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Childs2Dudley
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4/29/2010  10:53 PM
misterearl wrote:Buy the pick, leave the cannoli

Call Isiah for his input on the selection at 24

Get a second opinion from scout Ben Jobe

Play Earl Barron until an upgrade arrives

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4/30/2010  12:56 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
misterearl wrote:Buy the pick, leave the cannoli

Call Isiah for his input on the selection at 24

Get a second opinion from scout Ben Jobe

Play Earl Barron until an upgrade arrives

some $$$ posts have me rolling tonight, well done

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4/30/2010  5:49 AM
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Q. loweyecue - So you guys value the 24th pick over Joe Johnson at max?

A. Not "you guys" but you can put me in the "No to Joe Johnson" crew

Keep David Lee, who was the 30th pick by Zeke

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Cosmic
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4/30/2010  7:31 AM
BRIGGS wrote:

A 1mm $ slot isnt changing FA.

Last years 25 was Rodrigue Beaubois. Now wouldn't that be worth it?

THe point I am trying to make is we're not rebuilding with late first round picks.
The point I am trying to make is we already have five-seven young players who need to be groomed...and adding more complicates that. Why would you draft yet another young player or two just to have them sit on the bench and not play? They can't play. We already have five young players in our rotation and we will be adding at least two veteran players this year. So where do these new kids play? They don't.

The only reason you do it is to acquire an asset you have every intent on using in a trade. Be it the player you pick with that #24, or if by chance that player is better than say Chandler and then it's Chandler you trade (I think he's gone anyway in a trade).

You don't grab the #24 and other picks and add them to this roster. That's simply NOT the route the team is going. We have our young core. We have to develop them. We have to add a couple of veterans to them. Once we do there is zero reason to keep adding more and more kids.

It will create a log jam and will create wasted youth who won't see the light of day, because, we already have all the minutes used up with our top five young guys.

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4/30/2010  8:24 AM
Cosmic wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:

A 1mm $ slot isnt changing FA.

Last years 25 was Rodrigue Beaubois. Now wouldn't that be worth it?

THe point I am trying to make is we're not rebuilding with late first round picks.
The point I am trying to make is we already have five-seven young players who need to be groomed...and adding more complicates that. Why would you draft yet another young player or two just to have them sit on the bench and not play? They can't play. We already have five young players in our rotation and we will be adding at least two veteran players this year. So where do these new kids play? They don't.

The only reason you do it is to acquire an asset you have every intent on using in a trade. Be it the player you pick with that #24, or if by chance that player is better than say Chandler and then it's Chandler you trade (I think he's gone anyway in a trade).

You don't grab the #24 and other picks and add them to this roster. That's simply NOT the route the team is going. We have our young core. We have to develop them. We have to add a couple of veterans to them. Once we do there is zero reason to keep adding more and more kids.

It will create a log jam and will create wasted youth who won't see the light of day, because, we already have all the minutes used up with our top five young guys.

Cosmic did you catch Rodrigue Beaubois last night?

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4/30/2010  9:48 AM
But if you can put a 7'1 block machine like Alabi next to a rebound machine like DLee and come out with enough money to sign LBJ and upgrade other positions with less than max ..
Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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4/30/2010  10:15 AM
Olbrannon wrote:But if you can put a 7'1 block machine like Alabi next to a rebound machine like DLee and come out with enough money to sign LBJ and upgrade other positions with less than max ..

It's kind of weird that 40 people would want the pick--it makes sense--but only Comsic would not want it. Not breaking his cahones but I don't think he watches too much basketball. No matter what happens in FA we need help even in the best case scenario.

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4/30/2010  7:22 PM
(Puts on GM hat)

7' defensive center with that first round pick please. Keep Lee on a 4 year. 8, 10, 12, 14 with bonuses for the playoffs.
We have options to pick up on the last two years. Take Landesburg. Give Greavis or a Linn a shot if available.

Use money wisely in FA market.

That my friends would be plan C? But you gotta spend the base salary anyway and at pick 24 you can find gems, polish them.
Hope. ;-)

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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5/1/2010  2:00 AM
Cosmic wrote:
You don't grab the #24 and other picks and add them to this roster. That's simply NOT the route the team is going. We have our young core. We have to develop them. We have to add a couple of veterans to them. Once we do there is zero reason to keep adding more and more kids.

It will create a log jam and will create wasted youth who won't see the light of day, because, we already have all the minutes used up with our top five young guys.

Unfortunately, our "young core" does not include a young center prospect. If you can get a 7' project at #24- a guy who does one thing well (O or D), who can improve in the next few years, why not take a shot at him? You get what you can through free agency, but you still need some bodies on the bench. Or what about choosing an overseas player who wants to come out but has a few years on his contract- you can draft him, let him develop two more years overseas, and then pick him up in a couple of years. (How does this affect our cap if he stays overseas? ...Not a cap/contract expert- don't know the answer to that one.)

I just don't see how this would be objectionable to you. You are not putting all your $$ on rebuilding through the draft, but you are planting a few seeds for the future.

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5/1/2010  8:48 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:

A 1mm $ slot isnt changing FA.

Last years 25 was Rodrigue Beaubois. Now wouldn't that be worth it?

THe point I am trying to make is we're not rebuilding with late first round picks.
The point I am trying to make is we already have five-seven young players who need to be groomed...and adding more complicates that. Why would you draft yet another young player or two just to have them sit on the bench and not play? They can't play. We already have five young players in our rotation and we will be adding at least two veteran players this year. So where do these new kids play? They don't.

The only reason you do it is to acquire an asset you have every intent on using in a trade. Be it the player you pick with that #24, or if by chance that player is better than say Chandler and then it's Chandler you trade (I think he's gone anyway in a trade).

You don't grab the #24 and other picks and add them to this roster. That's simply NOT the route the team is going. We have our young core. We have to develop them. We have to add a couple of veterans to them. Once we do there is zero reason to keep adding more and more kids.

It will create a log jam and will create wasted youth who won't see the light of day, because, we already have all the minutes used up with our top five young guys.

Cosmic did you catch Rodrigue Beaubois last night?

No, but, I am familiar in how well he has played. It still doesn't change my mind about trying to grab all these late rounders and try to build a team out of them.

RB can do that on a great Mavs team. Here? He'd be another player who isn't good enough to change our 30 win ways around. I think that very fact is lost on some.

And again I feel we have enough good young players that still need developing that adding to that would be a detriment for all.

Also, again, we're not adding all these prospects in lieu of adding veteran talent. Once you have the veteran talent in place and have a team identity then you seek to add these types of guys to fill out a roster. Not before.

Also, you again cannot in any way assume you're simply going to score with that pick. It doesn't happen as frequently as you seem to be led to believe.

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5/1/2010  10:12 AM
Cosmic wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:

A 1mm $ slot isnt changing FA.

Last years 25 was Rodrigue Beaubois. Now wouldn't that be worth it?

THe point I am trying to make is we're not rebuilding with late first round picks.
The point I am trying to make is we already have five-seven young players who need to be groomed...and adding more complicates that. Why would you draft yet another young player or two just to have them sit on the bench and not play? They can't play. We already have five young players in our rotation and we will be adding at least two veteran players this year. So where do these new kids play? They don't.

The only reason you do it is to acquire an asset you have every intent on using in a trade. Be it the player you pick with that #24, or if by chance that player is better than say Chandler and then it's Chandler you trade (I think he's gone anyway in a trade).

You don't grab the #24 and other picks and add them to this roster. That's simply NOT the route the team is going. We have our young core. We have to develop them. We have to add a couple of veterans to them. Once we do there is zero reason to keep adding more and more kids.

It will create a log jam and will create wasted youth who won't see the light of day, because, we already have all the minutes used up with our top five young guys.

Cosmic did you catch Rodrigue Beaubois last night?

No, but, I am familiar in how well he has played. It still doesn't change my mind about trying to grab all these late rounders and try to build a team out of them.

RB can do that on a great Mavs team. Here? He'd be another player who isn't good enough to change our 30 win ways around. I think that very fact is lost on some.

And again I feel we have enough good young players that still need developing that adding to that would be a detriment for all.

Also, again, we're not adding all these prospects in lieu of adding veteran talent. Once you have the veteran talent in place and have a team identity then you seek to add these types of guys to fill out a roster. Not before.

Also, you again cannot in any way assume you're simply going to score with that pick. It doesn't happen as frequently as you seem to be led to believe.

Do you think ti's possible that the 40 people who might want the pick for simply cash might just be on to something and you might just be off? What exactly hurts the team?

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