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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/16/2010 8:26 PM
Didn't we go over this before? When compared with Dirk after the same amount of games, Gallo is on a similar track of progress. Instead of celebrating the fact that his back issue didn't stop him from playing until the last game of the season, which many predicted he'd never see, we have to diminish his progress and toughness. The kid didn't back down from the BEST players in the league and when pushed he pushed back. He never tried to run from a challenge either and overall he's said he wants to be the best. When was the last time we have a young player who talked like that?
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
4/17/2010 12:08 AM LAST EDITED: 4/17/2010 12:10 AM
playa2 wrote:Bippity10 wrote:playa2 wrote:Pharzeone wrote:I understand what you are saying but this is where I think you missed the point about the front office. We are still in need of a center or the very least a player that is capable of post defense or basically post play which what Lopez and Randolph brings. Now if we are talking about Gallo playing the PF or C spot then I say right on. But if we are still talking about Gallo guarding point guards and taking a lot of three pointers then what's the point. The front office added a wing player on a team full of wing players that needed help on the other side of the ball and in the paint. Now we hope to add another wing player in addition to Gallo this off season. Maybe we get a Bosh also or maybe we don't. My take on it is that front office fail to add talent to necessary positions. Maybe there is something wrong with me because I'm tired of the one game scenarios with my players especially at the end of the season. And down the road talk of maybe, perhaps... when I'm looking at other teams not having to wait that long. Just my take.
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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Bippity10
Posts: 13999 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2004 Member: #574 |
4/17/2010 10:51 AM LAST EDITED: 4/17/2010 10:54 AM
playa2 wrote:Bippity10 wrote:playa2 wrote:Pharzeone wrote:I understand what you are saying but this is where I think you missed the point about the front office. We are still in need of a center or the very least a player that is capable of post defense or basically post play which what Lopez and Randolph brings. Now if we are talking about Gallo playing the PF or C spot then I say right on. But if we are still talking about Gallo guarding point guards and taking a lot of three pointers then what's the point. The front office added a wing player on a team full of wing players that needed help on the other side of the ball and in the paint. Now we hope to add another wing player in addition to Gallo this off season. Maybe we get a Bosh also or maybe we don't. My take on it is that front office fail to add talent to necessary positions. Maybe there is something wrong with me because I'm tired of the one game scenarios with my players especially at the end of the season. And down the road talk of maybe, perhaps... when I'm looking at other teams not having to wait that long. Just my take. Like I said, provacative but no substance. Let's say they drafted him because he had brown hair, I could care less, the guy can play. As a Knick fan, that means more to me then why he was drafted, what color he is, what he looks like, what language he speaks, who he knew etc. That periphery stuff seems important to you. As for the we needed a PG, Center etc. There is no one on this roster right now besides David Lee(if he is here) that is guaranteed a starting spot next year. Two years ago, there was no one. In a scenario like that you draft based on talent, not on need. Let'say at 39 a Lebron talent drops to us. Do we pass on him because we need a center. No of course not. When your team stinks you increase your talent level, you don't draft based on need. YOu don't build on top of crap, you build with a new core. That's the mistake we made for almost 10 years. Right now our core is Gallinari, Chandler, Douglas and possibly Lee and Walker. When I look at that core I think this is the one year where a SF/SG is not needed, and that's only because of the addition of Walker. Without him, I would still be okay with the drafting of a talented wing/shooter. I just hope that people will like me
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
4/17/2010 12:06 PM
tkf wrote:playa2 wrote:Bippity10 wrote:playa2 wrote:Pharzeone wrote:I understand what you are saying but this is where I think you missed the point about the front office. We are still in need of a center or the very least a player that is capable of post defense or basically post play which what Lopez and Randolph brings. Now if we are talking about Gallo playing the PF or C spot then I say right on. But if we are still talking about Gallo guarding point guards and taking a lot of three pointers then what's the point. The front office added a wing player on a team full of wing players that needed help on the other side of the ball and in the paint. Now we hope to add another wing player in addition to Gallo this off season. Maybe we get a Bosh also or maybe we don't. My take on it is that front office fail to add talent to necessary positions. Maybe there is something wrong with me because I'm tired of the one game scenarios with my players especially at the end of the season. And down the road talk of maybe, perhaps... when I'm looking at other teams not having to wait that long. Just my take. Listen to you Terry, we are talking what 10 yrs ago ? Prodson went to jail and Ice who knows he could have went their too. The franchise judgment's has always been questioned. Until they produce consistently with the choices they make all we will get is entertainment with no substance . (Championships)
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/17/2010 1:48 PM
Well this is finally a chance to see if DW and MDA can put something together that will form the basis for a title contender. I'm not expecting everything to be resolved in one off season. It's not realistic. However we can really set this franchise up for future success if we can add to the core we have so far. Gallo is a worthy #6 pick and has shown that he can produce at a good level so far plus he's got a ton of upside. Every draft you have a shot to make a great pick or a bad one, but it's really hard to guarantee any of that. Randolph could very well implode and never reach his full potential as can any draft pick. We seem to have done well with our picks, so i'm not gonna bash the management for what they've done. I think they've done a pretty good job drafting overall.
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
4/17/2010 6:47 PM
playa2 wrote:tkf wrote:playa2 wrote:Bippity10 wrote:playa2 wrote:Pharzeone wrote:I understand what you are saying but this is where I think you missed the point about the front office. We are still in need of a center or the very least a player that is capable of post defense or basically post play which what Lopez and Randolph brings. Now if we are talking about Gallo playing the PF or C spot then I say right on. But if we are still talking about Gallo guarding point guards and taking a lot of three pointers then what's the point. The front office added a wing player on a team full of wing players that needed help on the other side of the ball and in the paint. Now we hope to add another wing player in addition to Gallo this off season. Maybe we get a Bosh also or maybe we don't. My take on it is that front office fail to add talent to necessary positions. Maybe there is something wrong with me because I'm tired of the one game scenarios with my players especially at the end of the season. And down the road talk of maybe, perhaps... when I'm looking at other teams not having to wait that long. Just my take. Prodson and Ice, no matter where they are, were still on the money bro... Anyway, this franchise is under new management, management that has outline a plan and stuck to it... you say they will always be questioned, but you are not questioning judgement, you are questioning motives... gallo has proven to be a good player and pick, but you question why he was picked, and not based on talent, but based on race, or favors. come on.. if the knicks had taken the player"you" wanted, would they still be "judged" in this manner by you? I doubt it.. Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
4/17/2010 8:50 PM
Pharzeone wrote:fishmike wrote:one of my big knocks on AR has been his frame. Who else in the league is built like him? Tayshaun Prince. Who else? I dont see that body having a long fruitful career unless he stays out on the perimeter. His muscle mass makes Jared Jeffries look like Shaq. Thank You man for telling these cats wassup !
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
4/17/2010 8:52 PM LAST EDITED: 4/17/2010 8:52 PM
Pharzeone wrote:I understand what you are saying but this is where I think you missed the point about the front office. We are still in need of a center or the very least a player that is capable of post defense or basically post play which what Lopez and Randolph brings. Now if we are talking about Gallo playing the PF or C spot then I say right on. But if we are still talking about Gallo guarding point guards and taking a lot of three pointers then what's the point. The front office added a wing player on a team full of wing players that needed help on the other side of the ball and in the paint. Now we hope to add another wing player in addition to Gallo this off season. Maybe we get a Bosh also or maybe we don't. My take on it is that front office fail to add talent to necessary positions. Maybe there is something wrong with me because I'm tired of the one game scenarios with my players especially at the end of the season. And down the road talk of maybe, perhaps... when I'm looking at other teams not having to wait that long. Just my take. Notice how no one questioned what you said, they just came at me WITH FALSE ACCUSATIONS. LOL
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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loweyecue
Posts: 27468 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 11/20/2005 Member: #1037 |
4/17/2010 9:21 PM
What I routinely here from people who criticize Gallo is their incessant griping against how he got picked at 8 in a strong draft. for some reason these people have made up their minds to hold that against Gallo like it was his fault he got picked where he did. No matter how well Gallo plays people are more interested in comparing n number of other players availble at the time. This in a league where Kobe Bryant was picked at 22.
If you all you can do is compare him with your own fantasy pick and hold it against him go ahead and knock yourself out. Gallo has proved to be a two way player who is developing very nicely. These same people that bitch about him and by extension MDA and Walsh can never stop wanting to build through the draft. But they can't find it in them to even post a single sentence in support of the draft pick that is trying his best to make an impact on the team. Sad, very sad. TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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ramtour420
Posts: 26572 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 3/19/2007 Member: #1388 Russian Federation |
4/17/2010 9:51 PM
loweyecue wrote:What I routinely here from people who criticize Gallo is their incessant griping against how he got picked at 8 in a strong draft. for some reason these people have made up their minds to hold that against Gallo like it was his fault he got picked where he did. No matter how well Gallo plays people are more interested in comparing n number of other players availble at the time. This in a league where Kobe Bryant was picked at 22. +1 Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
4/18/2010 8:12 PM
loweyecue wrote:What I routinely here from people who criticize Gallo is their incessant griping against how he got picked at 8 in a strong draft. for some reason these people have made up their minds to hold that against Gallo like it was his fault he got picked where he did. No matter how well Gallo plays people are more interested in comparing n number of other players availble at the time. This in a league where Kobe Bryant was picked at 22.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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markvmc
Posts: 22004 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2008 Member: #1797 |
4/18/2010 9:36 PM
OK. What Loweyecue said with #13 subbed in for #22.
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Bippity10
Posts: 13999 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2004 Member: #574 |
4/19/2010 10:55 AM
playa2 wrote:Pharzeone wrote:I understand what you are saying but this is where I think you missed the point about the front office. We are still in need of a center or the very least a player that is capable of post defense or basically post play which what Lopez and Randolph brings. Now if we are talking about Gallo playing the PF or C spot then I say right on. But if we are still talking about Gallo guarding point guards and taking a lot of three pointers then what's the point. The front office added a wing player on a team full of wing players that needed help on the other side of the ball and in the paint. Now we hope to add another wing player in addition to Gallo this off season. Maybe we get a Bosh also or maybe we don't. My take on it is that front office fail to add talent to necessary positions. Maybe there is something wrong with me because I'm tired of the one game scenarios with my players especially at the end of the season. And down the road talk of maybe, perhaps... when I'm looking at other teams not having to wait that long. Just my take. So once again, your beef is with management and not with the player. But like we did with Allan Houston we hold a grudge against hte player because we didn't get what we want. When we take the front office out of the equation. When we forget about all the guys we wish we had and cry about daily and just focus on the player and his skills, you can see the guy developing right in front of our eyes. I just hope that people will like me
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