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JesseDark
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4/7/2010  12:14 AM
K22 wrote:He shouldn't be wearing Bernard King's number. That should be up in the rafters.

That was my first thought when I saw the guy too. My second was who knew playing with a legitamite center would make a difference.
I am sure some back handed comment is coming from D'antoni.

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4/7/2010  12:30 AM
MDA has never said he's against playing a C. He's against playing a C who can't really play. Barron is doing what Darko should've done. PLAY GOOD, PLAY HARD! The only thing holding Darko back was Darko. Hill is a different case cuz he was a rook, but even in his case you have earn PT with great effort. Playing Hill more may have helped him to get more comfortable, but he wasn't gonna be ready to get starter minutes. We needed good PG and C play early in the year and maybe things would've been different. It's not enough to just have a big body out there. That big body has to actually contribute to help the team win. The thing is this team wasn't built to win, but to be cap friendly at the end of the year.

I hope Barron finds more success and maybe gets a shot to be here next camp. We're gonna need cheap bench players.

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4/7/2010  1:30 AM
every time u bring up the "you have to earn playing time" argument you prove that MDA's rotations made no sense this season when guys like Bender were inserted directly into the rotation.
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4/7/2010  5:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/7/2010  5:49 AM
I remember when Earl Barron played for Miami. He showed some game but could not stick. Is this guy for real or is this the usual first few games bump up as we saw with Bender and Walker? It would be great if he could stick as a backup ceter. We have no young center prospects and no draft first round pick, so finding a gem in the D-league is a must.
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4/7/2010  7:51 AM
Caught some of last night's game. Barron looked pretty good out there. Not sure what you can take from it in regards to the long term but he was pretty solid and active. He also looked quite polished and smooth but he has been around for a while even if it's the D-League versus say a raw rookie coming in.

Bottom line I can't think why anyone wouldn't like what they saw last night from him. He showed more promise than Darko, Bender, and Hill combined. Then again he is 28, has played for quite some time regardless of league, and looked to be in terrific shape. So what his ceiling is...who knows. We might have just witnessed his career game. Still, good for him, and good for us if he can keep it up. Given our plan for next year it'd be nice to find a guy who can play like this on the cheap to help round out the roster. At 28 a player can give you a solid 5 years of top level play - yet there are reasons why he has stuck in the NBA in the past. Maybe this is his break. I guess it's just something to watch over the final few games and expect him back in camp maybe.

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4/7/2010  8:12 AM
Posting and Toasting Nailed it

The Aristocrat

"Barron's bonerific performance was truly one for the ages. "The Aristocrat" has flaws- he hasn't shown anything in the post and isn't especially athletic- but played brilliantly to his strengths. Barron's got a luscious mid-range stroke (which I don't really recall from his days in Miami) and a nose for the ball, and he made good use of those skills in his extended minutes. He repeatedly rolled off screens for confident jumpers and spent the rest of his time hustling for scrappy rebounds. And I'm not talking cute-scrappy like Scrappy Doo. This was scrappiness to the tune of 8 offensive rebounds and some splendid loose-ball saves. Earl is a monarch among men."

(end of quote)

The most impressive thing, other than it was the quality front line of the despised Celtics, was Barrons endurance and energy.

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4/7/2010  8:34 AM
when advanced scouting gets guys like Earl you really dont need draft picks.
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4/7/2010  8:39 AM
This guy may never turn into anything(I admittedly no nothing about him). But it's refreshing to watch guys like Barron and Lee and Gallo and Walker and Sergio and Giddens and Chandler and Douglas. Guys that actually play hard every night. They may throw in a stinker from time to time. They may get down on themselves sometiems. But they play hard. Barron is a classic example of what can happen if you are motivated to play. Eddie Curry is a classic example of what can happen if you are not motivated. Who knows what the future will hold, but what I do know is that the culture of entitlement and laziness that we needed to get rid of before we could grow has been eliminated.
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4/7/2010  8:40 AM
fishmike wrote:when advanced scouting gets guys like Earl you really dont need draft picks.

Man that sounds like it saying getting Randolph was like having two first round picks.

But you have to give knicks props. Barron appears to be a good find. Given the fact that pat Riley played him gives me confidence the kid can play.

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4/7/2010  9:57 AM
bippity - Earl Barron has already turned into something. A good reason not to miss Al Harrington.
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4/7/2010  10:15 AM
So happy for players like Earl Barron who play every second like it's their last. While human garbage like Eddy Curry eats cheese burgers on the bench making $10M. This world is truly unfair. But I really hope Barron makes the cut. As I stated yesterday, there is no reason why he couldn't be a 15 mpg backup next season behind Chris Bosh. He runs the floor, he can hit a J and he rotates very well on D.
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4/7/2010  2:13 PM
TheGame wrote:
fishmike wrote:when advanced scouting gets guys like Earl you really dont need draft picks.

Man that sounds like it saying getting Randolph was like having two first round picks.

But you have to give knicks props. Barron appears to be a good find. Given the fact that pat Riley played him gives me confidence the kid can play.

Randolph, Jackie Butler... we have had a couple of scrubs come through that get people pumped. I remember the drama when the Spurs signed Butler. Remember? All those posts about how great the Spurs scouts were, how the Knicks were idiots, how we let a stud prospect go, bla bla bla. Dude's workin at Sonic right now because he gets his taters for free.

phucks sakes

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4/7/2010  3:18 PM
fish.mike - you already know I was riding shotgun on the Jackie Butler Bandwagon... because I love a good story. Of course, The Duke (of Earl) may fade to 'bolivian just as Butler did. By contrast, there were so many different things the young man did right over the last two games that even you gotta crack a smile.

The Duke hit the mid range jumper and he drove the paint. He displayed agility and defensive mobility. The Duke hit the defensive AND offensive boards, he was energetic and he hit the open man like he knew the plays. Maybe it was the glow of playing in New York. Perhaps matching up with the Celtics was a motivator. Whatever it was, it was all good for 40 minutes. (Just win baby) Most important, it looked like he belonged.

Besides, I don't remember the dearly beloved Jackie Butler going for 17 and 18.

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4/7/2010  3:21 PM
Bippity10 wrote:This guy may never turn into anything(I admittedly no nothing about him). But it's refreshing to watch guys like Barron and Lee and Gallo and Walker and Sergio and Giddens and Chandler and Douglas. Guys that actually play hard every night. They may throw in a stinker from time to time. They may get down on themselves sometiems. But they play hard. Barron is a classic example of what can happen if you are motivated to play. Eddie Curry is a classic example of what can happen if you are not motivated. Who knows what the future will hold, but what I do know is that the culture of entitlement and laziness that we needed to get rid of before we could grow has been eliminated.

Well said Bip.. I hope you are right man!

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4/7/2010  3:23 PM
Belated Props to the JUNKMEIN, 2 April...

"Alright now. I'm telling you this guy is better than advertised. He's active around the basket and he'll be the first center we've had in ages that actually has the pride and the work ethic to stay in shape. And no, i'm not talking about the power forwards we've had standing in for the last 3 years. I'm making the call now, he'll stick and surprise because he's hungry and actually has some skill."

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4/7/2010  3:23 PM
I still think Jackie Butler can play. He didn't just play well because he was big- dude had a good touch and post skills.
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4/7/2010  5:07 PM
2008 Draft Express

Offense: Gets about a third of his touches in spot up situations, with another two fifths coming off of cuts and offensive rebounds. Displays a consistent midrange shooting stroke, which is without question his best offensive weapon. (the lost art of the mid range jumper is a nice compliment to a long-range bomber like Gallo) Takes some contested shots that he probably shouldn’t. (experience can fix that) Runs the pick and pop frequently. Proves to be a capable finisher at the rim as well. Works well off the ball, which helps him score a few easy baskets at the rim. Needs to do a better job absorbing contact. Lacks some toughness in that regard. (see the weight room) Doesn’t show much back to the basket game. Won’t put the ball on the floor very often. An average passer.

Defense: Doesn’t have the strength to maintain position on the block, and lacks the lateral quickness necessary to step out and defend players that like to face up in the post. Usually asked to defend the center position, but struggles as a weak-side defender. Has a hard time containing bigger, strong post players. Doesn’t show good discipline when contesting shots. Will reach over the top and get called for a lot of fouls. Decent rebounder, but nothing to write home about. (cough) Not a defensive playmaker.

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4/7/2010  5:42 PM
One thing about Barron - he can board. With him and Lee in the lineup, we outrebounded the Celtics easily. The Celtics are a good rebounding team.
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4/7/2010  8:48 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
TMS wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:In that highlight clip, almost all of his points were from an assist from Sergio. He was running and cutting to the basket. If we can have our guys follow this formula of actually running with Sergio, I think we can have a pretty good 1-2 punch in the PG department with TD and Sergio.

is it too early to call him Amare Lite?

In all seriousness, Baron reminds me a lot of Nazr Mohammed.

David Lee:

"I said on the bench that he plays like Antonio McDyess, a very, very good 15-foot jump shooter," Lee said. "He's a solid post player. Defensively he's strong and has a good basketball IQ."

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/7/2010  8:54 PM
i like what i saw last night, but u can't get overly excited over a journeyman callup from the D Leagues just yet... hopefully he can put up more games like that but i'll be happy if he can play like he did in his debut & be a good role player off the bench.
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