Vmart wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Vmart wrote:If LeBron is coming here for championships than he will not want Callipari. Callipari wins the knicks nothing and LeBron is just asking for another Cavs situation. Besides I think MDA deserves a chance to coach. He put his time into the Knicks when everyone knew they would suck. He put his record on the line and took on losing he deserves an opportunity to coach a talented team. If after a few years nothing is accomplished than we can consider getting another coach. We can't continue this idiotic coaching carousel that we have become so accustomed to.

no offense, hes getting paid $$$. so dealing with a bad team isnt a credit. he knew what he was signing up for and has gotten some nice coin for 2 years.

It is a credit, yes he knew what he was signing on for. And that in my opinion should be credited. You think Phil Jackson would have taken the job under those circumstances? I highly doubt it. MDA signed up for 2010 and its here he sould be given a chance to coach the 2010 roster.

and it sure seems like he will be here. i just dont see why he should be given a + for the past 2 years. jackson wouldnt have taken the job, that doesnt mean mike should be given anything extra. like i said, its not like he went unpaid while waiting for the roster to turn over or was bait/switched by walsh. he is a highly paid coach for 2 years here, not just starting in 2010.

BRIGGS wrote:League sources said Sunday that noted NBA power broker William Wesley continues to work back channels to sell John Calipari and James as a package deal to franchises such as the Bulls, Nets and Clippers with coaching vacancies and salary cap room.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5194333...

I think its a bit much to think that William Wesley is in control of LeBron's and Cal's destination...Wasn't Cal a less than average coach in the NBA???...I know doesn't matter, we are the Knicks and we starphuck...

Vmart wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Vmart wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Vmart wrote:If LeBron is coming here for championships than he will not want Callipari. Callipari wins the knicks nothing and LeBron is just asking for another Cavs situation. Besides I think MDA deserves a chance to coach. He put his time into the Knicks when everyone knew they would suck. He put his record on the line and took on losing he deserves an opportunity to coach a talented team. If after a few years nothing is accomplished than we can consider getting another coach. We can't continue this idiotic coaching carousel that we have become so accustomed to.

no offense, hes getting paid $$$. so dealing with a bad team isnt a credit. he knew what he was signing up for and has gotten some nice coin for 2 years.

It is a credit, yes he knew what he was signing on for. And that in my opinion should be credited. You think Phil Jackson would have taken the job under those circumstances? I highly doubt it. MDA signed up for 2010 and its here he sould be given a chance to coach the 2010 roster.

and it sure seems like he will be here. i just dont see why he should be given a + for the past 2 years. jackson wouldnt have taken the job, that doesnt mean mike should be given anything extra. like i said, its not like he went unpaid while waiting for the roster to turn over or was bait/switched by walsh. he is a highly paid coach for 2 years here, not just starting in 2010.

No one is giving MDA an A. I would give him a B at best. There are things he could have done better like develop Douglas more. Could have yanked Duhon sooner. He did the best he could with the roster. I don't know what winning a few extra games with Larry Hughes or with Harrington would have done for the team, his roster was one of mercenaries. To his credit he got Gallo and Chandler going for the most part that is what everyone should have been looking at. What I saw was something good on the part of Gallo, Chandler and Douglas They showed flashes of being very good defensive players. You can't really teach team defense with a roster that you know isn't going to be together, the players knew what it was about and quite frankly some of the players were terrible on the defensive side because they knew they were out of here they weren't gonna give 100% effort on the defense.

Give MDA a chance with a good roster get him LeBron and Bosh and next year the Knicks will be in the ECF.

i hate to say it, even mike brown could get to ecf with lbj+bosh. lbj shows up, unfair or not, the expectations are gonna be more than ecf.

sidsanders wrote:

Vmart wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Vmart wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Vmart wrote:If LeBron is coming here for championships than he will not want Callipari. Callipari wins the knicks nothing and LeBron is just asking for another Cavs situation. Besides I think MDA deserves a chance to coach. He put his time into the Knicks when everyone knew they would suck. He put his record on the line and took on losing he deserves an opportunity to coach a talented team. If after a few years nothing is accomplished than we can consider getting another coach. We can't continue this idiotic coaching carousel that we have become so accustomed to.

no offense, hes getting paid $$$. so dealing with a bad team isnt a credit. he knew what he was signing up for and has gotten some nice coin for 2 years.

It is a credit, yes he knew what he was signing on for. And that in my opinion should be credited. You think Phil Jackson would have taken the job under those circumstances? I highly doubt it. MDA signed up for 2010 and its here he sould be given a chance to coach the 2010 roster.

and it sure seems like he will be here. i just dont see why he should be given a + for the past 2 years. jackson wouldnt have taken the job, that doesnt mean mike should be given anything extra. like i said, its not like he went unpaid while waiting for the roster to turn over or was bait/switched by walsh. he is a highly paid coach for 2 years here, not just starting in 2010.

No one is giving MDA an A. I would give him a B at best. There are things he could have done better like develop Douglas more. Could have yanked Duhon sooner. He did the best he could with the roster. I don't know what winning a few extra games with Larry Hughes or with Harrington would have done for the team, his roster was one of mercenaries. To his credit he got Gallo and Chandler going for the most part that is what everyone should have been looking at. What I saw was something good on the part of Gallo, Chandler and Douglas They showed flashes of being very good defensive players. You can't really teach team defense with a roster that you know isn't going to be together, the players knew what it was about and quite frankly some of the players were terrible on the defensive side because they knew they were out of here they weren't gonna give 100% effort on the defense.

Give MDA a chance with a good roster get him LeBron and Bosh and next year the Knicks will be in the ECF.

i hate to say it, even mike brown could get to ecf with lbj+bosh. lbj shows up, unfair or not, the expectations are gonna be more than ecf.

I'm saying ECF because that will be guaranteed. I think JVG said it best once you get that far your only going to see very good teams and anything can happen. Coaches get you that far and superstars get the job done after that point.

crzymdups wrote:calipari is a sleaze. no way.

if lbj reaaally wants this guy, perhaps lbj must be called on this... what the heck could he be thinking if he really wants cal?

Allanfan20 wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

Vmart wrote:If LeBron is coming here for championships than he will not want Callipari. Callipari wins the knicks nothing and LeBron is just asking for another Cavs situation. Besides I think MDA deserves a chance to coach. He put his time into the Knicks when everyone knew they would suck. He put his record on the line and took on losing he deserves an opportunity to coach a talented team. If after a few years nothing is accomplished than we can consider getting another coach. We can't continue this idiotic coaching carousel that we have become so accustomed to.

no offense, hes getting paid $$$. so dealing with a bad team isnt a credit. he knew what he was signing up for and has gotten some nice coin for 2 years.

It doesn't matter, I think you and I and he and Walsh and everyone here knew perfectly well that this was about the Summer about 2010. NOT what the record for the past couple of years would be. We brought MDA in to lure in and coach free agents. Whether it was a good decision, is a different story, but it's hard to kill Mike. He did the best he could with the roster, IMO.

why should he get "credit" for it then? its not like he was working for free until 2010-11. he was compensated for the past 2 years at a decent rate. is it unreasonable for folks to question certain aspects of the past 2 years because mike was dealt a bad hand? im not one that figures he is gonna be fired, or should be. i havent seen the great coach many seem to see yet. we shall see what happens...

I wasn't giving him credit. I was saying that the last two years don't matter because all that did matter was Summer of 2010. Nothing more or less. Mike was brought in to coach a free agent and lure them in. His coaching the past two years is irrelevant. Sorry, but it's true. It's not something to give him credit for. It's just what the situation is.

vmart was givin out credit. i do think the last 2 years could have had value. i cant give the coaches AND FO a pass for that.

FO -- finding any parts that have some guts with some talent plus cheap. walsh/FO may have been able to find some young guys for mike to see whos got some nutz to stick around (maybe they did). or get the existing younger guys up to speed faster. too bad if they didnt "earn" it, you gotta play em since these were "lost years" already.