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If Cleveland gets Amare--2010 is done
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2/15/2010  7:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/15/2010  7:37 PM
If that is really the best offer the Suns have, it almost makes you think Donnie should step in and offer them Hughes, Hill, and Douglas for Amare....
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2/15/2010  8:07 PM
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/statuses/9162511449

Source close to Stoudemire says he's completely open to Cleveland, loves idea of playing with LBJ and has never indicated otherwise to Cavs.
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2/15/2010  8:19 PM
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Heat owner Micky Arison said he wouldn't part with forward Michael Beasley in any deal. The Heat are trying to entice the Suns with center Jermaine O'Neal's bloated $23 million expiring contract. So far, it hasn't worked.

i'm sure we'll have better luck next year w/the valuable expiring contracts of Jeffries & Curry.

The original quotes got twisted.

Heat Owner: We're Not Shopping Beasley
Sunday, February 14, 2010
Posted By The Baseline 4:21 PM

The Heat have been involved in trade discussions with several teams, but owner Micky Arison said that second-year player Michael Beasley has not been a part of the various proposals.
"We've never put him out there," Arison told The Miami Herald. "I know I've read about him being put out there. I can tell you this: We have not put him out there. The media has. We like Michael and see him as a part of our core going forward."

Arison didn't name specific deals he's discussed with other teams but said "there are a lot of interesting things going on." He also noted that if the Heat don't make a move now, they'll have flexibility over the summer, when they'll have several expiring contracts coming off the books.
According to reports, the Heat have had trade discussions with the Suns, Grizzlies, Rockets, Blazers, Bobcats, Kings and Celtics.

Source: http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Baseline/entry/view/55829/heat-owner-were-not-shopping-beasley

He implied they are not actively shopping Beasley that doesnt mean he will not be traded. We aren't shopping Jordan Hill either but if we see a deal we like he is gone.

Realistically they arent getting ANYONE for O'neal's expiring alone. Miami is falling out of the playoffs and could potentially lose Wade for nothing this summer. They are trying to get help for Wade NOW and the only asset they have is Beasley. Wade isnt going to wait around for Michael Beasley to develop.

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2/15/2010  8:27 PM
amare tweeting like he's going to cleveland:

http://twitter.com/Amareisreal/status/9163837602

I play very well with Shaq. I adverage more pts last year WITH him an played better D.You guys can stop saying we don't play well together.
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2/15/2010  8:31 PM
djsunyc wrote:amare tweeting like he's going to cleveland:

http://twitter.com/Amareisreal/status/9163837602

I play very well with Shaq. I adverage more pts last year WITH him an played better D.You guys can stop saying we don't play well together.

amare needs to take that max money and learn how to spell...

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2/15/2010  8:50 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
TMS wrote:
Heat owner Micky Arison said he wouldn't part with forward Michael Beasley in any deal. The Heat are trying to entice the Suns with center Jermaine O'Neal's bloated $23 million expiring contract. So far, it hasn't worked.

i'm sure we'll have better luck next year w/the valuable expiring contracts of Jeffries & Curry.

The original quotes got twisted.

Heat Owner: We're Not Shopping Beasley
Sunday, February 14, 2010
Posted By The Baseline 4:21 PM

The Heat have been involved in trade discussions with several teams, but owner Micky Arison said that second-year player Michael Beasley has not been a part of the various proposals.
"We've never put him out there," Arison told The Miami Herald. "I know I've read about him being put out there. I can tell you this: We have not put him out there. The media has. We like Michael and see him as a part of our core going forward."

Arison didn't name specific deals he's discussed with other teams but said "there are a lot of interesting things going on." He also noted that if the Heat don't make a move now, they'll have flexibility over the summer, when they'll have several expiring contracts coming off the books.
According to reports, the Heat have had trade discussions with the Suns, Grizzlies, Rockets, Blazers, Bobcats, Kings and Celtics.

Source: http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Baseline/entry/view/55829/heat-owner-were-not-shopping-beasley

He implied they are not actively shopping Beasley that doesnt mean he will not be traded. We aren't shopping Jordan Hill either but if we see a deal we like he is gone.

Realistically they arent getting ANYONE for O'neal's expiring alone. Miami is falling out of the playoffs and could potentially lose Wade for nothing this summer. They are trying to get help for Wade NOW and the only asset they have is Beasley. Wade isnt going to wait around for Michael Beasley to develop.

the comment i made was in reference to JO's lack of trade value... there's a lot of guys around here who somehow think we're going to land some bigtime player next year using Jeffries & Curry's expiring contracts, & that's just not realistic.

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2/15/2010  9:02 PM
TMS wrote:the comment i made was in reference to JO's lack of trade value... there's a lot of guys around here who somehow think we're going to land some bigtime player next year using Jeffries & Curry's expiring contracts, & that's just not realistic.

O ok. Curry and Jefferies will net you guys like Arenas and Baron Davis. Depending on how many teams strike out this summer you might not be able to get guys like a listed for just expirings.

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2/15/2010  9:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/15/2010  9:06 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
TMS wrote:the comment i made was in reference to JO's lack of trade value... there's a lot of guys around here who somehow think we're going to land some bigtime player next year using Jeffries & Curry's expiring contracts, & that's just not realistic.

O ok. Curry and Jefferies will net you guys like Arenas and Baron Davis. Depending on how many teams strike out this summer you might not be able to get guys like a listed for just expirings.

exactly... guys with severe baggage, health issues or underperforming... someone like Elton Brand, or Arenas, but you know Donnie Walsh would never pull the trigger on a deal for someone like that.

oh wait, we're talking about giving up 3 1st round picks for T-Mac.

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2/16/2010  12:55 AM
...this doesn't sound like something a team that is getting amar'e does. sounds like the cavs are nervous about not getting amar'e. they are truly desperate.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4917507

The Cleveland Cavaliers' pursuit of Amare Stoudemire continues, but in case they can't land the Phoenix Suns' All-Star forward, they have begun talks with the Golden State Warriors about Corey Maggette.

Despite their league-high 13-game win streak, the Cavaliers are leaving no stone unturned in attempting to improve their team and bring the city it's first major sports league championship in 46 years.

In addition to speaking to the Washington Wizards regarding Antawn Jamison and the Indiana Pacers regarding Troy Murphy, Cleveland is in discussions with the Warriors about Maggette, according to four sources with knowledge of the talks.

Stoudemire is far and away the Cavaliers first choice, and sources close to Stoudemire said a report Monday that he told Cleveland he doesn't want to play there is false.

Sources say the Cavaliers are willing to send Zydrunas Ilgauskas, J.J. Hickson, a first-round pick and another player (to make the deal work financially) to Phoenix for Stoudemire, but while the Suns mull over their options, Cleveland remains one of the most active teams in the league leading up to Thursday's trade deadline.

The Cavs might need a Plan B, as the Miami Heat are pushing hard to land Stoudemire as well, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein on Monday night.

It is not clear whether the Cavaliers' second-choice is Jamison or Maggette. The discussions with Golden State have centered around Cleveland sending Ilgauskas and his $11.5 million expiring contract to the Warriors for Maggette. Other players, perhaps Cleveland's Danny Green and Golden State's Devean George, would have to be added to make the deal work financially.

As is the case with all their potential trades, the Cavaliers hope their trading partner would waive Ilgauskas so he could re-sign with Cleveland 30 days later. But no such deal can be struck beforehand, per league rules. The Cavaliers' interest in Maggette, who is averaging 20.8 points per game for the Warriors, is somewhat surprising. While the 30-year-old small forward has long been regarded as one of the league's most gifted scorers, he has three years and nearly $31 million left on his contract and has been somewhat injury prone.

Maggette, who has a career scoring average of 16.6 points, has also only made the playoffs one time in his 11-year career with Orlando, the Los Angeles Clippers and the Warriors. That has led some to question Maggette's ability to help a team win, but the same questions dogged Jamal Crawford before he was traded to Atlanta last summer. Crawford, a former teammate of Maggette's in Golden State, has helped the Hawks become an Eastern Conference contender.

LeBron James is aware of Cleveland's interest in Maggette, and sources close to him say he believes he could help the Cavaliers. Maggette can play shooting guard as well as small forward, and while he's not a great outside shooter, the Cavaliers could at times play James and Maggette together on the frontline in a small lineup.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine

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2/16/2010  1:56 AM
It does sound like something a team on the cusp of a championship might do. It also sounds like something a team might do to let its star know that the organization is committed to winning.
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2/16/2010  2:07 AM
CrushAlot wrote:It does sound like something a team on the cusp of a championship might do. It also sounds like something a team might do to let its star know that the organization is committed to winning.

Sounds like Lebron may make one last call to Kerr to finalize the deal since he runs everything in Cleveland

The NBA trade deadline is Thursday, with Cleveland and Miami among the teams most frequently appearing in the usual mid-February speculation. And for the second consecutive year, much of it focuses on Amare Stoudemire of Phoenix.

“I’m aware of the talk just like everybody else,” James said. “I’ve been a part of guys getting traded to our team and getting traded away from our team.”

If Cleveland gets Amare--2010 is done

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