2010  1:22 AM
loweyecue wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Juice wrote:http://twitter.com/wojyahoonba

Knicks haven't yet made an offer to Amar'e, sources say. Sides will talk over weekend. LBJ and Wade still recruiting forwards for themselves.

Tommy Dee just needed to confirm his worthlessness to the public and he did so with this.

The phoenix radio host had also confirmed amare had a max offer from the Knicks on the table.

He's been wrong on some things. He gets some of it right but not all of it. He also is believed to have fibbed on what kind of offer Phx presented Amar'e.

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7/2/2010  1:29 AM
Oh man, I've been missing out on the fun. I really hope we can get this Amare deal in. That would be huge, especially to show LeBron we're serious about this sheeot.
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7/2/2010  1:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/2/2010  1:48 AM
http://twitter.com/BenjaminHochma

This guy just said Amare accepted a 5 year deal for 103 million dollars AND spoke to LeBron beforehand. Is this sheeeeot f'ing true???? It's unconfirmed though.

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7/2/2010  1:48 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:http://twitter.com/BenjaminHochma

This guy just said Amare accepted a 5 year deal for 103 million dollars AND spoke to LeBron beforehand. Is this sheeeeot f'ing true???? It's unconfirmed though.

This is a confirmed FAKE Twitter account.

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7/2/2010  1:53 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:http://twitter.com/BenjaminHochma

This guy just said Amare accepted a 5 year deal for 103 million dollars AND spoke to LeBron beforehand. Is this sheeeeot f'ing true???? It's unconfirmed though.

This is a confirmed FAKE Twitter account.

Yeah I just saw that. My bad for getting excited over a friggin' Twitter account.

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7/2/2010  7:03 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:http://twitter.com/BenjaminHochma

This guy just said Amare accepted a 5 year deal for 103 million dollars AND spoke to LeBron beforehand. Is this sheeeeot f'ing true???? It's unconfirmed though.


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7/2/2010  7:54 AM
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AnubisADL wrote:Wait didnt Lebron want Jamison instead of Amare at the trade deadline? Im just saying. Last time I checked Lebron wanted a stretch 4.

Only way I see NY offering a Max to Amare this early is if they feel they aren't going to get Lebron or Bosh. Amare and Arenas isnt that bad and is the same as Amare and Johnson to me.

Uh, no.

Cavs tried to trade for Amare but Suns wanted more than JJ Hickson. Jamison was a backup plan they already had in place.

I thought we had a stretch 4 in Gallo?

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7/2/2010  8:04 AM
I'm all for Amare Stoudemire. Like Fish keeps reminding us, he was the BEST player in the entire league the second half of the season. He has injury history but he's been completely healthy the last few years. He's only 27 years old too. I just hope Mike D'Antoni doesn't view him as the Center. We will need to acquire a Robin Lopez-type Center and slide STAT to the 4. But if our Plan A comes true, the pick and roll with LeBron James and STAT with Danilo Gallinari on the wing is going to be unstoppable.
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7/2/2010  8:23 AM
iSergio wrote:I'm all for Amare Stoudemire. Like Fish keeps reminding us, he was the BEST player in the entire league the second half of the season. He has injury history but he's been completely healthy the last few years. He's only 27 years old too. I just hope Mike D'Antoni doesn't view him as the Center. We will need to acquire a Robin Lopez-type Center and slide STAT to the 4. But if our Plan A comes true, the pick and roll with LeBron James and STAT with Danilo Gallinari on the wing is going to be unstoppable.
you can stick him next to Earl Barron for parts of the game but if you know MDA his offense here is your starting lineup:
PG Douglas
SG Chandler
SF GAllo
PF Lebron
C Amare
bench: Barron, Walker, Rautins, Fields

You have guys who are from 6'7 to 6'10 at every position aside from PG. Every guy can shoot, pass, rebound, spot up, get steals, push the ball

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7/2/2010  8:51 AM
fishmike wrote:
iSergio wrote:I'm all for Amare Stoudemire. Like Fish keeps reminding us, he was the BEST player in the entire league the second half of the season. He has injury history but he's been completely healthy the last few years. He's only 27 years old too. I just hope Mike D'Antoni doesn't view him as the Center. We will need to acquire a Robin Lopez-type Center and slide STAT to the 4. But if our Plan A comes true, the pick and roll with LeBron James and STAT with Danilo Gallinari on the wing is going to be unstoppable.
you can stick him next to Earl Barron for parts of the game but if you know MDA his offense here is your starting lineup:
PG Douglas
SG Chandler
SF GAllo
PF Lebron
C Amare
bench: Barron, Walker, Rautins, Fields

You have guys who are from 6'7 to 6'10 at every position aside from PG. Every guy can shoot, pass, rebound, spot up, get steals, push the ball

that is a great group- but I worry about rebounds- they do matter, especially in crunch time, and as talented as they are, I see them getting pushed around much like the Celts did at times to the Lakers.

And I just worry that with that kind of line up, MDA's defensive strategy will be to switch on everything, and our defense will be swiss cheese style. Yes, solid defenders, but when the mind set is switch, I think you lose some accountability.

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7/2/2010  8:59 AM
Stoudemire's injury history scares the crap out of me. And I don't think he's a center in the East.

LeBron or Wade better be teaming up with him.

If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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7/2/2010  9:10 AM
islesfan wrote:Stoudemire's injury history scares the crap out of me. And I don't think he's a center in the East.

LeBron or Wade better be teaming up with him.

Realistically though, who else are centers in the East? Howard, Bogut, Lopez...?

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7/2/2010  9:11 AM
islesfan wrote:Stoudemire's injury history scares the crap out of me. And I don't think he's a center in the East.

LeBron or Wade better be teaming up with him.

There is no "perfect" player but one guy is pretty close. Amare is only the bait we need to get him. The guy played the entire season and should be able to produce for the next 3-4 years at least. It's not like Bosh can never get injured.

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7/2/2010  9:20 AM
martin wrote:
islesfan wrote:Stoudemire's injury history scares the crap out of me. And I don't think he's a center in the East.

LeBron or Wade better be teaming up with him.

Realistically though, who else are centers in the East? Howard, Bogut, Lopez...?

Any big body really. I'm not talking about the caliber of the big men necessarily. Just the pounding that he's going to have to go through every night. Playing in the East will take it's toll on him, regardless of being in D'Antoni's system.

If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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7/2/2010  9:23 AM
loweyecue wrote:
islesfan wrote:Stoudemire's injury history scares the crap out of me. And I don't think he's a center in the East.

LeBron or Wade better be teaming up with him.

There is no "perfect" player but one guy is pretty close. Amare is only the bait we need to get him. The guy played the entire season and should be able to produce for the next 3-4 years at least. It's not like Bosh can never get injured.

That's what I'm afraid of. That we desperately need him as bait that we threw all caution to the wind and offered him a max contract. I just think that injuries are inevitable with him and playing in the East will very likely exacerbate that. A max deal would be 5 years. If we only get 3 out of him it will be a very bad deal.

If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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7/2/2010  9:26 AM
Listen, if signing Stoudemire is what it's going to take to get LeBron, then obviously it has to be done. I just hope when the dust settles, Stoudemire isn't going to be the main attraction on that dais holding up a new Knicks jersey.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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7/2/2010  9:26 AM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
iSergio wrote:I'm all for Amare Stoudemire. Like Fish keeps reminding us, he was the BEST player in the entire league the second half of the season. He has injury history but he's been completely healthy the last few years. He's only 27 years old too. I just hope Mike D'Antoni doesn't view him as the Center. We will need to acquire a Robin Lopez-type Center and slide STAT to the 4. But if our Plan A comes true, the pick and roll with LeBron James and STAT with Danilo Gallinari on the wing is going to be unstoppable.
you can stick him next to Earl Barron for parts of the game but if you know MDA his offense here is your starting lineup:
PG Douglas
SG Chandler
SF GAllo
PF Lebron
C Amare
bench: Barron, Walker, Rautins, Fields

You have guys who are from 6'7 to 6'10 at every position aside from PG. Every guy can shoot, pass, rebound, spot up, get steals, push the ball

that is a great group- but I worry about rebounds- they do matter, especially in crunch time, and as talented as they are, I see them getting pushed around much like the Celts did at times to the Lakers.

And I just worry that with that kind of line up, MDA's defensive strategy will be to switch on everything, and our defense will be swiss cheese style. Yes, solid defenders, but when the mind set is switch, I think you lose some accountability.

I agree with you iSergio. I don't think you take the best SF in the game and make him a PF... that's just giving up a strategic advantage. I could see letting him run point from time to time, based upon defensive assignments, though. I think you can commit to a fast paced offense will still having some size at the Center position. I hope that Jerome Jordan can be productive off the bench.

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7/2/2010  9:28 AM
islesfan wrote:
martin wrote:
islesfan wrote:Stoudemire's injury history scares the crap out of me. And I don't think he's a center in the East.

LeBron or Wade better be teaming up with him.

Realistically though, who else are centers in the East? Howard, Bogut, Lopez...?

Any big body really. I'm not talking about the caliber of the big men necessarily. Just the pounding that he's going to have to go through every night. Playing in the East will take it's toll on him, regardless of being in D'Antoni's system.

I think Earl Barron showed he could be a guy who could give you 20 good minutes a night of banging and boarding.

Howard is a guy who wears everyone down. Bogut was all NBA before he got hurt. After that its weak. Lopez is big but slower than a turtle and doesnt push anyone around. Amare is bigger than Horford. Perkins has a big body.

The 'true' MDA line up would be like this:
pg Douglas
sg Chandler
sf Gallo
pf Lebron
c Amare
you have a PG and 4 guys who are 6'7 or bigger and each one can shoot, rebound, play some defense, handle the ball, pass and shoot some more.

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